steroids do not stop your height at 12

[finalabs]

whether your 8 10 12 16 18 20 steroids do not stop height growth

estrogen stops growth its why women are typicaly shorter

so if you take testosterone with anti estrogen, or halotestin or anavar ect it will make you taller look up research

anavar is given to children to promote height just like gh

 

[Excidium28]

Yea but 12 year olds juicing is wrong no matter what .. than the government would really start crackin down lol

But that is interesting ..

 

[Mavafanculo]

true to this extent: var has been the only steroid with studies supporting the fact that it will not prematurely fuse ephipyseal (sp?) plates. the estrogen theory is sound, but as far as I know unstudied with other anabolics.

If anyone has studies with steroids other than var, post up. I wouldnt bet my height on speculation. but thats just me

 

[b_light]

This and the fact that if you look at a bodybuilders skeleton prior to weight lifting and after it HAS to grow and adapt to the new muscle. Your body is made to adapt.

 

[shredded87]

Anavar, Ariginine + ornithine, has been used for years !

 

[musclemom]

true to this extent: Anavar - oxandrolone - has been the only steroid with studies supporting the fact that it will not prematurely fuse ephipyseal (sp?) plates. the estrogen theory is sound, but as far as I know unstudied with other anabolics.

If anyone has studies with steroids other than Anavar - oxandrolone - , post up. I wouldnt bet my height on speculation. but thats just me

A lot of the studies I could find in my brief search required professional credentials to access I did find this:

http://www.gghjournal.com/volume22/4/ab02.cfm

The thing is, the concept of administering an antiaromatase in conjunction with the steroids isn't without it's own problems (body composition, lipid problems, etc.). I don't understand the rush. So many good gains can be made naturally but people are so damn lazy and impatient anymore!

 

[Mavafanculo]

interesting thanks MM - but like yu said --jeezz for what

 

[shredded87]

A lot of the studies I could find in my brief search required professional credentials to access I did find this:

http://www.gghjournal.com/volume22/4/ab02.cfm

The thing is, the concept of administering an antiaromatase in conjunction with the steroids isn't without it's own problems (body composition, lipid problems, etc.). I don't understand the rush. So many good gains can be made naturally but people are so damn lazy and impatient anymore!

not to mention weakened mineral deposits and Bone frailty,,,,but some AI's actually increase bone density (dex) i believe

 

[bbkingpin]

Take your chances with your own kid and let us know in 10 years. How tall is Little Hercules, the Ukranian kid who was juicing at age 4 or 5 or 6? Why is Lee Priest so short? Lots of bb'ers who won titles at a young age are short. Why? You can say that it's easier to build a championship pyhsique if you're short (Arnold defies that explanation, Lou Ferrigno also), but I don't think there are that many short guys in general population compared to those competing. Maybe you are right, but unless you are basing this on a study you've read somewhere, why would you make these claims? Are you done growing? If so, why do you care enough to make careless and unfounded claims?

 

[DannoMight]

Take your chances with your own kid and let us know in 10 years. How tall is Little Hercules, the Ukranian kid who was juicing at age 4 or 5 or 6? Why is Lee Priest so short? Lots of bb'ers who won titles at a young age are short. Why? You can say that it's easier to build a championship pyhsique if you're short (Arnold defies that explanation, Lou Ferrigno also), but I don't think there are that many short guys in general population compared to those competing. Maybe you are right, but unless you are basing this on a study you've read somewhere, why would you make these claims? Are you done growing? If so, why do you care enough to make careless and unfounded claims?

I thought richard sandrak passed a few drug tests after speculation began.

 

[bbkingpin]

I thought richard sandrak passed a few drug tests after speculation began.

Possibly. But the documentary said that the kid passed polygraph but his manager insisted the father take a polygraph because he was the one telling the little kid what to eat/drink/digest and the father threatened to kill manager if he insisted on polygraph, manager dropped him, and father eventually went to jail for domestic violence. I am sure the kid would pass a drug test within weeks or months of his last dose if all he was taking were orals. What's the longest lasting oral for purposes of drug tests? Six weeks?
Question is whether the kid is normal height based on height of mom and dad.

 

[jagerbombme]

Possibly. But the documentary said that the kid passed polygraph but his manager insisted the father take a polygraph because he was the one telling the little kid what to eat/drink/digest and the father threatened to kill manager if he insisted on polygraph, manager dropped him, and father eventually went to jail for domestic violence. I am sure the kid would pass a drug test within weeks or months of his last dose if all he was taking were orals. What's the longest lasting oral for purposes of drug tests? Six weeks?
Question is whether the kid is normal height based on height of mom and dad.

let's think about this, the fucking kid was benching 225 at 6 years old, there aren't hormones in the body for these strength and muscle gains. this is a total case of daddy spiking kids shakes with some fucking dbol

 

[finalabs]

why do you care enough to make careless and unfounded claims?

its a 100% fact
dont call yourself "guru" with this nonsense its a fact everyone knows this

estrogen stops height
testosterone increases height ....if you dont know this then youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu look it up and you will see
its like saying testosterone makes you gain weight ... everyone knows it only because testosterone injections can cause estrogen rebound does it ever cause stop in growth
next you will say "steroids make you crazy and kill you" this board should not have uneducated responses that hAVE been passed down from the media.

 

[borris]

My first cycle was when I was 18, and have done 7-8 long cycles since then... I grew 3-4 inch's from 18-24

 

[needtogetaas]

Keep it clean!!

 

[jumpmaster82]

that's good to know. Now I have no reservations about getting my son on gear when he starts peewee football. Just kidding guys

 

[samoth]

whether your 8 10 12 16 18 20 steroids do not stop height growth

estrogen stops growth its why women are typicaly shorter

so if you take testosterone with anti estrogen, or halotestin or anavar ect it will make you taller look up research

anavar is given to children to promote height just like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) -

You don't seriously think things are really that simple, do you? lol

 

[chazk]

anavar and test is given to young boys with delayed puberty
or children wasted from burns.


anavar is used to stimulate growth in children growth as in " weightgain"
not height.
The height is controlled via the PG

 

[finalabs]

anavar is used for height not just weight gain

and there is zero evidence of testosterone stoping bone growth only estrogen thats just a fact

 

[LoneTree]

whether your 8 10 12 16 18 20 steroids do not stop height growth

estrogen stops growth its why women are typicaly shorter

so if you take testosterone with anti estrogen, or halotestin or anavar ect it will make you taller look up research

anavar is given to children to promote height just like gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - - growth hormone (somatropin) -

But why would any one with any IQ want to do that?
The only legit reason would be if someone has testosterone deficiency because of enzyme deficiencies.
I doubt it very much if there is any scientific study on that subject.
Why would any ethics committee allow a study to see effects of testosterone administration on normal, healthy kids?
In my language they say, if you don't want to go to a village, why ask for directions?
Most of the evidence that exists is from the indirect observations in kids who synthesize excess testosterone because of congenital abnormalities.

 

[Tatyana]

let's think about this, the fucking kid was benching 225 at 6 years old, there aren't hormones in the body for these strength and muscle gains. this is a total case of daddy spiking kids shakes with some fucking Dianabol - methandrostenolone -

Maybe, maybe not.

There is a long history of strongmen (and women) in the Ukraine.

There may be something up with the genetics, there are 'genetic freaks' that have been identified to have all sorts of interesting mutations or polymorphisms that allow for greater athletic prowess.

Varya Akulova is also Ukrainian and the world's strongest girl.

Her life story is quite interesting as well, and she is from a long line of strongmen and circus performers.

The did ultrasound on her muscles (her parents are Jehova Witnesses and wouldn't allow for a blood test for DNA analysis for myostatin mutations), and it was found that the alignment of her muscle fibers was such that more could be packed into a much smaller space.

There are all sorts of genetic, biochemical, physiological variations that confer different advantages to different people, naturally.

I know it really sucks when you want some skill, ability and you have to work hard when someone else doesn't, but that is how the genetic cookie crumbles.