Strength Standards

[Tblock1]

Since it was being discussed who was strongest out of the people who have logs here, I thought I'd start a thread to see different people's opinions on the matter.

Here are my standards:

Bench:
1.25 bw=decent
1.5 bw=good
2+ bw= excellent

Squat
1.75 bw=decent
2 bw= good
2.5=excellent

Deadlift
2=decent
2.5=good
3=excellent

 

[oso0960]

Bench:
1 bw=decent
1.5 bw=good
2 bw= excellent

Squat
1.5 bw=decent
2 bw= good
2.5=excellent

Deadlift
2=decent
2.5=good
3=excellent

 

[bblazer]

I don't think these play well.

Think about your deadlift as an example. That would mean a guy like Brian Shaw would need a 1045lb pull to be rated as excellent. But then you get a guy like Ed Coan who squatted 1003 at 242 lbs.

I don't think its right to make a correlation between body weight and lifting capacity. It just isn't that simple. You might be able to come up with some metric that evaluated force or work vs body weight and that might be a bit more accurate.

B-

 

[moya]

wilkes formula would probably be better... at least thats what they use in competition...

 

[Tblock1]

I don't think these play well.

Think about your deadlift as an example. That would mean a guy like Brian Shaw would need a 1045lb pull to be rated as excellent. But then you get a guy like Ed Coan who squatted 1003 at 242 lbs.

I don't think its right to make a correlation between body weight and lifting capacity. It just isn't that simple. You might be able to come up with some metric that evaluated force or work vs body weight and that might be a bit more accurate.

B-

I agree with you in some cases, ie for people over 200 something it get less and less true. ie for someone like scotsman who is 320 and bench 435?(i think) that is a good+ bench and it is only 1.36x bodyweight. However if someone is 115 pounds and they bench 155, I would say they had decent bodyweight strength but, I would say they still aren't strong by any standards. However I think you can do bodyweight strength ratios because if you can squat 345 at 115 you may not be super strong by people's standards, but you are going to have a lot of power and be able to move your bodyweight quickly.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

there was an article on t-nation that had what your strengths should be in compparison to you lifts. So it would base all your lifts on a major lift. So for bench, it would have 100% bench. Then it would say your deadlift whould be 178% of that. If that makes sense

 

[ExtraMile]

this way of finding out strength is where the strong ass ecto's and the small built oly lifters smoke everyone

 

[musketeer]

Depends on what you train for.

Oly lifters can press a shitload overhead, but won't have amazing benches.

Some powerlifters can squat over 1,000lbs but probably can't lift 500lb in the front squat or clean.

Strongmen are really impressive all-round but will lose in all 5 lifts to specialized weightlifters and powerlifters....

 

[SaiBoT]

Honestly the video that Extramile posted about powerlifter vs strongman it's perfect for showing the uselessness of this thread...

Those three lifts alone don't say nothing about someones real strength... our body was made for multi directional strength, strength endurance, explosiveness etc etc

To Mr Tblock please reevaluate the quality and quantity of your standards, the way i see it you shouldn't be so shortsighted, open your mind...

 

[the_alcatraz]

I'm just a bodybuilder and I do pretty well with those weight numbers:

Bodyweight = ranges between 200lbs and 205lbs right now + been natural for a few months

My lifts, recovering from injury in my lower back and knee:

For a max I can bench, deadlift and squat 405 if I wanted to - that's more than double my weight on all three lifts.

But I can see how the heavier you get, your lifts increase DECREASINGLY