Targeting Cycles for Summer (Babe Factor)

[EPROM]

Okay, I'm currently working with HGH (4iu daily) and plan on continuing for at least 12 months. After countless hours of research here on EF I have a fairly good "Noob Cycle" already planned out.

Noob's Cycle:
HGH - 4iu daily
Dbol - 50mg 4 to 6 weeks (sides dependent)
Test-E - 250mg bi-weekly
AI = Arimidex
SERMS = Nova/Clomid
Extra PCT - Test Recovery Stack PP

All gear and PCT is ready and waiting. I am 47 years old, operating on barrowed time and age has taken its toll. I want to get the highest "Babe Factor" out of my cycle, so here are my questions:

(1) I want to look my best by Spring time. Is it better to start a 12 week cycle on December 1st and end it late February? This would allow 3 months to be off and then maybe hit another cycle starting May 1st. This would have my second "cutting" cycle during the summer months and I fear the sides (acne, hair loss, bloating) are a negatives in the "Babe factor" arena.

(2) Do I NOT want to be cycling in the middle of the bikini season? Do I want to be cleaning myself up naturally after a bulking cycle and avoid the sides?

(3) Should I hold off and do my first cycle starting March 1st. and end in late May instead? I then do a second cycle in maybe September? Would me using HGH right now have any say for using this timing?

Mainly, I want to be at my VERY BEST physically this coming summer. When you hit your late 40's you'll understand. You don't have too many opportunities to screw up and try again, ya know?

Thanks in Advance,
Birdman

 

[HAYEZ]

I would start now and get it over with...you trying to bulk or cut?
250 bi weekly you mean 125 a week? or 250 shot twice week for 500? confused me how you have it laid out.
test e and dbol really isnt going to do much but add some size to you...

 

[halfcenturian]

Eat and lift hard. That cycle shows you need some more AAS education.

 

[EPROM]

250mg x2 or 500mg per week.

Regarding test/dbol, since I'm a Noob I want to keep it simple so I can easily identify any problems along the way. ...Do you think I should toss something else into the mix?

Bird

 

[HAYEZ]

what are your goals? cut or bulk?

 

[EPROM]

Eat and lift hard. That cycle shows you need some more AAS education.

Geeze, Half

I've read probably 50 posts from well-respected EFers who say that a Noob should do a basic cycle with test and "maybe" add in some Dbol. Nelson M would probably have my ass for adding in anything else.

What is wrong with this very basic cycle? What would you say needs to be changed?

Birdman

 

[deezy1225]

if u want a summer cycle, thats not really it, unless u want to look like a balloon

id go with something more along the lines of 300-400 mg of test e or c [ idealy prop if u dont mind sticking urself] and 40-50 mg of anavar if u want this "babe factor"

 

[EPROM]

what are your goals? cut or bulk?

Bulk mainly (at least for my first cycle). At 47 I'm not sporting very much firepower in the weight department.

Birdman

 

[EPROM]

if u want a summer cycle, thats not really it, unless u want to look like a balloon

id go with something more along the lines of 300-400 mg of test e or c [ idealy prop if u dont mind sticking urself] and 40-50 mg of anavar if u want this "babe factor"

The Dbol/Test cycle I have in the original post is for anytime between now and March 1st. I'm looking for what will get me there BY summertime. If I need to do two cycles and target the second one for summer, then I can do that ....but my FIRST cycle could start tomorrow if I wanted to.

Birdman

 

[HAYEZ]

i would do this then
start now
1-12 test e 500mg
1-6 50mg dbol

cycle 2 cutter i would prefer tren but since ur age and only 2nd cycle i would avoid it

test prop 150 eod 1-12
masteron 150 eod 1-12
var 50mg ed 1-6
could poss even run it longer to extend thru all of summer..im sure you dont want a non functioning cock during pct if your goal is purely girls...

 

[EPROM]

i would do this then
start now
1-12 test e 500mg
1-6 50mg dbol

cycle 2 cutter i would prefer tren but since ur age and only 2nd cycle i would avoid it

test prop 150 eod 1-12
masteron 150 eod 1-12
var 50mg ed 1-6

Noted! Can I swap out Test-E for the prop? I have an excess supply of Test-E. I know the timing is different, but money is an issue.

Thanks!
Birdman

 

[smtimelevi]

when saying bi-weekly you confused some folk. You ment twice weekly. You may be able to get away with just 250mg per week for 12 weeks. Get some HGC for pct especially at your age( no offense) recovrey is critical to keep gains. 50mg is alot of dbol.

Heres what I recomend

DBOL 30mg per day weeks 1-4
testE or C 250mg per week 1-12

dont't use the ai if you dont have to. If the cycle isnt as effective as you want it to be then there could be a few things wrong. Your lifestyle is wrong, meaning diet, rest, recreational activities, etc... or it just could be that it wasnt enough juice, but start low then re-acess the situation after your cycle and pct are over with. More isnt always better, sometimes it just makes it harder to recover. Dont go making the silly more is better judgement in week 3 when the ester hasnt fully kicked yet, you got the dbol in there and that stuff is amazing. Just beware the back pumps!

As for the beef up over the winter approach I think it's a good practice. Use hcg either during cycle or with pct. If doing higher doses in pct an AI may be nessesary. By the time your cycle is over and pct is done all the bloat will be gone and your shirt will be ready to come off for the bitches.

Then maybe a cutting cycle for the late spring/ early summer could be in order onece recovrey is complete. Someting non-aromatizing or less aromatizing. Test p and primo or var, + cardio and you will be beating the women off of you.

Good luck to you sir in your endeavor.

 

[HAYEZ]

Noted! Can I swap out Test-E for the prop? I have an excess supply of Test-E. I know the timing is different, but money is an issue.

Thanks!
Birdman

i wouldnt if you plan to cut... with the prop and masteron you shouldnt need an ai and you will stay lean...test e will be a diff story


ill stand by my standard first cycle 500mg test dose though..you want to bulk and put on size its it...

 

[EPROM]

when saying bi-weekly you confused some folk. You ment twice weekly. You may be able to get away with just 250mg per week for 12 weeks. Get some HGC for pct especially at your age( no offense) recovrey is critical to keep gains. 50mg is alot of dbol.

Noted! I DO have hCG on hand (about 30,000iu's worth) that I forgot to mention. Yes! I want my balls to be happy!! And yes, I did mean 500mg per week (250mg 2x per week).

Heres what I recomend

DBOL 30mg per day weeks 1-4
testE or C 250mg per week 1-12

dont't use the ai if you dont have to. If the cycle isnt as effective as you want it to be then there could be a few things wrong. Your lifestyle is wrong, meaning diet, rest, recreational activities, etc... or it just could be that it wasnt enough juice, but start low then re-acess the situation after your cycle and pct are over with. More isnt always better, sometimes it just makes it harder to recover. Dont go making the silly more is better judgement in week 3 when the ester hasnt fully kicked yet, you got the dbol in there and that stuff is amazing. Just beware the back pumps!

I did a brief sample session with some Thai Dbol and 50mg didn't do much at all. Turns out it is either severly underdosed or bunk. I have new Dbol and can start at a lower dose.

By the time your cycle is over and pct is done all the bloat will be gone and your shirt will be ready to come off for the bitches.

That would be just fine with me!

Then maybe a cutting cycle for the late spring/ early summer could be in order onece recovrey is complete. Someting non-aromatizing or less aromatizing. Test p and primo or var, + cardio and you will be beating the women off of you.

Good luck to you sir in your endeavor.

HAYEZ has mentioned using the prop and Masteron. I'll check out the primo and var factor. ...I fear the hairloss on the Masteron. Every strand is important at 47!

Thank you VERY much!
Birdman

 

[smtimelevi]

50mg is definatly a noticable dose, it must have been fake.

 

[beach_bum_dude]

50mg is definatly a noticable dose, it WAS fake.

fixed

 

[the elite addict]

i would do this then
start now
1-12 test e 500mg
1-6 50mg dbol

cycle 2 cutter i would prefer tren but since ur age and only 2nd cycle i would avoid it

test prop 150 eod 1-12
masteron 150 eod 1-12
var 50mg ed 1-6
could poss even run it longer to extend thru all of summer..im sure you dont want a non functioning cock during pct if your goal is purely girls...

+1

 

[702daswoll1]

He could get away with running a little less Dbol fellas. Its his first cycle!

LMFAO at "Babe Factor".... Call it geting laid, pulling pussy, bedroom body ANYTHING but "babe Factor"..

Good luck though for real..

 

[EZ_E]

"Babe factor" is the wrong reason to cycle.

 

[79steeler]

i would do this then
start now
1-12 test e 500mg
1-6 50mg dbol

cycle 2 cutter i would prefer tren but since ur age and only 2nd cycle i would avoid it

test prop 150 eod 1-12
masteron 150 eod 1-12
var 50mg ed 1-6
could poss even run it longer to extend thru all of summer..im sure you dont want a non functioning cock during pct if your goal is purely girls...

+1 I like this idea!

 

[HAYEZ]

Yes, I agree ...and have added HAYEZ's info into my Cycle Planner. My biggest concern is that Masteron is a DHT derivative and I am prone to hair loss (how's that for "proper AAS education" Mr. HalfCenturian?). I'm growing my hair out into a pony tail and shedding would make me look kinda like Willie Nelson.

Masteron was on my cutting list, so I did a small cycle test with some Monsterdrol which kinda mimics a methylateed verson of masteron ...and out came the hair! I could start eating my propecia again, ....but that is some nasty shit right there, buddy!

Birdman

shitty bro...that suxs...masteron i loved with no sides at all

 

[galaxy]

Id probably just stay on 250mgs a week straight through and every 2 months use fina and winny for 4 -6 weeks and then repeat this again towards summer and use some masteron. Get some proviron and run 50mgs ed as long as you can also. Fuck it, if thats the attitude you have then go for it. You should do awesome.

Mind you as long as your blood work is fine.

 

[socalmuscle]

still think your going about this in the wrong way my friend.

No one want to be told that they are wrong and or not a success at whatever there endeavors. I agree with HALF in the sense that if at your age/hieght/lbs your not doing something right. By 'right" I do mean diet most likely as this is where 90% of BB and fellow EFer's fail.

Try and take a step back, we have a good family here on EF. We truly want to help, so let us.

post up what you ate yesterday EXACTLY, and Ill see what input I can share that will help you... on or off a cycle

-socal

 

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Thank you.

 

[needtogetaas]

Okay, I'm currently working with HGH (4iu daily) and plan on continuing for at least 12 months. After countless hours of research here on EF I have a fairly good "Noob Cycle" already planned out.

Noob's Cycle:
HGH - 4iu daily
Dbol - 50mg 4 to 6 weeks (sides dependent)
Test-E - 250mg bi-weekly
AI = Arimidex
SERMS = Nova/Clomid
Extra PCT - Test Recovery Stack PP

All gear and PCT is ready and waiting. I am 47 years old, operating on barrowed time and age has taken its toll. I want to get the highest "Babe Factor" out of my cycle, so here are my questions:

(1) I want to look my best by Spring time. Is it better to start a 12 week cycle on December 1st and end it late February? This would allow 3 months to be off and then maybe hit another cycle starting May 1st. This would have my second "cutting" cycle during the summer months and I fear the sides (acne, hair loss, bloating) are a negatives in the "Babe factor" arena.

(2) Do I NOT want to be cycling in the middle of the bikini season? Do I want to be cleaning myself up naturally after a bulking cycle and avoid the sides?

(3) Should I hold off and do my first cycle starting March 1st. and end in late May instead? I then do a second cycle in maybe September? Would me using HGH right now have any say for using this timing?

Mainly, I want to be at my VERY BEST physically this coming summer. When you hit your late 40's you'll understand. You don't have too many opportunities to screw up and try again, ya know?

Thanks in Advance,
Birdman

And that is exactly what that cycle looks like!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cuts82]

Use the money you were gonna spend for the cycle and take it and go and get some blue chip hookers, 12months worth of growth hormone would equate to quite a few happy endings!
also at 47 with a ponytail there is only so much you can do to increase the 'babe factor',
good luck in your endevour !

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok guys lets be cool please.

 

[HAYEZ]

Use the money you were gonna spend for the cycle and take it and go and get some blue chip hookers, 12months worth of growth hormone would equate to quite a few happy endings!
also at 47 with a ponytail there is only so much you can do to increase the 'babe factor',
good luck in your endevour !

got to disagree with the hair comment... i got hair past my shoulders and get nothing but compliments

 

[cuts82]

got to disagree with the hair comment... i got hair past my shoulders and get nothing but compliments

Yeah i guess, fabio got some mad ass in his day and he had a full mane. i stand corrected