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SUSTAIN & VAR

james629

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I had planned on running var with PP's Ultimate stack but unfortunately var was not available to me until now. Now I can get it and was going to run it with the second half of the stack (Dermicrine will be done by this Sunday)maybe longer if I order another bottle of Sustain. Any thoughts or recommendations on how best to do it now?
 
You can add it in for the last 4 weeks, although you might want another bottle of sustain at the end.

Im running the Ultimate stack now also, I have a couple days left of derma but PP rocks and i might run derma for 5 weeks if my hair doesnt thin out (prone to thin hair not loss), I always wanted to run something LIGHT like Var with something like this stack.

Let me know how it goes for you. How is the Stack working for you so far?

-Legacy
 
Hairloss? why are you experiencing any with Dermi? I am not overly impresssed. I would say I got a little strength and libido boost and same for my friend who started same time as me. Personally I would not waste the money on the stack again unless something dramatic happens in the next 5 weeks.
 
james629 said:
I had planned on running var with PP's Ultimate stack but unfortunately var was not available to me until now. Now I can get it and was going to run it with the second half of the stack (Dermicrine will be done by this Sunday)maybe longer if I order another bottle of Sustain. Any thoughts or recommendations on how best to do it now?

It would have been best to use the Var with the Dermacrine, since its hormonal. Plus they stack very well together.

If you started the Var now you could probably get away with it at 40mg/day for the last 4 weeks without worrying about too much suppresion.

-Pp
 
Thanks PP, I guess that is what I will do. Isn't the Phytotest hormonal? What are your thoughts of running the var now for 5 weeks and save the second part of the stack for pct?




Primordial Performance said:
It would have been best to use the Var with the Dermacrine, since its hormonal. Plus they stack very well together.

If you started the Var now you could probably get away with it at 40mg/day for the last 4 weeks without worrying about too much suppresion.

-Pp
 
james629 said:
Thanks PP, I guess that is what I will do. Isn't the Phytotest hormonal? What are your thoughts of running the var now for 5 weeks and save the second part of the stack for pct?

Sorry, I meant Dermacrine has "pro-hormones" so it stacks well with other pro-hormones and AAS. Since both Var and Dermacrine inhibit natural test production its best to use these kinds of products together.

Phyto-Test has plant extracts that mimick testosterone, but they dont actualy inhibit natural T production. However, it would still stack well with Var.

-Pp
 
So what would be best to do in you opinion? Will the sustain negativly impact the vars effectivness in anyway?

A. Start now and run 4 weeks into the second phase of the stack.

B. Finish the dermicrine, first bottles of phyto & cla and run the var by itself for five weeks then finish the stack.

c. Start the var now for five weeks and run through second part of stack but buy another bottle of sustain to finish.

THANKS
 
james629 said:
So what would be best to do in you opinion? Will the sustain negativly impact the vars effectivness in anyway?

A. Start now and run 4 weeks into the second phase of the stack.

B. Finish the dermicrine, first bottles of phyto & cla and run the var by itself for five weeks then finish the stack.

c. Start the var now for five weeks and run through second part of stack but buy another bottle of sustain to finish.

THANKS

Without sounding like a sales pitch, I would get another bottle of Dermacrine and run that with the Var, along with the CLA and Phyto. Then, just use the Sustain for PCT.

The Sustain wont hinder your Var gains, but it probably wont add much to the cycle to be honest, since the Var will be shutting down your natural T production limiting the effects of the Sustain.

-Pp
 
Is it ok to run the Dermicrine that long? It says 4 weeks max right? also DJ said
Im running the Ultimate stack now also, I have a couple days left of derma but PP rocks and i might run derma for 5 weeks if my hair doesnt thin out (prone to thin hair not loss), I always wanted to run something LIGHT like Var with something like this stack.
Have you had reports of dermicrine causing hairloss?
 
james629 said:
Is it ok to run the Dermicrine that long? It says 4 weeks max right? also DJ said Have you had reports of dermicrine causing hairloss?

Dermacrine wont cause hairloss because of the pregnenolone it contains.

4 weeks on Dermacrine is the max we recommend for guys not doing a PCT. Now that your throwing in the Anavar for the last 4 weeks, your going to be suppressed anyway, so you might aswell stack it with Dermacrine for better gains.

Since you have Sustain for PCT, the 8 weeks of Dermacrine would be no problem.

-Pp
 
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