Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below So how do you do it? For example, if a cycle consists of dbol 25mg, prop 100mg eod, tren 100mgeod, and you want to add winny or masteron, would you lower the prop and tren a little say, to 75mg eod? I want to try different compounds but cant find literature on how to stack properly, not just adding more gear.
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BBBBig Phenom
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You need to keep the doses for each compound at an EFFECTIVE dose or they will not work.
swordfish151
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derailed said:
Its really not that complicated bro...for instance im on tren, prop, eq winny...Tren is done ED and prop EOD, EQ is Mon/thurs and WInny (tabs) are done ED...so basically monday looks like 1/2cc of tren, 1cc of prop and 1cc of eq all in one pin...that gives your 2 1/2cc the tab is done orally so you dont have to worry about it...just pop it in the mouth and chase it with water..
BBBBig Phenom
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swordfish151 said:
good work
athlete.03
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BBBBig Phenom said:
Yes, but I think he may be posting a good question: can the same class of AAS be added up using relatively simple addition. For instance test e and prop (class I) can be added together as well as dbol and winny (class II) but class I's and II's should be at an effective dose to get significant results.
Am I right on this?
Yes you can plan by class but it's truly overthinking the cycle. Most people need to experiment on themselves because we all react differently to various AS. A guy who uses 1000mg/wk of test normally wants to add tren and winny. He can probably do much better sidewise if he lowers the test to 300mg/wk when he adds his 525mg/wk of tren and 50mg/day of winny. But he could just take it all.
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Shooting tren ed is not a problem. I actually like it better because you inject less in one spot at a time. Anyway, athlete.03 clearified my question. People that are taking 500mg test e add tren to the cycle and they are surprised that it is more effective, well duh, you are taking a larger totally amount of gear so no wonder it works better. So do I look for the total amount of each class for the effective dose or do I look for each indivudual drugs's effective amount. I know when doctors prescribe water pills, by combining different classes of drugs they can prescribe a smaller dose of each. The total amount would be similar as with using one drug but the side effects are much lower when taking more but smaller doses. The only problem you is about drug interactions.
So instead of taking 1000 test, you would take 333 test, 333 tren, and 333 masteron. You will less sides than taking the 1000 test but how would this stack compare to using 1000 mg test.
So instead of taking 1000 test, you would take 333 test, 333 tren, and 333 masteron. You will less sides than taking the 1000 test but how would this stack compare to using 1000 mg test.
athlete.03
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indy69camaro said:I remember our last conversation re: tren for 20 weeks. I will stick with the 6 weeks and out method
On second thought maybe I won't do tren...
gettnlarge01
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Adjust the dose by the drug. If you"re running gear that you"ve never used before you need to start low on all and adjust up.I would keep the dosage at the level that you know is effective for you and when adding a new compound start it at the low side of what is recommended.I wouldn"t worry about total mg"s in week because some gear are more powerful than others.
mrplunkey
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Yes and no...athlete.03 said:
You could add mg's of test prop and test eth (or any test for that matter, test is test). If you wanted to be technically "pure" you'd adjust for the slightly different weights of the testosterone esters but screw-that (it's beyond the scope of this thread). Just add 'em up.
You can't really add dbol and winny. While its good to keep an eye on the total amount of gear you are using, 40 mgs/day of winny + 40 mgs/day of dbol doesn't really "equal" 80 mg's of either.
You could probably add NPP and Deca since the esters used are the only real difference. Again tho, you might want to adjust for the molecular weight differences if you really want to be anal.
So to answer your question about adding-up gear: yes... kinda
It's always good to keep your eye on your total dose.
You can add-up classes of drugs that differ only by the ester used to deliver it.
Adding-up fundamentally different drugs (i.e. tren and test) is "good to know" but doesn't have the same significance as adding-up to similar drugs (i.e. test prop and test eth).
HTH
mrplunkey
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Instead of looking at a total numerical amount of gear, you may be better served by looking for a standard "recipe". For example, my HRT doc has one like this:derailed said:
10 weeker
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Test 250 mg/week
Deca 450 mg/week
Winny 50 mg EoD
They do that because some compounds compliment each other (test offsets deca sides, winny offsets deca sides as well).
Im asking all these questions because its hard to find studies on different combinations/ doses, protocol. After all, anyone that uses gear for body building is really being a guinea pig for phase 4 studies.
Ive been readinng that some gear like winny causes a 30% decrease in SHBG and proviron/ masteron bind really well to SHBG taking up space causing whatever was attached to free up. In theroy, you could take less test w/ the same results but w/ less side effects. Everyone says synergy or stack this with that... all Im doing is asking why. I guess thats a problem when you are in a science field.
Ive been readinng that some gear like winny causes a 30% decrease in SHBG and proviron/ masteron bind really well to SHBG taking up space causing whatever was attached to free up. In theroy, you could take less test w/ the same results but w/ less side effects. Everyone says synergy or stack this with that... all Im doing is asking why. I guess thats a problem when you are in a science field.
mrplunkey
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You are definately on the right track. Look around and find the "standard" stacks.derailed said:
For your first cycle, do test and test alone. There are a number of reasons why.
Then you can look at things like:
Test/Dbol
Test/Winny
Test/Deca/Winny
Test/EQ/Anavar
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And that's how they are designed btw... trying to match and offset side effects and such.
