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mrstamiina
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Daisy_Girl said:
Jesus Christ every one, we all no the government lies.
Why give them any excuses to use.
Thats all I'm saying.
They didn't make up 100 deaths on ephedra. Thats what there going to present in court, When all the companies start suing.
Why give the government proof?
MrMakaveli
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Your neglecting tolerance issues, whcih I'm not sure how you could miss.
For example- being an ex smoker, I have to exceed the dosage reccomended on the thremorexin bottle..abuse? Nope, just a tolerance issue.
BTW: Even P.A. th eman who designed 1-AD says the dsoage on the bottle is conservative and to take more.
For example- being an ex smoker, I have to exceed the dosage reccomended on the thremorexin bottle..abuse? Nope, just a tolerance issue.
BTW: Even P.A. th eman who designed 1-AD says the dsoage on the bottle is conservative and to take more.
Dieselstud23
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Abusing supp
First of all I totally agree with Sir Fox, this is all about money and the big pharmas are winning by banning ephedra and sell their shit drugs. and to smb_69 dude I dont know what pro hormone you took that it was all water, 1 test is great personally for me has worked better then some real gear, I'm not going back to the real gear while we have trandermal 1 test I love the solid gains and strength up the roof!!! and easy to buy and most of all legal
First of all I totally agree with Sir Fox, this is all about money and the big pharmas are winning by banning ephedra and sell their shit drugs. and to smb_69 dude I dont know what pro hormone you took that it was all water, 1 test is great personally for me has worked better then some real gear, I'm not going back to the real gear while we have trandermal 1 test I love the solid gains and strength up the roof!!! and easy to buy and most of all legal
mrstamiina
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MrMakaveli said:
First off,
Which doctor, or where does it say on the bottle of thremorexin does it say "If you are a ex smoker to ignore the dosage on the bottle and take what ever you want?"
And second, I would love to read this article or quote of Ergopharm saying "you should take more then what we say on the bottle"
I called them and even asked, for recommended dosage and cycles.
So I would love to know where you re getting your info from?
By the way I'm not saying you re wrong , just want to know where you base your info from.
Macro and Ulter both have posted that people who are ex-smokers will probably have to exceed the recommended doseage. I wouldn't say they RECOMMENDED this, simply from a legal standpoint I doubt they would do so, but they have said that individual users might find they need to take more based off their past history of smoking and/or other drug use.
Everyone has different tolerance levels to everything. I have a friend who can't take Advil - she gets a type of "high" off of it. If she takes just ONE ADVIL, she can't drive because she acts like she is drunk. Everyone is built differently, and therefore wil lreact differently to EVERYTHING. This includes legal and illegal substances. The recommended doesages are typically a safe "ballpark" - YMMV.
All companies 'low ball' the doses listed on the package. If Americans weren't such a litigious group, they wouldn't have to do this.
Everyone has different tolerance levels to everything. I have a friend who can't take Advil - she gets a type of "high" off of it. If she takes just ONE ADVIL, she can't drive because she acts like she is drunk. Everyone is built differently, and therefore wil lreact differently to EVERYTHING. This includes legal and illegal substances. The recommended doesages are typically a safe "ballpark" - YMMV.
All companies 'low ball' the doses listed on the package. If Americans weren't such a litigious group, they wouldn't have to do this.
keeponriding
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He's a junkie because he chooses to inject his steroids?? Just because you pop a pill doesnt mean you are any better. Many many many drugs are pill based. What do you think 1-AD is? You think its that much different than injectable steroids? I prefer injectables because they dont have to pass through the liver. You are clearly here just to flame, you are a sad waste of space.
mrstamiina
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keeponriding said:
You are way of topic bro........
You better read the title and first post again.
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UA_Iron
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Women abusing supplements?
Sounds highly unlikely, all I have is qualitative data to base this on, but how many more men do you see in supplement stores than women? How often do you you hear women touting the newest, latest, greatest supplement to lose weight? I certainly dont and I live in a dorm around 100's of girls, go to a gym where 1000's of girls go. Never once have I heard girls in the gym talking about something they are taking. This is my reason for believing supplement use amongst women way lower than that in men...which would most likely mean abuse of supplements is lower in women then men. Supplement abuse is probably the highest in High School males.
Growing off 1-AD?
Highly unlikely, I was taking 4 pills a day, noticed nothing. Maybe you are the exception and can grow off an amount less than the recommended but I doubt it. Your growth was probably due to an increase in protein, different training, mindset or another factor.
Regarding Ergopharm...
I remember reading in an article touting this product that Patrick Arnold stated the dosages are conservative and that many users have seen better results off a significantly higher dosage....implying that one should take more than the recommended to see good results...yet being legally correct as to not get sued for misuse of the product.
Water retention and 1-AD
Pat arnold states something to the effect of "many users report similar reults as using trenbolone-acetate." Laughable, haha. I didnt notice any water retention, but actually muscle hardness and leaner look. My experiences versus yours.
Ephedra
I think its safer than the government and health officials claim which leads me to believe that the ban on ephedra products is special interest based...pharmacuetical companies like SirFoxx stated.
Supplement Abuse.
well, if you're at this point you're at least somewhat health concerned because your goals are what the supplement promises. IMO better than abusing Little Debbie and Hostess foods like most Americans.
Sounds highly unlikely, all I have is qualitative data to base this on, but how many more men do you see in supplement stores than women? How often do you you hear women touting the newest, latest, greatest supplement to lose weight? I certainly dont and I live in a dorm around 100's of girls, go to a gym where 1000's of girls go. Never once have I heard girls in the gym talking about something they are taking. This is my reason for believing supplement use amongst women way lower than that in men...which would most likely mean abuse of supplements is lower in women then men. Supplement abuse is probably the highest in High School males.
Growing off 1-AD?
Highly unlikely, I was taking 4 pills a day, noticed nothing. Maybe you are the exception and can grow off an amount less than the recommended but I doubt it. Your growth was probably due to an increase in protein, different training, mindset or another factor.
Regarding Ergopharm...
I remember reading in an article touting this product that Patrick Arnold stated the dosages are conservative and that many users have seen better results off a significantly higher dosage....implying that one should take more than the recommended to see good results...yet being legally correct as to not get sued for misuse of the product.
Water retention and 1-AD
Pat arnold states something to the effect of "many users report similar reults as using trenbolone-acetate." Laughable, haha. I didnt notice any water retention, but actually muscle hardness and leaner look. My experiences versus yours.
Ephedra
I think its safer than the government and health officials claim which leads me to believe that the ban on ephedra products is special interest based...pharmacuetical companies like SirFoxx stated.
Supplement Abuse.
well, if you're at this point you're at least somewhat health concerned because your goals are what the supplement promises. IMO better than abusing Little Debbie and Hostess foods like most Americans.
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