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HansNZ said:
I also got an infection needing antibiotics.
After first infection I then heat sterilized the gear ran ran it through a .2 micron filter into new sterile vials. Guess what - very next injection resulted in infection again. Luckily I bought enough antiB's to avoid another hospital visit.
I am not some newbie learning how to inject and in the previous decade I have had a single case of cellulitis before that was minor and cleared on its own. No other problems ever. The bottle was from a professional and very respected remailer so not direct.
I don't know what caused it but this was more than enough to put me off. But I've used every product imaginable with no problem - oh yeah, not to mention the huge lumps that shit produces.
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cbeaks
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Even if I wouldn't get an infection I can't stand the huge lumps when I am injecting every day with short acting injectables. - cbeaks
HansNZ
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The only product of IP's that I have bought in the last year is some Fina. That has been fine, but all these posts have me wondering whether IP is being less cautious in manufacturing his products in recent times.
I have got a lump (but not an infection from his stuff). I injected it straight without filtering it and removing the BA. I haven't had a problem since I started being more cautious.
I have got a lump (but not an infection from his stuff). I injected it straight without filtering it and removing the BA. I haven't had a problem since I started being more cautious.
HansNZ said:
So how long would it take for it to go bad if baked? I recently baked all my IP and Mex gear a few wks back. Cause EVERYTIME i inject either of them i would run a fever and felt lke shit EVERYTIME i injected. And i baked it and now the IP I'm hiting doesn't bother me. But the Mexi gear when i hit that i don't get fevers... but a few hours later after injecting i get VERY TIRED and sleepy. And I can't actually work out those days. Well I quite taking the Brovel Prop that was making me feel that way. But what i don't understand is why after i baked it that it made me feel that way? Did it go bad when i baked it? I heard it was ok to bake cause it was just killing the bacteria and it still doens't change the structure. So you think my Prop went bad? Cause i got 3 fucking bottles of this shit and i can't take it cause I'm passed out 3 hrs after injecting.
Everyone says he says somthing diff.... he personally told me
"Draw and Inject" the amount of alcohol keeps it sterile, yet thats what makes it hurt so bad. I've treid several methods to sterilizing it. Mostly heating it in different ways. The only "real" way is to run it through a serynge filter into a class vial then baking it. But after buying those materials and doign the process its about the same cost as vet grade gear so mine as well go with that. Besides who wants to wait 2-3 months to get his shit!?!? His products do work great tho, im not gonna lie about that. To tell you the truth I rarley have worked out the past 2-1/2 weeks and have gained 10 pounds! no joke. Werid thing is, is each muscle that I inject blows up HUGE then stays that way. I seriously think y right cheek is larger now. It is in fact, my girl can vouche for that. Well regardless too much pain for me, new shipment of organon sust, and ttokkyo deca comin in... in through with IP. I am gonna order some xanax from him though. but no more injectables!
"Draw and Inject" the amount of alcohol keeps it sterile, yet thats what makes it hurt so bad. I've treid several methods to sterilizing it. Mostly heating it in different ways. The only "real" way is to run it through a serynge filter into a class vial then baking it. But after buying those materials and doign the process its about the same cost as vet grade gear so mine as well go with that. Besides who wants to wait 2-3 months to get his shit!?!? His products do work great tho, im not gonna lie about that. To tell you the truth I rarley have worked out the past 2-1/2 weeks and have gained 10 pounds! no joke. Werid thing is, is each muscle that I inject blows up HUGE then stays that way. I seriously think y right cheek is larger now. It is in fact, my girl can vouche for that. Well regardless too much pain for me, new shipment of organon sust, and ttokkyo deca comin in... in through with IP. I am gonna order some xanax from him though. but no more injectables!
HansNZ
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BigRed54 said:
IP's stuff is full of prservatives and alcohol. That is why it hurts when you inject it. I filter and boil a few doses at a time. This way the preservatives remain in the main container keeping it sterile.
I prepare a couple of weeks worth of injectables at a time, then load it into syringes. I usually dilute the gear with sesame oil, let the alcohol in the gear mix with and sterilise the sesame oil and then filter the mix. I boil the syringe I am about to inject just before I use it to sterilise it and allow the remaining alcohol to evaporate. No pain, no infections, no lumps this way.
Most of all i will debate/argue a thread for months if I think somebody is going to make a mistake that might hurt them or their health....I'm not trying to argue with you bro....just trying to get you to think. Its very true that I don't like IP or his gear and I think he is an asshole. I am not trying to cause him to lose business; I'm just trying to keep people from getting infections and NO results from their cycle. We are all brothers here and nobody wants to see anything bad happen to another person.....Its your life its your deciscion. that's just my .02
Well put Johnboy! Another option is to buy the filter needles.
Well put Johnboy! Another option is to buy the filter needles.
Latamier said:
Although 2 infections caused me to cut the cycle short after beginning. I will say that the gear seemed accruately dosed and I noticed the test very quickly as well as the theraputic effects of deca on my knee after the first week. I wouldn't say it produces NO results at all but results will be affected by pain, lumps, and the ability to deal with possible infection.
