Steroids For General Fitness

[Sean Cuig]

Thanks for the input.

I asked my source about minimum effective doses, and he suggested the following:

100mg Primo 50mgs Testosterone Propionate twice weekly for three weeks, then once weekly for four weeks.

He recommended against the anavar, because of liver toxicity. However, I was thinking of adding a small amount (10-20mg/day) because I already have it. I bought it because a friend kept raving about how great he feels on a mere 10mg/day

Keep in mind, Gentlemen, that I do not desire any weight gain, as it would be detrimental to my sports (cycling and MMA). I also seem to be rather sensitive to these meds because even the OTC prohormones I used reduced muscle soreness tremendously, and I was doing some heavy lifting.

Obviously, those are some very light doses but if it does the job...why swat flies with a sledge hammer?

I also have the luxury of dating a nurse, so I get to have my injections performed by a trained professional, lol.

So, I am going to give this light cycle a try, and I will post results.

Any advice on PCT ? I was planning to use some letrozole to kill some very mild gyno (from some crappy dirty 'prohormone') so I figured I'd just use it post cycle. I know that's not really the appropriate PCT but the fellas say it will pretty much destroy a very mild gyno like mine.

 

[wootoom]

No point in doing 100-200mg per week of Primo......there is no source talk also bro...i would stick to just Test for a first cycle man.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I have to disagree with the advice given so far.

If you want to test the waters and attempt to recover, primo is a great choice. Using test will make it very difficult to get your own T levels back at your age. TEST IS NOT A GREAT FIRST CYCLE. There, I said it. I know it's become a credo of sorts, but I believe it's wrong.

I'd suggest doing exactly what you intended, but following it with proper PCT. (Read the sticky about PCT for 2010. )

In time, you may want to consider HRT, but that is a very low dose of T -- 100 mgs a week. After which, you can still do a mild Primo cycle now and then.

 

[wootoom]

I have to disagree with the advice given so far.

If you want to test the waters and attempt to recover, primo is a great choice. Using test will make it very difficult to get your own T levels back at your age. TEST IS NOT A GREAT FIRST CYCLE. There, I said it. I know it's become a credo of sorts, but I believe it's wrong.

I'd suggest doing exactly what you intended, but following it with proper PCT. (Read the sticky about PCT for 2010. )

In time, you may want to consider HRT, but that is a very low dose of T -- 100 mgs a week. After which, you can still do a mild Primo cycle now and then.

Actually good point, i did a cycle of Anavar 60mg/ed for 12 weeks my first cycle...i agree on the dosages though..they are pretty low. What is your weight Sean?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually good point, i did a cycle of Anavar 60mg/ed for 12 weeks my first cycle...i agree on the dosages though..they are pretty low. What is your weight Sean?

Anavar is so damn weak, you need to get into liver stressing levels to get any results. 100mgs of primo, 50 mgs of test and 20 mgs of var is low, but if you train hard and eat and supplement correctly, you can make nice gains with minimal suppression.

 

[wootoom]

Anavar is so damn weak, you need to get into liver stressing levels to get any results. 100mgs of primo, 50 mgs of test and 20 mgs of var is low, but if you train hard and eat and supplement correctly, you can make nice gains with minimal suppression.

I got my base from anavar...no joke....one of the best cycles i ever did for gains..

 

[trinitybc]

I am in a very similar situation and went for all my tests, best thing I could do. I am thinking of now just going on the 250mg week Test cyp.

 

[Sean Cuig]

Started 20 mgs per diem oxandralone Aug 30

after 4 days I took a very hard fall and bent my thumb back to my wrist. I recovered extremely quickly. Very impressed with the effect

added 100mgs Primo and 50 mgs test prop on Sep 12

I feel great recovery very good. I'm doing LOTS of cardio. 8 hrs/week.

I weigh about 170. Trying to keep it there.

 

[Sean Cuig]

Well, I took my last shot a week ago.

In summary:

I think most people here are talking crazy when it comes to dosages.

With 100mgs testosterone propionate, 200mgs primobolan enanthate, and 140mgs anavar a week I was way too juiced. Turns out it was the anavar; it makes me very, very hyperactive. Once I cut it, the test/primo was very nice. However, two weeks in I got the dreaded shutdown.

Not too worried about it, I haven't even started the pct but I already feel it's coming back.

I've got clomid, arimidex tamoxifen and cabergoline for pct.

As for results: I gained a solid seven pounds doing endurance work. It was muscle I've had before, but I'm still impressed.

I do not feel my performance was particularly enhaced, but recovery certainly was. After a two hour trail ride I'd feel GREAT...and that's exactly what I was after.

I think real anavar (mine was Unigen Life Sciences brand) is extremely strong stuff. Especialy good for recovery.

However, my next cycle will prolly be Primo @ 200-400mgs a week. No test.

I don't mind the shutdown, either, I'm going to go get tested so I can get a prescrption.

All in all, if you're considering HRT or safer steroids like anavar and primofor anti aging, go for it, it works.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

At 40 and self medicating I would probably just shoot sustanon 250 once a week and if I could afford it like 2 iu gh every day with the weekends off.