tapering down (roid calculator)

[skippy]

I've been messing around with the roid calculator and tapering down seems to be the best way to go, even if you have to add an extra 2 weeks..... to avoid the steep drop in test levels. Anyone taper??

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

I was thinking the same thing after i looked at that. But everyone says tapering is useless..however i'm thinking of adding an extra 2 weeks into my cycle to taper.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

I usually taper my cycle. It's worked well so far so I'm not going to change anything. Skippy can you post a link to that roid calculator?

Thanks

 

[Riker29]

Tapering is worthless.

It is based on a false assumption, that somehow the taper lets your body start to naturally start producing Test again. It won't.

If you use the roid calculator, the level of Test in your system must get below like about 100 or so before your body STARTS the processes to produce Test natuirally.

Anything above that, whether its 200, 500, or 1000, will have the same effect - your body sees a boatload of Test around and therefore the natural processes are shut down.


There may be one benefit to not allowing for a very quick downfall of the artifically high Test levels.

From seeing what happens to me, and some others, I am starting to think that on e of the things which cause acne poroblems, is not as much the LEVEL of Test, but more so the rapoid CHANGE in Test levels. Whether going up or down, fast shifts in hormone levels can throw your body off in some cases. So there MAY be a benefit here.

But, the assumption that a longer-slower taper somehow lets your body start producing Test more easily is not really based on anything factual.

At least as far as I know.

 

[The Man Child]

Tapering is important if you don't have any anti-e's or clomid. IT WILL help you prevent rapid muscle loss if you're without these supplements.

But...........

If you have the anti-e's etc...then tapering is pointless.

 

[Raffaz]

Tapering is useless with anti-es or none. It wont make any difference, because you dont start using your anti-es until your hormone levels have dropped.

 

[skippy]

Yes, I agree that anti-e's are useless until hormone levels have dropped. However this time I WILL taper a few weeks after the cycle to avoid such as abrupt drop in test, then use anti-e's.....
Enig, here's a link to the roid calculator: http://www.come.to/roidcalc

 

[8pack]

worked well for me the last two cycles. Doon the same thing this cycle.

 

[Andy13]

what are you using?

I personally have not checked out the 'roid calculator.' Calculating halflives and hormone levels is fairly straight forward...

If you used 500mg/week of a steroid with half life of 7 days, after seven weeks, you will acumulated 996.094mg of steroid remaining, esterified in your system.

Three weeks after your last shot, 124.512mg will remain in your system, again, still in ester form.

I'm not argueing if a taper is beneficial or not, but it seems to me that these injectables taper themselves.

Andy

 

[skippy]

yes they do taper themselves, but at a rapid rate of decline....tapering would simply lessen the degree of decline, therefore lessening the effects of a quick drop in test....

 

[Andy13]

How do you see a quick drop in test? If you used 500mg/week for seven weeks and then stopped cold turkey, it would take you well over a month to return to basline. Do you think a month of gradual decline is abrupt?

 

[skippy]

I'm not smart enough to figure all that shit in my head....but if you go the roid calculator you will see how abrupt the drop is between 800 straight for 10 weeks, compared to 800 for 10 weeks then 600 wk 11, 400 wk12, maybe even 200 week13....makes sense to me...Thanks for your opinion though, It will make me think more about it....I'll be experimenting anyway...."to each his own"

 

[enzymus]

HCG is a lot easier and less wasteful of a good potent test. I will do 5000 iu's of HCG after a cycle and I never use clomid I think it sucks..... I seem to be fine but I've never eceeded 500mg a week for more than 10 weeks. 2 shots of HCG 5000 IU's will be enough to recover.