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Immortal Juicer said:
How common are controlled deliveries today? It seems like the Feds have much bigger issues to address than some guy buying steroids from overseas where they are legal.

it's almost non-existent for domestic orders, but if customs intercepts a large order, only the kind that sources would get, then there is a great chance that they will do a controlled delivery. a search warrant for these cases will only take 2 days to draft up and get approval from a magistrate. they won't waste much time.

for smaller orders that get intercepted by customs, it's almost always a customs letter, not a controlled delivery unless you have things other than steroids in the package ie K, ghb, etc...
 
DEA showed at my door one morning, posing as FED EX. I was expecting the package, and the only thing that tipped me off was the fact that FED EX employees are ALWAYS in a hurry and this guy was real patient, just smiling and waiting for me to sign. His uniform was pressed and his hair was perfectly combed, and he didn't have the arms that those guys usually have. These things registered to me, subconsciously I believe, but I looked him in the eye and he smiled. At that point I didn't know he was DEA, but I knew something wasn't right. I asked him who sent it, and he examined the package and read the name (fake) and asked if I was expecting the package. I asked him why he would ask me a question like that, at which point he suggested that we 'step inside' for a moment as he flashed his badge. I denied him entry, and asked for his I.D., which he showed. His partner appeared from around the corner and the two of them explained to me the seriousness of the trouble that I was in. I asked them why I was in trouble, and they said for distributing drugs. I then faked a call to my attorney (I did not have one) and let them overhear me say that no, I did not have any ideas about what was happening, and yes, they had tried to force me to accept a package that I had yet to touch. I then hung up the phone and asked them if I was under arrest, and they said that they just wanted to ask a few questions. I asked if this was an attempt to interrogate me, and if so, on what grounds. Silence. I then asked them if they had any proof at all of what was in the package, and if they knew, why were they even asking me? Furthermore, I agreed that we could all wait for my attorney to arrive, and discuss the issue further at that point, but they would need to wait outside. They took the package and put iton the ground and OPENED IT RIGHT THERE. It was very incriminating. They asked me what the pills (X) were. How should I know? They asked what the amps (V) were. I said that I didn't know. Then, the lead guy just said, 'Well, our mistake, it looks like nothing. Here. Sorry to have bothered you." He tried to HAND ME THE PACKAGE. I told him it wasn't mine, and that I was gonna call my attorney again right now, could I please have both of their names and id's and so forth. Then they just took the package and left. On my way out of the apartment complex, there were eight sherrif's cars and four undercover cops watering plastic flowers in the foyer. I waved at them and told them that the plants were plastic. No shit. They actually laughed and nodded. It was the last I heard. No search warrant, nothing. That is the closest I have ever come.
 
Good Reference Materiel

Learn all this stuff before you have to!

http://www.aclu.org/pdf/bustcard.pdf

http://www.aclu.org/library/know_your_rights.pdf

Good, concise info.

I love the "bustcard" idea! Like whipping out your travel size,
"Criminal Activity for Dummies" reference card, that never leaves your side, doesnt a seem a bit suspicious!

bustcard.gif


But you do have the right to do so, and that is what matters.
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immortal, you are correct about the officers. undercover agents do NOT have to say they are cops when asked. not local, county or federal law enforcement requires that.
 
Shredded's intuition was incredible. Accept nothing, tell nothing, don't let them inand ask for an attorney immediately. They can't interview you after you invoke miranda. Urban Legend..ask a cop if he is a cop three times and they must tell you, or they can't arrest me without their hat on..ect..ect. They can get a warrant in an hour or less where I am. Be safe
 
Good Information!!

First a big thanks to Imortal Juicer for initiating this thread and also to NYC Defender for clearing the haze.

Another question though, if you look at volumes from a medical point, take test prop. for example, most patients recieve only 0.5 - 1.0 ml as little as per month; some every other week. If someone ordered a "normal" stacked cycle using say test, d-bol and fina and planned to run for 12-14 weeks were talking a minimum of 40ml and 120 -or so- pills. Now speaking in medical terms that is way more than any one person would need , or get from a normal prescription. What kind of volume constitutes personal use v.s. trafficking? Does it differ from state to state or is it based on the drug? or a standard volume for all AAS??

P.S. fkinshredded you had an angel on your shoulder that day Bro'!

Barbell265...
 
INSANE 1 said:
immortal, you are correct about the officers. undercover agents do NOT have to say they are cops when asked. not local, county or federal law enforcement requires that.


That has got to be one of the most DANGEROUS misconception about law enforcement. Someone is ignorant enough to believe that and then when the undercover says "fuck no, i'm not a cop. how do i know your not a fuckin cop?" Then they think believe 100% they are not a cop, and they are FUCKED. to say the least.

From my understanding, undercover agents, may take drugs, but only under extreme circumstances when their safety or the safety of the investigation is in jeapordy. They are strongly discouraged to do so, but if they are forced, it is permitted because they do not have criminal intent.
 
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