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redsamurai
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only taking the deca to offset joint problems caused by the var.....is 300mg's a week of deca enough to satisfy this requirement?
taking deca with var....
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redsamurai
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well I can tell you the var has been making me unreasonably masturbatorial.......I actually could use a bit of downtime from mr. winky, he's been taking up my time ALOT recently. What if I started some HCG in a couple weeks?
lol...better knock on some Wood...hehehe.
Not sure how ya cycle your AAS, but I usually only take Hcg in the middle of my cycles for 7-10 days @ 1,000iu/d and then at the end of my cycle @ 500-1,000iu for 14-20 days right before I start my PCT of Clomid + AI.
If I stay on AAS without coming off, then I usually will hit up Hcg @1,000iu/d for 7-10 days.
I'd add in a dopaminergic like Selegiline, Cabergoline, or Bromocriptine for progestin sides. They may help in sex drive as well.
You could always throw in Proviron if it is an option for ya.
Some of us also use to add Clomid in with our cycles @ 50mg EOD. Not sure how you respond to clomid, but that's an option as well too. You could probably get away with 25mg EOD....
BMJ
Not sure how ya cycle your AAS, but I usually only take Hcg in the middle of my cycles for 7-10 days @ 1,000iu/d and then at the end of my cycle @ 500-1,000iu for 14-20 days right before I start my PCT of Clomid + AI.
If I stay on AAS without coming off, then I usually will hit up Hcg @1,000iu/d for 7-10 days.
I'd add in a dopaminergic like Selegiline, Cabergoline, or Bromocriptine for progestin sides. They may help in sex drive as well.
You could always throw in Proviron if it is an option for ya.
Some of us also use to add Clomid in with our cycles @ 50mg EOD. Not sure how you respond to clomid, but that's an option as well too. You could probably get away with 25mg EOD....
BMJ
turbogreek
Registered User
i used 350mg/wk of NPP with 100mg/day var for 7 weeks...had great gaind and kept 95% of my size. i didn't have any issues between the sheets either.
what's you cycle history bro? if you are a beginner to AAS...then i would say yes...300mg is good. i used deca for my first cycle @300mg/week and had great gains. though i gotta say it wouldn't hurt to add at least 250mg/week with it. you'll be a lot more happy.
that's my advise.
what's you cycle history bro? if you are a beginner to AAS...then i would say yes...300mg is good. i used deca for my first cycle @300mg/week and had great gains. though i gotta say it wouldn't hurt to add at least 250mg/week with it. you'll be a lot more happy.
that's my advise.
liquidmuscle
Well-known member
like they mentioned...test would be better to add in there even if its low dose(200-400mgs) i also recomend dostinex w/deca. i use it everytime and its a lifesaver
geoboy
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redsamurai said:
Just a wild potshot but:
1) var shouldnt hurt ur joints
2) var shouldnt make u horny or increase potency
3) BUT WINNY WILL DO BOTH.
if ur doing powder I'd send some for testing.
On ur question of var with deca, assuming their both real, if ur using the deca for some joint lube, I guess its ok, but if u or another reader is using the deca for mass, and the var for lets say strength, the var is sort of counterproductive because some/much of the deca thickness and marbled mass that people speak of is intramuscular fat accumulation (good thing). var is exceptional at reducing visceral fat so a working theory is that it will shread some/much of the intramuscular deca fat.
I notice that when I used var to cut after a test/deca cycle, I seemed to lose WAY more size and thickness than if I either didnt use the var or had come off a non-deca mass cycle.
redsamurai
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geoboy said:
This is my first time using var....but I've read for YEARS that var was hard on the joints. Also, "some" guys have reported an increase in sex drive with var...at least initially.
Cauliflower Ear
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fuck bro....var is never hard on mine....i think you got winny
fugetaboutit
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i'd bump up the deca to 350 or 400mg if you can. Dostinex a must, specially if you're not going to run any test. it may increase your sex drive. ag-guys have it.
fugetaboutit
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ku1721 said:
40mg should be plenty ok with your cycle. Start with that. If you're not satisfied, increase dosage.
bmcadoo44
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var 50mg e/d week 1-4, week 5-6 75mg e/d
proviron 50mg e/d week 1-6
pct: clomid 50mg e/d for 4 weeks
im hopin to cut some body fat and gain 10-15 pounds.
My metabolism isnt that high and i can gain weight very easily but my adderall keeps me from gaining the weight.
stats 22 years old 6ft 195 12%. I hopefully want to be down to 9%bf and be atleaste 205lbs lean after this is done.
I train 5-6 days a week, each muscle twice a week.
My calorie intake is around 4000 a day and my diet is in check.
do you guys think my expectations are possible.
please critique if needed.
proviron 50mg e/d week 1-6
pct: clomid 50mg e/d for 4 weeks
im hopin to cut some body fat and gain 10-15 pounds.
My metabolism isnt that high and i can gain weight very easily but my adderall keeps me from gaining the weight.
stats 22 years old 6ft 195 12%. I hopefully want to be down to 9%bf and be atleaste 205lbs lean after this is done.
I train 5-6 days a week, each muscle twice a week.
My calorie intake is around 4000 a day and my diet is in check.
do you guys think my expectations are possible.
please critique if needed.
fugetaboutit
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bmcadoo44 said:
Ok. There was no mention of EQ here. It looked like just var.
Var ain't gonna do it 10-15lbs of lean muscle alone. Eq will help you retain muscle mass , but you can't diet down and still gain 10-15 lbs of muscle. Besides, if you're trying to lose fat, you need to consume less than 4000 cal.
To hopefully gain 10lbs of muscle while cutting, you need to run IMO at least a 12 week cycle. Because with your expectations, it's gotta be slow and steady.
