Sustanon-- the REAL story

[P-CURLS]

good info, and some karma too.

 

[C-Steele]

overkill... hehe... that is an understatement. I'd like to see him do 3500mg in the first 2 weeks... he'd have no nuts and huge breasts... maybe a guest shot on Son of the Beach....

j/k

Steele

250mg ED for the first two weeks will be an over-kill...

If anything.. So 250mg for the first week..

Andy

hey Andy,
I will be starting my next cycle in a few months,I am planning on doing 1cc ED of sustanon for 2 weeks,then 1/2cc ED for the other 6 weeks.Does this seem like a good plan?Will I benefit from shooting 1/2cc ED vs. 1cc EOD,will it make blood levels steadier?

 

[MohawkMuscle]

so whats the best way to use sustanon? I cc every 5 days?

 

[panerai]

How come all of them return to baseline at the same time?
I must be missing something...

 

[Andy13]

How come all of them return to baseline at the same time?
I must be missing something...

Because they have similar half lives.. (5,6,7,8 days).. If I graphed test deconate vs TP, you would be able to see the gradual taper of the deconate vs higher spike/quicker drop off of TP.

Andy

 

[panerai]

Andy, I will take your word for it. Although, when I looked at decanoate compared to phenylprop in Minto study, the difference is really big...
Nevertherless, I completely agree with you about Sustanon, it was pretty obvious after your and Zyg's posts about all the esters picking up in first 24hrs after injection.
Great post!

 

[fyrfyter]

Karma 4 U

 

[Andy13]

Andy, I will take your word for it. Although, when I looked at decanoate compared to phenylprop in Minto study, the difference is really big...
Nevertherless, I completely agree with you about Sustanon, it was pretty obvious after your and Zyg's posts about all the esters picking up in first 24hrs after injection.
Great post!

I remember seeing an actual blood chart of deca blood levels after injection... All I remember was that the measured peak was somewhere between 24-48(+?) hrs after injection.. I'm not sure how much we can assume from this... If it was a dilute injection (say, 100mg in 1ml oil), and, depending on the location of the injection, this may mean nothing to us.. Other than, of course, (as you know) ALL esters peak EARLY.. , it's not as if you inject sustanon and then, five days later, BANG..

Andy

 

[Dizzy]

The above is a graph of single injections of sustanon 250, compared with other single 250mg injections of esters of 5,6,7, and 8 day half lives (using the equation posted on the graph).

The half lives assigned to each ester were:
TP- 3 days
TPP- 3 days
isoC - 7 days
dec- 10 days

I realize that these values for each half life are somewhat arguable.. But these values seem to be the most widely accepted approximations.

From the picture, you can see that the blood levels from a single sustanon injection are 2nd highest, with the highest initial blood levels being seen from the 5 day half life ester.

I should note that molecular weight of the ester was not taken into consideration.. If I had taken this into consideration, sustanon would appear even 'FASTER ACTING' than is shown. This is because the larger esters of testosterone in sustanon comprise a large portion of the T molecule.. What this means is that 100mg of the deconate ester is somewhat misleading since it doesn't amount to all that much (raw test).

I think it's important to realize, as seen from the theoretical model, that SUSTANON, despite it's 4 ester components, STILL resembles an AAS with a single ester.. And, in fact, is much faster acting than most believe.

Andy

Sure would like to see that pic.

 

[panerai]

Andy, I think you have typo in the equation, you didn't add 1 to X in second part.