Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I'm running sustanon 250 (1cc EOD) for the first three weeks to load, then 250mg twice a week for 16 weeks and stacking Tren A ( 1cc twice a week) for the last 5 weeks what kind of results can I expect? My stats are: 26 yrs old, 6,5 285lbs 2nd cycle and also running a GNC ripped vitapack for a natural fat Burner and cutter. I would appreciate any insight.
Sustanon 250/ Tren A stack..... Results to expect
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Hit_the_weightS
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If I were you I would be cutting down my BF before doing another cycle.
The only reason for having BF as high as that is by eating the WRONG shit bro. Plain and simple.
Fix your diet ASAP cause your asking for a heart attack using aas at that weight and BF.
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The only reason for having BF as high as that is by eating the WRONG shit bro. Plain and simple.
Fix your diet ASAP cause your asking for a heart attack using aas at that weight and BF.
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Didn't see bf % there you just making An assumption cuz of weight? Not trying to be a dick just asking.
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Hit_the_weightS
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He originally put his BF at 23% bro
Looks like he removed that bit now.
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My diet consists of wake up drink a whey protein shake and a granola bar on the way to work at lunch I have turkey sandwich on 100% wheat bread with lettuce and mustard or a grilled chicken salad dry a half scoop of whey before the gym with a pre workout drink (assault by muscle pharm) after the gym a syntha 6 shake and a sensible dinner usually baked chicken with a small salad or turkey burgers on wheat buns and over a gallon of water a day and taking 1000mcg of b12,1000 mg of milk thistle, 1000mg of fish oil, st johns wart, and the ripped vita pack.
No where near enough food in there. If you look I posted a thread about dieting that will help steer you in the right direction.
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Good foods buy not enough of it....and too much shakes = too much sugar....BF is 23% because you need more calories & your body is in semi-starvation mode.....you're a big dude you can handle more calories and build lean muscle with them....juice is not the answer
~EZ
~EZ
No where near enough...I am 6'6 and 242lbs around 12%bf and I cut weight with around 3200 calories a day with a refeed day one every 2 weeks where I up my carbs and calories go over 4,000 for the day or 2.
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Hit_the_weightS
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Post a pic so we can get an idea of your actual BF.
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+1 or go find a dunk tank and get it tested that way.
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2300 calories a day? You're 6'5 and 285, that's a caloric intake for a chick 3 weeks before a figure show.....
Don't be afraid to eat, it's easier to cut the calories DOWN if you need to than to realize you haven't been eating enough and have to scramble to eat more....
~EZ
gatemoney
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Thats exactly what he did, i read it at 23% earlier as well :'(
gatemoney
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What is the benefit of the refeed for you?
Hit_the_weightS
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Hard to tell with you wearing the vest but I'd say you might be more than 23% bro
Not far off though
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Not far off though
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OMG, I cant take it any futher. This is not a dating service. why is your shirt on? What are you hiding under there?
Really that is a basic eat simple plan, and those never work because you don't understand the priciples of macros etc. Please go to the diet section. Really read for a while about what % of protien, carbs and fats you need. WO days are different than non wo days. If you truely want to be under 10% some day, you better go read up. And yes with your shirt on you look 20-25%
Not lean at all.
Really that is a basic eat simple plan, and those never work because you don't understand the priciples of macros etc. Please go to the diet section. Really read for a while about what % of protien, carbs and fats you need. WO days are different than non wo days. If you truely want to be under 10% some day, you better go read up. And yes with your shirt on you look 20-25%
Not lean at all.
Hit_the_weightS
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We wanna help you bro but you gotta be honest with us.
A clear pic
Honest stats
And your goals.
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A clear pic
Honest stats
And your goals.
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Pain is weakness leaving the Body
Benefit is to confuse the body and let the muscles replump a bit. I run my diet basically like this 50% proteins, 30% carbs and 20% fats. I space my carbs out by taking a serving of carbs in am with breakfast and then another serving 2 hours before the gym and another serving post workout (occasionally I will have simple carbs with protein during my workouts as this helps with recovery as well as sustains energy for those tough workouts). By splitting the carbs up like this and keeping your carbs somewhat low/restricted it allows your body to go into a nice state of lipolysis during the day when you are feeding your body with lean protein allowing you to feed the muscles the nutrients they need while also providing a source of energy (excess protein) to run the body which carbs (complex carbs which is really only kind I have for the most part, there are exceptions) take longer to process and digest.
That would be the simple answer. I will post a link to my thread about dieting to lose bf and help sustaining as much muscle during the process (original article was published by layne norton who is a pro natural bber and an education in the dieting world).
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=821133
There we go.
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Hit_the_weightS
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Bro you gotta understand taking aas when over weight is a heart attack waiting to happen.
You aren't obese at 23% BF but you are overweight but that can be fixed with hard work in no time at all.
Aas is not going to make you lose that initial BF.
It's going to take a clean diet and lots of hard work but you can do it easily as you are still in the ok zone on BF.
I'm sure a few of the vets will chime in soon and back me up here.
There are shit loads of threads on diet and good cardio routines.
You'll be ready for aas once you get that BF down to around the 15% margin.
Nothing but love here bro
Just keeping your best interests at heart
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You aren't obese at 23% BF but you are overweight but that can be fixed with hard work in no time at all.
Aas is not going to make you lose that initial BF.
It's going to take a clean diet and lots of hard work but you can do it easily as you are still in the ok zone on BF.
I'm sure a few of the vets will chime in soon and back me up here.
There are shit loads of threads on diet and good cardio routines.
You'll be ready for aas once you get that BF down to around the 15% margin.
Nothing but love here bro
Just keeping your best interests at heart
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You try doing cardio in the am first thing on an empty stomach? Helps melt fat off the body. Just as a pointer. We are not trying to be mean we are being honest bro. Wouldn't you rather get good advice from honest people or bad advice from people who are telling you what you want to hear not giving a shit about your health? No one here wants to see you have a heart attack or anything bad. Get your bodyfat down to 15% or less naturally first before you even think about aas.
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Empty stomach am cardio? Also twice a day as mentioned earlier with all that activity your body is going into survival/starvation mode and will not burn the fat as energy. What it will do is hold on to as much nutrients as it can to just help sustain body function. I know it sounds weird but you need to eat more to lose the fat.
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gatemoney
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Thank you for the thorough response bro! This is exactly what I was looking for, I am dieting right now and of course muscle waist is a major concern.
gatemoney
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+1 very well said!
Cutting is easier than people think, more than anything it's consistency!
Anytime always glad to help. Let me know what you think of the article. It's a long read I know but so beneficial! Good luck.
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gatemoney
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Great post letsgrow!
I like how he related everything to body type.
Im endo so i always have to take that into consideration. I will deff be making some adjustments to my diet. The way he related all major dieting concerns to each individual body type can benefit everyone. Well worth the long read!!!!
blue_steel74
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Hey now!!...i dieted in 2300 calories and i have a penis. In also 5'7" also lol
I think I just peed a little lol
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