T-400

[JKurz1]

I got 20cc of T-400 and 10cc of QV prop....would it be okay (decent gains) if I use those two on there own (I know, pain..pain...pain)? Then I have some EQ and winny I was going to use together in a few months.....what do you guys think? I've done a few small cycles here and there...nothing major....27....6'3...190........8-9%bf....suggestions?

 

[stonecold54]

If you can stand using both of them go for it. Just make sure you are using at least 8 injection sites to give a few weeks in between the shots. Results will depend on nutrition and training as well as other factos. But those are good products so you will gain from them. What is your proposed cycle?

 

[cartoonman]

use the eq to dilte the test 400, works great and not pain. dont believe me try t400 sometime by itself and you will see

 

[stonecold54]

I will agree that the eq cuts the pain down. I shot with and without and there is definelty a nice difference in pain. I even did a 1:1 ratio of t400 with sterile oil and THEN i mixed it with the eq.

 

[ANOINTED]

what mgs do u intend to do per week of each..

i would drop the prop and add the eq or get some deca

 

[JKurz1]

not sure, but my source got shut down so I'm left in the cold.....can't get anything else and I really don't know how I will in the future...so, if possible, I'd like to make it into two cycles....t400 and prop for 1 and eq/winny in the other.........suggestions?

 

[stonecold54]

my suggestion would be to just run 400 mg of t400 for 12 weeks. leave out the prop. then in your second cylce use the rest of the t400 and the prop and add in the eq and winny.

 

[JKurz1]

Stone....think I'll see some decent results?

 

[stonecold54]

what were your previous cycles like?
as I said in my first post it depends on your nutrition and training.
get everything tuned it and you should see results. test by itself is an awesome cycle.

 

[JKurz1]

My previous cycle was 500mg/week of sus250 for 10 weeks with 300mg of deca for weeks 1-8..........nothing major. Here's my current diet. i realize it's prob. low on the carbs and calories, which is why I'm probably not getting the results I'd like.......it's just that I'm pretty lean and have that damn fear of getting "chubby" when on........I'm 6'2.5, 190...6-7% and been training for a solid 6 years...

500 1/2 hour of cardio/abs, etc.
6:30 1/2 cup of steel cut w/ a half od scoop pro.
1.5 cups of egg whites/beaters, ff cheese, tomatoes, mushrooms...omlette

930 myoplex w/ water and 1/2 cup of skim milk

12:30 HUGE salad (peppers, onions, brocolli, cauli, etc.)
6-7 oz of chicken/tuna/turkey
cup+ grren beans, brussel sprouts,

4:00 TRAIN - 5-6 days/week

5:30 - Scoop protein powder, w/ creatine, gluatamine, glucose/gatorade

6:30 - LARGE plate of steamed veggies (asparaghus, peppers, green beans, etc.)
4-5oz of fish/chicken/turkey
small salad w/ 1/2 cup ff cottage cheese

9:30 LARGE frosted protein shake with a little skim milk and pasturized egg whites, ice
3-4 large handfuls of roasted peanuts
some veggies w/ ff ranch/dill dip

10:00 BED


Little Help??????? Please don't say dump the last meal....it's my one thing I look forward to...LOL

 

[JKurz1]

Lil' Help? My energy levels are pretty decent, which is odd given the lack of carbs....guess it's the coffee keeping me going........

thinking about 400mg weeks 1-10

then take 4-6 off and come mid-march hit a decent cycle with 400mg of T400 weeks 1-10, EQ at 300mg weeks 1-8 and then hammer home the winny at 50mg EOD weeks 8-12.......any thoughts?

 

[DaddyX]

u dont have enough prop. like already said mix the eq with the t-400 this time around, get some more prop and use that with the winny later

 

[Stillgoing]

Bro, your probably going to need to up the calories to make additional muscle gains. While I didn't count it all up, it looks like most of your protein comes from shakes, you don't take in a lot of fat and your carbs are pretty low. Decent cutting diet, but, you'll need more food to gain more mass, I suspect. To stay lean but add muscle I would add in more meat, and eat lean red meat most every day. You could add in some oil for additional fats, and up the carbs somewhat.

 

[JKurz1]

My source is shut down, so that's not an option fo rme.......I'll add some more fats and meat, but carbs (I dont feel) play a role.......I feel 100X better when I take in lower carbs....less lethargic, etc.

 

[pharmguy]

BRING ON THE PAIN!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Shadow]

imo T-400 is useless........95% of folks will cut it on a 1:1 basis to live thru the injection soreness, so you are back to 200 mg/cc

 

[rrrr]

mix 1cc of t400 with 1cc of sterile oil and you won't feel anypain, but by itself, you WILL FEEL PAIN

 

[JKurz1]

What kind of oil? From where?

 

[rrrr]

Sterile oil, A----- has it. very cheap

 

[pharmguy]

shit, that T-400 is gonna be like pumpkin pie compared to that qv prop if its from the same batch I just had.

 

[JKurz1]

A-----?