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techniques to get mad when lifting?

dannywild82

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hey all . im new to these boards (found them a few days ago and reading them gives me real inspiration) but ive been lifting for 3 years. im 20 and have just started my first cycle of sust / deca - and in no way pretend to be some kind of expert.

ive notices big gains this last month (got myself up to benching 273lbs for 5, 6), a lot of which are due to the gear, but some i think are because ive been getting myself real angry just before i lift, but still lifting with good form.

today i went in and just couldnt get mad enough, still lifted ok, but only gained 1 rep on benching.

what does everyone here do to get REAL mad?
 
1. Get your partner to slap you really hard across the face
2. Sniff ammonia capsules
 
so swain is your opinion that it is wrong to use gear, or that it is wrong to use aggression to lift? i can respect either of these opinions but it would be helpful to say what part you think is wrong. im here to learn.

in no way did i mean i stomp around the gym making other people uncomfortable. its a small university gym anyway theres never anyone there. all i mean is i find it helpful to put my mind in a state where i feel 'threatened', to try to trick my body into giving me 'more' than it otherwise would.
 
I don't think the key is to get mad, but rather mentally focus on the lift be deep mental stimulation and relaxation. Visualization is the key and eliminating the fear of failing (which terminates the lifters ability to perform at 100 percent)

This technique has worked well for a lot of lifters, but is difficult to achieve.
 
dannywild82 said:
so swain is your opinion that it is wrong to use gear, or that it is wrong to use aggression to lift? i can respect either of these opinions but it would be helpful to say what part you think is wrong. im here to learn.

in no way did i mean i stomp around the gym making other people uncomfortable. its a small university gym anyway theres never anyone there. all i mean is i find it helpful to put my mind in a state where i feel 'threatened', to try to trick my body into giving me 'more' than it otherwise would.

If it helps get the weight up, why the fuck not?:)
 
good point. true. i dont tend to worry about failing.

relaxing and being calm for me has only worked once. never worked after that - dont know why.
i think the anger thing is a way to unlock some of your body's hidden potential. think of how an animal reacts when it is in danger. its the fight or flight response (id like to add that i dont hurt animals :)).
i find it boosts adrenalline and makes me lift a LOT more. didnt realise i'd be 'putting people out' with a post like this.

i am right in thinking this is a forum for discussion and self-improvement, meeting out own goals and finding positive encouragement from peers? your second answer was constructuve, but why couldnt you have said that in the first place?
 
I'm not flaming you, but youve been lifting for only 3 years and already on gear bro? Eh, to each his own.

Anyway, to the topic at hand. Try to concentrate on your lift. Very hard. No distractions. Visualize yourself pushing/pulling whatever the weight may be. Try to visualize yourself in a situation where you NEED to get that weight out of the way.

Keeping your head in the game is key. Anger my get the adrenaline flowing, but it's where your form may lose control, which would be terrible.
 
thanks dude - good post.

hmmm. will give that a go. i dont think my form suffers though. i take the weight down real slow, never bounce or shake, keep my feet on the floor and never arch my back.

i dunno. i reckon i can get up to 130kg (286) in the next few weeks. i can see the reasons why a few people will be shaking their heads at the fact im doin gear so soon.

but honestly deep down, im doing it because im interested in the effects it will have on my body - not out of some hell-bent desire to get big, fast at any cost! (i can see the list of bad side-effects of gear coming, yes i know - yes it will be my fault when it happens - my balls are already like grapes).

i never thought that goin on gear would make me so much stronger, but it has. my training is pretty much the same now as its ever been, but the strength gains have bene incredible. ive gone from benching 242 to 273 in 4 weeks, with more reps, more sets and no forced reps.

ive got another 4 weeks to go. and after that im not gonna touch it for another year at least. its just an experiment for me. perhaps a morbid one in the eyes of many but at the end of the day its my body to use/abuse as i want.
 
im of the opinion that deep concentration is better than "becoming" angry. the spontaneous anger thing never seemed to work for me. i think of it as false motivation. I cant really become mad at something if theres nothing to be mad about. The deep concentration approach has worked wonders for me.
try some visualization. lift that weight in your head a few times. Imgine putting up some big numbers. that usually gets me psyched.
but hey, if getting mad works for you, then it works.
 
I'm not sure what fires me up...

Sometimes it is the fear of failure...other times it is that I hate to not win. Figure that one out...

I also tell myself that someone else is training harder than I am right now with less excuses...

B True
 
spatts said:


We ain't nothin' but mammals.

You and me, baby.......



On the subject though, for me, getting "angry" causes me to lose focus. It's a distraction. I don't even like to lift when I am upset.

My best training sessions are when I feel awake, full and feel good. I feel stronger when I feel good. I get my PR's when my whole mind is properly focused on the lift. When I am aware of each part of my body that needs to push 110% to make the lift.

My .02,
Joker
 
My thoughts on the topic. (see post #18)

spatts said:
Slinky, yes, I've always been like that. I remember standing on the 200 meter line at a meet, and would be yawning and laying on the field until they called my heat. I'd get in the starting blocks, and until my hips raised on the "set," I could've just as easily taken a nap. Calm before the storm explains it well.

I'm a quiet lifter too. I can't do the angry, rage, pacing back and forth, making a scene crap. I understand some people need to do that, or genuinely feel that, but it just looks like a damn production to me. I prefer peace and quiet to angry music. All the hype just distracts me from the clarity I need on the platform.

I associate anger with lack of control...when I hit the platform, I'm in charge.
 
People are different, they respond to different stimulus to get fully aware. Some use controlled anger from internal sources( aka their mind), some are calm and then explode at will, and some just need to be psyched by an external object.

So if you are one of the people who need to be stimulated, just get some person to get you angry just before the lift, and then focus on releasing your anger on the lift. Now that I think about it, it gives a whole different meaning to the vacuum theory.
 
JOKER47 said:
On the subject though, for me, getting "angry" causes me to lose focus. It's a distraction. I don't even like to lift when I am upset.

My best training sessions are when I feel awake, full and feel good. I feel stronger when I feel good. I get my PR's when my whole mind is properly focused on the lift. When I am aware of each part of my body that needs to push 110% to make the lift.

I'm the same. If I am angry or upset at the time I'm lifting, my mind isn't really on the job. I'm sloppy and not really with it.

What I do like to do is filter my anger and pain into my lifting, but not actually be angry and fired up while I'm lifting. Big contradiction? I don't know... Those type of emotions spur me onto being better, bigger, faster, stronger - to improve myself.

Like Joker, my best workouts are when I feel "good". When I'm awake, alert and well fed on top of feeling contented, I am much stronger than I would be in the presence of negative emotions.
 
for me its all about focusing, not getting pissed. when i get pissed, i always lose form even though i can do more reps, but its useless without the form. so i just focus on the task at hand, and conquer it.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
If it helps get the weight up, why the fuck not?:)

Bottom line we are all tryin to get to the same place...some of us just take different roads. Myself I generally lift "pissed". It's what works for me. I don't do it to draw attention to myself...usually when I am "there" I don't notice anything around me but steel. It's not an approach that works for everybody...we all have to find our own way.

For the record, even though I tend to lift angry...the whole slapping someone before they lift...or headbutting the bar until you bleed thing seems really stupid.

Of course I can't ice skate, but that doesn't make it wrong for others to enjoy it.
 
I find that when I'm angry, I lose concentration. Usually, because I'm thinking about what made me angry and not the lift itself. Visualization works great for me, and the more concentrated I am on just the lift, the better it goes. The last full meet I did (I went 9 for 9), I listened to a copy of the "Inches" speech from Any Given Sunday (yeah, I just applied it to powerlifting). That gets me pumped up more than anything else, because in that next 30 seconds, you and the weight are all that matters in the world. It might be a little corny, but that's what works for me. Here is the part of the speech that I always listen to:

"You find out that life is just a game of inches.
So is football.
Because in either game
life or football
the margin for error is so small.
I mean
one half step too late or to early
you don't quite make it.
One half second too slow or too fast
and you don't quite catch it.
The inches we need are everywhere around us.
They are in ever break of the game
every minute, every second.

On this team, we fight for that inch
On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us
to pieces for that inch.
We CLAW with our finger nails for that inch.
Cause we know
when we add up all those inches
that's going to make the fucking difference
between WINNING and LOSING
between LIVING and DYING.

I'll tell you this
in any fight
it is the guy who is willing to die
who is going to win that inch.
And I know
if I am going to have any life anymore
it is because, I am still willing to fight, and die for that inch
because that is what LIVING is.
The six inches in front of your face!"
 
thats a wicked speech. any more good ones? dont anyone even mention independance day.

the one from ghost comes to mind (explode like a reactor!). not so much a speech but a good sample nontheless.
 
dannywild82 said:
hey all . im new to these boards (found them a few days ago and reading them gives me real inspiration) but ive been lifting for 3 years. im 20 and have just started my first cycle of sust / deca - and in no way pretend to be some kind of expert.

ive notices big gains this last month (got myself up to benching 273lbs for 5, 6), a lot of which are due to the gear, but some i think are because ive been getting myself real angry just before i lift, but still lifting with good form.

today i went in and just couldnt get mad enough, still lifted ok, but only gained 1 rep on benching.

what does everyone here do to get REAL mad?

Line up to use the bench behind a trio of it's-all-you upright rowing fratboys. Make you made soon enough!

Then wait for someone to finish their concentration curls in the power rack before your squats.
 
Re: Re: techniques to get mad when lifting?

circusgirl said:


Line up to use the bench behind a trio of it's-all-you upright rowing fratboys. Make you made soon enough!

Then wait for someone to finish their concentration curls in the power rack before your squats.

that stuff just makes my want to cry, then go buy my own power rack
 
Zander1983 said:

What I do like to do is filter my anger and pain into my lifting, but not actually be angry and fired up while I'm lifting.

That's a good point. There can be a difference between "fired up" and "angry".

I get fired up, but I am not pissed.



Joker
 
louden_swain said:
I don't think the key is to get mad, but rather mentally focus on the lift be deep mental stimulation and relaxation. Visualization is the key and eliminating the fear of failing (which terminates the lifters ability to perform at 100 percent)

This technique has worked well for a lot of lifters, but is difficult to achieve.

I think louden was pretty on with this.


I've read back through Science and Practice, and Zatsiorsky cautions against doin lifts that cause emotional stress, saying to use them sparingly. I also read in a John Smith article cautioning against the same thing.

That being said, I now try to approach the weights, not relaxed, because i can't be too relaxed while lifting; but i approach them calm with a small bit of anger/fire to keep me goin.


heres the article by john smith for those who are interested.

Subject: TOPIC 12: INTENSITY
intensity one thing i have noticed over the years is that some lifters need much more emotional arousal to lift top weights than others. i have also noticed that it is the emotional arousal itself, not the lifts, that brings on fatigue, and possibly overtraining. consider this. in lifters who can lift 95-100% weights without getting "psyched up", there is usually the ability to lift these top weights very often, sometimes daily, without undue fatigue. however, with lifters who need considerable emotional arousal to lift these weights, they CANNOT be lifted often, certainly not more than once a week. this obviously leads one to the conclusion that the emotional arousal itself, not the weights lifted, is the mechanism leading to fatigue. before anyone flys off the handle, ill admit that one can overtrain without getting psyched up if they try, and the physical stress of lifting obviously plays a part, i am only saying that the EMOTIONAL arousal plays a bigger part than most would consider. now, i consider it a truism that it is not sensible to let your ability to lift with or without emotional arousal determine your lifting frequency or volume. in other words, psyching yourself out of your mind every time you squat to get your best possible poundage, then simply accepting the fact that you can only squat once every 10 days is not sensible. personally, i limit pssyching up in training. true, i support a businesslike atmosphere, and yell and scream at liftes daily. but i DO NOT let lifters pace for 3 minutes working themselves into a frenzy before a lift. just go up to the bar and lift it is in my opinion the best training strategy. what does this have to do with all of you? well i know that some of you feel unable to train very often. i know that "overtraining", loss of motivation, etc, are subjects discussed somewhat regularly on this board and by lifters everywhere. my suggestion if you have experienced this or are experiencing it, is to not only look at your workouts, but look at your attitudes and arousal during your workouts. try to do 2 or 3 weeks of training where you DO NOT psych yourself up prior to sets. you may find several things. you might find that you just plain feel better out of the gym, not so "drained" and tired as usuall. you might find that you are able to handle more training volume. and finally, you will almost surely find that in time you will increase your ability to lift heavy weithts without psyching yourself up, it is in fact a learned ability. and when this happens, youll find you have the best of both worlds, youll be lifting as heavy as possible, without draining yourself emoutionally. youll feel better, youll lift better and be albe to lift more and more often... and youll find that your mental state in everyday life is just plain better. and finally, PLAN your all out, crazy, psyche up and frothing at the mouth workouts. itll be a pleasant change of pace every couple of weeks! itll be something to look forward to, not just the daily grind.

http://www.anabolicscience.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9183
 
spatts said:
My thoughts on the topic. (see post #18)



I associate anger with lack of control...when I hit the platform, I'm in charge.

Ditto.

If I do something out of anger... I lost control.

I lift as an exercise in self control.

One person who I respect enormously conquered being a total chicken... to the point she was able to jump out of an airplane parachuting. (It terrifed her to even consider it at one point.) I asked her what she attributed gaining control of her fear to and she said, "My bench press program." She had disicplined herself to lift. She made herself work with heavier weights. She made that heavy one rep max go up with focus, determination, and courage. That was the same control that let her step out of an airplane at 20,000 feet.
 
when i hit the gym im in a state of arousal(get your mind outta the gutter), but not anger. does that make sense? I feel alert, focused, blood pumping, but yet still in control. This is my optimal training mindset..i actually have trained myself to reach this, dont always get there but when i do watch out!!
 
bigstve12 said:
when i hit the gym im in a state of arousal(get your mind outta the gutter), but not anger. does that make sense? I feel alert, focused, blood pumping, but yet still in control. This is my optimal training mindset..i actually have trained myself to reach this, dont always get there but when i do watch out!!

Arousal is the right word. Makes perfect sense. When I studied psychology is was a key scientific term...
 
nothing like a good rush...

i take both hands and slap myself in the face as hard as i can a couple of x's. the rush will take over so fast that i cannot feel the pain. my cheeks will go temporarily red and i usually end up quickly addn a few lbs cus i so pumpd('pumpd', not mad!!!) 2 my calculation i can lift about 5-10% more on max lifts. 1 problem is the rush wears off after the 1st set and ur left with leggn sets after the first. + iv found if u try 2 slap again its much less effective. i find its only good 4 max lifts and not a regular routine,.. it really tires u out...
 
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