var gives a hard chisled look with min muscle gains, Tbol beats var in my book ,increase in size mad strength gains ,it also promotes a hard ripped look-what more could you ask for
gained 18 lbs of test @ 500mg/wk for 10 weeks...i did that by around week 8 and then changed my diet to just maintain, didn't want to gain anymore...that was enough for a first cycle, plus i didn't want to take a chance on hurting my tendons by growing too fast and too much at once