Swollen Neck Behind ear, Using DNP & Zoloft, Please advise

[tempest2003]

hello all, ive noticed a rather large lump (swelling) on the back of my friends neck, located behind and a little below his ear, it doesnt hurt at all but he's kinda worried. he recently (in the last 2 weeks) started a perscript of zoloft, but also started his dnp cycle at 400mg e/d. He's not quite a week into the dnp and things are going as expected, keeping water intake high. He's used dnp before but has not had anything like this from the dnp. I think the smart thing to do would be to stop the dnp, maybe stop the zoloft as well, but dont know, also he's using eq at 200mg e/w and test e. at 200mg e/w.

 

[Varga]

Dunno man,
but I wouldn't start the dnp at 400 for sure. Always start that stuff at 200 and build up slowly.
At this point if you do not know what's causing this I would stop both just to be on the safe side and see what happens

 

[tempest2003]

he did start at 200, but has used before so only did for 2 days at 200

 

[halfcenturian]

This is a very rare diagnosis called crainial cell expansion and neurological tissue growth. You are growing a brain. The brain forms behind the inner ear and grows upward and inward until the cranial space is full of gray matter.
It should come in quite handy.

 

[Trendsetter21]

If you or your friend ever have something going on that worries you just go to a doctor. Honestly health and well being should be your number 1 priority always. I would come off whatever your friend is on and see a doc pronto.

 

[hurricane]

dnp can cause alergic reactions which promote swellling .. stop the dnp use and see if it goes away

 

[eddymerckx]

This is a very rare diagnosis called crainial cell expansion and neurological tissue growth. You are growing a brain. The brain forms behind the inner ear and grows upward and inward until the cranial space is full of gray matter.
It should come in quite handy.

i agree...b/c dnp assumed a certain amount of empty space w/in the cranial cavity.

that said, i would be not mess around with any swelling--at best is just clogged lymph nodes.....see a doc NOW

 

[swole]

why are you asking a chat board

tell him to go see a doctor

and drop the dnp

 

[Zuperman]

easy guys its only clogged lymph nodes or just swoolen, will reside in a couple days unless he keeps poking it.

happens to people from stupid shit like dandruff infections in the ears as well.

dont panic.

u atleast know ur DNP is legit

 

[timtim]

easy guys its only clogged lymph nodes or just swoolen, will reside in a couple days unless he keeps poking it.

happens to people from stupid shit like dandruff infections in the ears as well.

dont panic.

u atleast know ur DNP is legit

or it could be lymphoma or other much more serious illnesses that also cause swelling of the lymph nodes. hence, see a doctor.

 

[LoneTree]

hello all, ive noticed a rather large lump (swelling) on the back of my friends neck, located behind and a little below his ear, it doesnt hurt at all but he's kinda worried. he recently (in the last 2 weeks) started a perscript of zoloft, but also started his dnp cycle at 400mg e/d. He's not quite a week into the dnp and things are going as expected, keeping water intake high. He's used dnp before but has not had anything like this from the dnp. I think the smart thing to do would be to stop the dnp, maybe stop the zoloft as well, but dont know, also he's using eq at 200mg e/w and test e. at 200mg e/w.

Most likely it is lymph node enlargement. As it is painless, it may be viral.
Mastoid bone is also located in the same area. Mastoiditis (infection) is usually a omplication of middle ear infections, but it is rare to see that in US. And it almost always is painful. Fungus infection may not be painful.
It is most likely not directly linked to AAS, but it may be related to a dirty injection.
It is NOT a brain tumor or brain growth. Brain tumors NEVER show up like that (and you can take that to bank). This thing is OUTSIDE the skull, not inside it.
Tumors in this area are extremely rare, especially in younger people.
It is impossible to make a diagnosis without actually examining it.
If it does not start shrinking in 1-2 weeks, and is not gone in 3-4 weeks, then he MUST see a doctor for a proper diagnosis.

 

[Mavafanculo]

easy guys its only clogged lymph nodes or just swoolen, will reside in a couple days unless he keeps poking it.

happens to people from stupid shit like dandruff infections in the ears as well.

dont panic.

u atleast know ur DNP is legit

Dr Zuperman i presume?

I dont know much about DNP, but a quick study search didnt find any mention of growing a new head behind your ear as a common side.


To the Original poster, go to a doctor or clinic or emergency room and have it evaluated. better safe than sorry. swollen lymph nodes are usually pea-sized or marble sized. from your description sounds like yours is bigger than that

 

[Nelson Montana]

Using DNP -- dumb.

Using DNP when in need of an anti anxiety med -- really dumb.

Using DNP with EQ, which is known to cause anxiety -- stupendously dumb.

Asking a friend to ask a message board about a potentially life threatening situation -- off the chart idiocy.

Posts like this disturb me. To me, DNP has nothing to do with bodybuilding. You might as well be asking about the side effects of speed or heroin.

 

[LiquidPhire]

Using DNP -- dumb.

Using DNP when in need of an anti anxiety med -- really dumb.

Using DNP with EQ, which is known to cause anxiety -- stupendously dumb.

Asking a friend to ask a message board about a potentially life threatening situation -- off the chart idiocy.

Posts like this disturb me. To me, DNP has nothing to do with bodybuilding. You might as well be asking about the side effects of speed or heroin.

+1..


can you combine heroin and speed together in one syringe Nelson?
what are the potential sides?

 

[Nelson Montana]

+1..


can you combine heroin and speed together in one syringe Nelson?
what are the potential sides?

LOL!

 

[Tatyana]

Most likely it is lymph node enlargement. As it is painless, it may be viral.
Mastoid bone is also located in the same area. Mastoiditis (infection) is usually a omplication of middle ear infections, but it is rare to see that in US. And it almost always is painful. Fungus infection may not be painful.
It is most likely not directly linked to AAS, but it may be related to a dirty injection.
It is NOT a brain tumor or brain growth. Brain tumors NEVER show up like that (and you can take that to bank). This thing is OUTSIDE the skull, not inside it.
Tumors in this area are extremely rare, especially in younger people.
It is impossible to make a diagnosis without actually examining it.
If it does not start shrinking in 1-2 weeks, and is not gone in 3-4 weeks, then he MUST see a doctor for a proper diagnosis.

+1

Also as he is on so many flipping drugs, of course he is going to be stressing his immune system.

It is killing off bacteria and cancerous cells all the time, so when it is suppressed, the smallest thing could cause lymph node enlargement.

DNP is one of those desperation drugs that people take to get ready for comps when they have money at stake.

Using DNP just to lose some weight, bonkers, and this sort of irresponsible drug use is one of the reasons the US government is so hell-bent on 'operation raw-deal'.

 

[LoneTree]

+1

Also as he is on so many flipping drugs, of course he is going to be stressing his immune system.

It is killing off bacteria and cancerous cells all the time, so when it is suppressed, the smallest thing could cause lymph node enlargement.

DNP is one of those desperation drugs that people take to get ready for comps when they have money at stake.

Using DNP just to lose some weight, bonkers, and this sort of irresponsible drug use is one of the reasons the US government is so hell-bent on 'operation raw-deal'.

When I wrote my previous post, somehow the abbreviation 'DNP' did not register in my mind. There are so many different AAS and so many abbreviations. When I read the thread, I glossed through abbreviations and directly went to symptoms.

I am not trying to scare anyone with the lecture that 'no one should use DNP'. So many people also say that don't use AAS.
DNP starves the cells of energy. Energy is not utilised and wasted as heat. Therefore, the most common cause of death with DNP is high fever.
But theoretically, DNP can impair immune system. Immune cells are fast growing cells - we literally make billions of immune cells every day. Immune cells also synthesize a lot of proteins (immune globulins). Therefore they need a lot of energy.
Unusual infections are not supposed to happen in normal, healthy people. But if your immune system is week, that is what can happen.

If I am taking DNP, and I have any unusual symptoms, the first thing I will do is to get off DNP. Just remember: there is no antidote for DNP. The only treatment is to support the critical body systoms, hoping that body will recover from DNP toxicity on its own.
Whatever is the incentive, it is not worth risking serious health hazard.

 

[tempest2003]

my friend has decided to stop using the dnp after a 7 day run. he lost a few lbs and is looking very cut now. diet is on key and he plans on continuing with caffeine and albuterol for maintenance. cals are around 2500 e/d. Noteable sides included obviously insane body temp's (made mostly tolerable with 2+gal per day), skin irritation, very itchy which was also noticed in a previous run but not until about the end of a 2 week dnp run. Sleepless nights waking up in puddles of sweat were also common as well as strange body odors. Props to the vets who provided input, there was some very good info/opinions provided. swelling seems to have subsided somewhat and I will help continue to monitor his progress/recovery.

 

[Tatyana]

When I wrote my previous post, somehow the abbreviation 'DNP' did not register in my mind. There are so many different AAS and so many abbreviations. When I read the thread, I glossed through abbreviations and directly went to symptoms.

I am not trying to scare anyone with the lecture that 'no one should use DNP'. So many people also say that don't use AAS.
DNP starves the cells of energy. Energy is not utilised and wasted as heat. Therefore, the most common cause of death with DNP is high fever.
But theoretically, DNP can impair immune system. Immune cells are fast growing cells - we literally make billions of immune cells every day. Immune cells also synthesize a lot of proteins (immune globulins). Therefore they need a lot of energy.
Unusual infections are not supposed to happen in normal, healthy people. But if your immune system is week, that is what can happen.

If I am taking DNP, and I have any unusual symptoms, the first thing I will do is to get off DNP. Just remember: there is no antidote for DNP. The only treatment is to support the critical body systoms, hoping that body will recover from DNP toxicity on its own.
Whatever is the incentive, it is not worth risking serious health hazard.

We make millions of neutrophils yes, but not necessarily that many T, B, NK, macrophages or monocytes.

Some of those have to specialise, and for example, we don't have a lot of memory cells.

Only B cells make immunoglobulin IgG, IgA, IgM, mostly.

This is the thing, a lot of you experiment with your body, which is cool when you are responsible, but it is so bloody complicated, mess too much, throw things out of homeostasis, you have a pathological process.

For as complex as things are, I am surprised we don't fall ill more often.

 

[halfcenturian]

This is a very rare diagnosis called crainial cell expansion and neurological tissue growth. You are growing a brain. The brain forms behind the inner ear and grows upward and inward until the cranial space is full of gray matter.
It should come in quite handy.

My answer was complete nonsense and BS. I hope for the love of God you realized that. Just a feable attempt at humor.

Real answer if you care, avoid DNP. Go see a Dr. on Tuesday.

 

[timtim]

my friend has decided to stop using the dnp after a 7 day run. he lost a few lbs and is looking very cut now. diet is on key and he plans on continuing with caffeine and albuterol for maintenance. cals are around 2500 e/d. Noteable sides included obviously insane body temp's (made mostly tolerable with 2+gal per day), skin irritation, very itchy which was also noticed in a previous run but not until about the end of a 2 week dnp run. Sleepless nights waking up in puddles of sweat were also common as well as strange body odors. Props to the vets who provided input, there was some very good info/opinions provided. swelling seems to have subsided somewhat and I will help continue to monitor his progress/recovery.

considering that dnp causes considerable water retention and the weight lose is seen after a week or so after cessation, how does he know he lost weight?

 

[tempest2003]

i dont know what you're talking about, for one i dont think it causes water retention, if you can retain any water on dnp i think you're doing damn good for yourself. for 2, the improvement is visually very apparent. much more definition in the abs/solarplexus

 

[tab1]

Simple, go see a doc

 

[Varga]

When using DNP it does not matter how many times you did it before you always start as if this your first cycle. Just because you handled it well one time it does not mean you are going to handle it again the same way again the 2nd time. Hence start low with even 100mg and build slow.

Second, it is best to just do DNP by itself. From anecdotal evidence when it is mixed with AAS strange things happen like EXCESIVE sweating. I think DNP needs to be used by itself or with a LOW maintenance dose of test. IF its used with AAS use lower dose of DNP and stay on top of it. Hear many ppl sweating excesively while on AAS and DNP. Don't ask me why I dunno

Third, make sure you have Benedril on hand. Just about everybody who took DNP got that rush.
Hope this helps

 

[Zuperman]

Dr Zuperman i presume?

I dont know much about DNP, but a quick study search didnt find any mention of growing a new head behind your ear as a common side.


To the Original poster, go to a doctor or clinic or emergency room and have it evaluated. better safe than sorry. swollen lymph nodes are usually pea-sized or marble sized. from your description sounds like yours is bigger than that

no bro, Just a Chemist, A real pharma FDA chemist not an UG chemist. its usually a pea sized swollen node, not a new growth growing. just a swollen up node thats all. A hair is growth, but if u jam ur finger in a door it swells up to become bigger, the extra size on the finger isn't growth , its just swolen.

 

[sensational]

i dont know what you're talking about, for one i dont think it causes water retention, if you can retain any water on dnp i think you're doing damn good for yourself. for 2, the improvement is visually very apparent. much more definition in the abs/solarplexus

This is just false and nonsense. Dnp does cause a lot of water retention.

 

[shirlock]

Used to promote and sell Xydep (generic sertraline) I never came accross any reactions of this kind...

don't believe the zoloft has anything to do with the symptons described

 

[timtim]

i dont know what you're talking about, for one i dont think it causes water retention, if you can retain any water on dnp i think you're doing damn good for yourself. for 2, the improvement is visually very apparent. much more definition in the abs/solarplexus

sorry but this is not true. weight lose is not apparent during or immediately after stopping use. its just not.