Strength a factor?

[Kane Fan]

far from all muscle and would still not match my coach but without a doubt strength plays a role, tank is a perfect example

your coach is trained in more then just grappling?

 

[Kane Fan]

yah you can do both
but like I said the weight even when it's muscle is extra tax on the cardio,
plus if the smaller guy plays keepaway cardio can become a problem

could be cus wreslters have good mobility and big legs

 

[Djimbe]

well , if youre Bigger than a guy and youre dumb enough to waste your energy Chasing him then thats your own dumb assed fault !

hehehehehe !

I mean , I f a guy cant Reach me Im not going to go LOOKING to get hit ! I stand still and Counterfight .

 

[1392477]

I have allways heard that strength is not a factor, but I have been watching some of these videos on like wrestlers and BJJ'ers and I have got to say unless the guy was a TRUE master I dunno if he could take me. If the guy was ANY less weight then me and not near my strength some of those holds I could just pick myself and him during it and body slam him on his head. I dont see how some of these can be effective if the other person has you really outmatched strength and maybe weight wise. Or are they?

Watch Quentin Jackson (PRIDE) fight some time. He is a strong guy and when fighters try arm locks he just picks them up and slams them on their heads. A perfect illustration to your point.

 

[Kane Fan]

well , if youre Bigger than a guy and youre dumb enough to waste your energy Chasing him then thats your own dumb assed fault !

hehehehehe !

I mean , I f a guy cant Reach me Im not going to go LOOKING to get hit ! I stand still and Counterfight .

I prefer to Counter punch and Counter move as well but the problem is I'm only good at Countering when I'm moving backward, sideways or standing still
(so basically I can't counter moving forward) and I am on the short side with bad reach : o (
but I am heavy to so I can have someone lighter then me who outranges me, so I have to move in *sigh*
on the plus side if I pin them againt something they are screwed

 

[GYMWEAR.ORG]

im an ex bodybuilder/powerlifter and probably one of the strongest in my class at mma/vale tudo and strength means nothing when up against someone with good skill levels and technique in my experience.

 

[Djimbe]

I prefer to Counter punch and Counter move as well but the problem is I'm only good at Countering when I'm moving backward, sideways or standing still
(so basically I can't counter moving forward) and I am on the short side with bad reach : o (
but I am heavy to so I can have someone lighter then me who outranges me, so I have to move in *sigh*
on the plus side if I pin them againt something they are screwed

Thats Wierd ...

I mean , usually ppl with Smaller Reach want to be on the Inside ... You need to Find a system that is all about Infighting with the hands - you know a system that for whom Normal Clinch Range is Striking Range - like Xingyi or Wing Chun ... the only problem is finding a good school/Teacher ...

My Xingyi teacher is LITERALLY a foot shorter and 240 lbs lighter than I am and he gets in on me 50-50 . And thats with me having more than 2.5 DECADES of MA practice AND being a Hand Percussionist ! Systems like Boxing just rely too much on Attributes .

 

[Djimbe]

im an ex bodybuilder/powerlifter and probably one of the strongest in my class at mma/vale tudo and strength means nothing when up against someone with good skill levels and technique in my experience.

Well , it seems that way now , when youre pretty much a noob , but trust me when I say that when you know whats gooing on then strength REALLY makes a HUGE difference .

 

[Kane Fan]

im an ex bodybuilder/powerlifter and probably one of the strongest in my class at mma/vale tudo and strength means nothing when up against someone with good skill levels and technique in my experience.

common missconception
you think when we say strength matters we are saying itll carry the day
wrong
but if you had your same skill level and half your strength, you'd be half as difficulty to deal with

 

[Kane Fan]

Thats Wierd ...

I mean , usually ppl with Smaller Reach want to be on the Inside ... You need to Find a system that is all about Infighting with the hands - you know a system that for whom Normal Clinch Range is Striking Range - like Xingyi or Wing Chun ... the only problem is finding a good school/Teacher ...

My Xingyi teacher is LITERALLY a foot shorter and 240 lbs lighter than I am and he gets in on me 50-50 . And thats with me having more than 2.5 DECADES of MA practice AND being a Hand Percussionist ! Systems like Boxing just rely too much on Attributes .

my inside fighting is quite good actually for my experience level
the problem is we spar in a wide open yard so I have nothing to pin the other guy against
with them generally being far lighter then me and having reach it's too easy for them to play keepaway
in a ring I'd murder most people with similar experience