Tell me if this kid is juiced or natural

[silverbackn]

Another thing I want to say is there are a lot of big guys who have never seen an ab in their life on their own body that somehow think its easy to get sub 8% like the guy in this picture and not lose much muscle.

Unless you have gotten that cut before, dont underestimate how hard it is.

Also if you have used AAS, dont even talk about how hard it is to maintain a natural body because you have no idea, its a lot fucking harder.

And finally there are the few people on this board that would qualify as being described as elite athletes, that compete in bodybuilding, have good genetics and looking like this guys isnt hard. Dont be going around insulting people that work just as hard as you that can never attain your level of conditioning, you were blessed by god, other people were blessed in other ways that likley may be superior to you in their own way. So dont go baggin on people unless you are perfect in every way.

Dude are you serious??? I was 5'2 and 100 pounds when I started weight training. I was 190 when I graduated high school at 6'1. I killed myself in the gym for seven years and hit 240 clean. You are still being dismissive and saying that anyone who has a better physique than you has it because of genetics and drugs. You are an idiot. Is that insulting? I'll tell you what is insulting to me is when some clueless jackass who has no idea says I look better than them because of genetics. If you ate like me and trained like me for a week your ass would be handed to you. You have no idea, just keep sayining its drugs and genetics. When was the last time that you puked doing legs? When was the last time you were home cooking chicken on a Friday and Saturday night? I feel sorry for you because your ignorance and weak mind will never let you get anywhere.

 

[abomb]

The guy is a bean pole. I say natural (hopefully).

 

[ProtienFiend]

I personally couldnt be that cut naturally... but other people with better genetics could. This fellow most likely just got back from a night a drinking and lost all his water weight.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I'd like to pick that guy up over my head and throw him through a window.

Hilarious.

 

[MassiveG300]

looks clean to me

 

[Tweakle]

I'm gonna have to say several grams a week and probably a shitload of GH. It's just not possible to carry such a huge amount of muscle at such a low bodyfat naturally.

the only way he could get that without juice would be if he essentially trained like a professional athlete or olympian

no doubt, no doubt.. I'm guessing that guy works arms and chest at least 3 days a week and probably maxes on the bench with 2 big wheels a side. Serious buisness.

 

[pitbullrocco]

His traps and shoulders scream natty to me. I don't think he looks even remotely juiced.

kinda what i was thinking....

genetics

 

[magman1]

I'll be the first to admit my physique is not nearly as cut as him, so excuse the criticism, but I think it's a joke if people say he can't get like that other then juice. He looks like a cross-country runner who does push-ups pull-ups. If you run your ass off and care nothing about mass, that is not too far-fetched to achieve. My training partner is that cut with 20+ pounds and doesn't even do cardio....its amazing what genetics will do to you

 

[gettnlarge01]

It looks like the vote is for natural.

 

[mlong23]

more than likely he is natural. He's not huge so why hide it.