Sust 250 with DBOL. 1st cycle~!

[sickzx3]

Hey ya,
Im new to the boards but i've been researching AAS for about 3 months now just getting familiar with the cycles and products.
My friends all use it and have had great results from it so i am going to do my first cycle.
I work out mon-fri, i do a muscle area per day for about 45 minutes, and i do about 30-45 minutes of cardio every day. I am 24 yrs old, 6ft tall, 185lbs, about 11% body fat, pretty lean.

My first cycle i m thinking about doing:
10 inj of sust 250 every week,
stacked with Dbol, 25 every week.

What ya think?
What should i expect from this? eating about 3000 calorie diet of high protein(300-350g)
Thanks i appreciate all your help

 

[bw1]

I'd run sust only for first cycle. If you do stack with D-bol, 25mg ED.

 

[sickzx3]

i can do that too,
Is 10 weeks every week a good start?
What kind of gains should i expect?

 

[kas1]

i can do that too,
Is 10 weeks every week a good start?



Don't exactly understand the question.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i did sust 250 ew for 8wks ,deca 300 ew for 8wks and i gained 25lbs and lost 10 on my first time. you should be good bro, let us know how it goes

 

[halfcenturian]

Gains depend on YOU. How much, and what you eat. How intensely you workout, genetics, proper rest. A ballpark estimate would be 10-15 NET pounds+/-.
You will lose some water weight when you stop and go on PCT.
most would say run the sust alone. I agree, but the Dbol will give you added strength (along with water weight you will lose post cycle.) Up to you.
If you do run Dbol, I would suggest 20-40mg/ED along with Sust for 10-12 weeks.

 

[hog#head#cheese]

Remember sust has prop in it and requires eod injections to stabililize hormone levels it also takes a month to kick in

 

[sweed]

If it has prop is should kick in sooner than a month!
Looks pretty good. do it for 10- 12 weeks. 250 is good for your size. dbol for 4 weeks at 30 mgs will be a nice kickstart.
I did test/dbol for my first and gained a net of about 22-23lbs. I used 500 mgs of test e tho, but I was also 40 heavier than you at a tad more bf.
Up that cals to 4000/ day.
What does your PCT look like??
GoodLuck!
Good luck! keep researching

 

[kas1]

Remember Sustanon has testosterone propionate in it and requires eod injections to stabililize hormone levels it also takes a month to kick in

Yes it is better to go eod, but not a must for good gains. I prefer it eod, or at least add some testosterone propionate eod.
As for sus taking a month to kick in, I have to disagree. Hence the testosterone propionate in the mix.
I use sus in most of my cycles and get alot out of it with minimal sides. Even at higher doses.
First cycle 500 ew should see great results so long as all else is in line.
I'd save the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for a little later on myself. 25mg ew won't do jack.

 

[drsketch]

I am still a nub but I would probably do just the test or test and another non or little aromatizing compound with very manageable sides. Being that DBOL is heavy on aromatizing to estrogen and you do not even know how you will react to much less aromatizing from just test probably not a good idea to run dbol at first. You dont want titties and you dont want mellon face.

 

[halfcenturian]

Your first cycle will be your "BEST" cycle. You only get one first cycle so think it through. If you have high blood pressure, be sure to take some OTC supplements or prescription meds. Headaches are a sure sign your BP is high.
Dbol will profoundly add to your strength gains then Test alone. But it usually does elevate BP and water weight. you can control both. I use .25mg Arimidex every 3 days for gyno prevention, AND to keep water weight low.

 

[sshadoww]

Your first cycle will be your "BEST" cycle. You only get one first cycle so think it through. If you have high blood pressure, be sure to take some OTC supplements or prescription meds. Headaches are a sure sign your BP is high.
Dbol will profoundly add to your strength gains then Test alone. But it usually does elevate BP and water weight. you can control both. I use .25mg Arimidex every 3 days for gyno prevention, AND to keep water weight low.

Good advice here..have your levels checked first. Also good idea to use a liver supp if you plan on running the Dbol (I use Milk Thistle as a staple supp when running an oral)

 

[sickzx3]

Are there any full tutorials on "how to inject properly"?
I ve decided to just run 10 weeks of sust 250 once a week and see how it works. I ll keep my protein really high.
Thanks ya really appreciate it.

 

[boyer]

Are there any full tutorials on "how to inject properly"?
I ve decided to just run 10 weeks of sust 250 once a week and see how it works. I ll keep my protein really high.
Thanks ya really appreciate it.

spotinjections.com

I prefer quad injections.

 

[sickzx3]

very good.
Thanks again ya,.
I just gotta find some "real" stuff online now. Hard to do tho

 

[kas1]

very good.
Thanks again ya,.
I just gotta find some "real" stuff online now. Hard to do tho

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