Sust vs EQ ?

[NY1Muscle]

If you were starting with one steroid would it be sust or eq?

was planning

first cycle to be: sust
second cycle: sust/eq/dbol (wk 1-4)

{also have a little deca (1000mg) but not sure what to do with cuch a small amount

 

[machman]

With the mixture of esters in Sust, it's a good first choice IMHO. Due to it's content of Prop you may want to shoot it eod to keep blood levels even. If you were only planning on doing 250mg/wk you could split it up into three shots and shoot MWF... Kind of a pain in the ass (literally), but will result in more even blood levels. Some say it can be shot twice a week, but the prop will not be administered evenly this way, although it won't matter much for the other esters. You pick. I still think it's one of the best choices if it's all you're going to use. On 250 a week you can make solid gains. Eat clean, and train hard, don't worry about an anti-e unless you're prone (although I guess you really don't know if you are or not so it wouldn't hurt to have nolva on hand in case you are...well worth the cash and you'll need it on hand for the 2nd cycle you mentioned anyway).

 

[genarr3]

That would depend on what I wanted the end result to be. Sustenon will give you more weight gain, EQ more muscle hardness.

 

[NY1Muscle]

thanks mach....good input.

i will attempt the 3x/wk dosing.

 

[lbcjustin]

Eat clean, and train hard, don't worry about an anti-e unless you're prone (although I guess you really don't know if you are or not so it wouldn't hurt to have nolva on hand in case you are...well worth the cash and you'll need it on hand for the 2nd cycle you mentioned anyway).

Machman, I agree with your post and I like the small recommended dosage. But in my experience my advice is to NEVER leave out the Clomid, or you're prone to lose your gains and go through all sorts of shitty side effects, perhaps even off such a small dosage of test. I'm sure you meant to say that anyway. Late.

 

[NY1Muscle]

GENARR ??

Isn't all muscle the same in the end?? I know some steroids give a puffier "watery" look....but once you're off them doesn't it all wind up being hard muscle after the water retention is gone?

I'm not a competitor so I really don't care if I am puffy for a couple of months....as long as once I'm off them I go back to normal.

I think in the end we all want hard solid muscle - don't we?? Does anyone actually prefer that soft pillsbury dough boy look? At the end of the day I want to be built like Brad Pitt, not The Rock. Maybe halfway between the two (vin diesel) depending on how I respond and how much I can spend on gear.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Re: GENARR ??

Isn't all muscle the same in the end?? I know some steroids give a puffier "watery" look....but once you're off them doesn't it all wind up being hard muscle after the water retention is gone?

I'm not a competitor so I really don't care if I am puffy for a couple of months....as long as once I'm off them I go back to normal.

I think in the end we all want hard solid muscle - don't we?? Does anyone actually prefer that soft pillsbury dough boy look? At the end of the day I want to be built like Brad Pitt, not The Rock. Maybe halfway between the two (vin diesel) depending on how I respond and how much I can spend on gear.

Thats where arimidex comes in. Stay hard on test and you can really see what you have gained.

 

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[genarr3]

Re: GENARR ??

Isn't all muscle the same in the end?? I know some steroids give a puffier "watery" look....but once you're off them doesn't it all wind up being hard muscle after the water retention is gone?

I'm not a competitor so I really don't care if I am puffy for a couple of months....as long as once I'm off them I go back to normal.

I think in the end we all want hard solid muscle - don't we?? Does anyone actually prefer that soft pillsbury dough boy look? At the end of the day I want to be built like Brad Pitt, not The Rock. Maybe halfway between the two (vin diesel) depending on how I respond and how much I can spend on gear.

Yes you are correct. Sustenon will make you retain much more water, which is why it's considered to be more of a "bulking" drug. Equipoise aromatizes only slightly so it's more of a "cutting" drug.

As Golfer said using Arimidex/Liquidex will dramatically reduce water retention, but I don't think it'll completely eliminate it.

Post cycle once the water is gone, you have the same muscle no matter what you took.