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Stay Safe, Bros. Important Info

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Stone Cold Says it best. DONT TRUST ANYONE! A few years back my friend got set upwith about $1200 by his mom's boyfriend. He was facing a DUI and they took the info for a reduced charge.. Good news though, last I heard he was dying of cancer. My friend ended up with ARD. Which is like probation.

Keep it on the down low
 
Immortal:

First of all, I share your views on my respect for police officers; I wear my NYPD baseball cap in respect to those who gave their lives in the line of duty, bravely saving others.

I also am glad to see you got at least a "sticky" out of this.

I am sorry that the original post disappeared, because the information you originally posted was just top-notch and, I still maintain, the subject of a magazine article.

And I guess I'm feeling just a bit lazy, because on the subject of being busted, I submitted my experience and view.

Dexter

About prayers. They are a highly personal thing. Mine go in part to being a citizen of the finest country on this planet, one whose democracy and constitution have stood the test of time and survived a Civil War. Good or bad aspects...no other place in general in my opinion comes anywhere close.

Yep. And the subject of envy and ridicule. And in the meantime, there are thousands upon thousands of people around the world standing in line daily outside of U.S. Embassies - for that opportunity to live in the United States.
 
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Immortal Juicer said:
The charges always get dropped for posession of what was in the package but they get you on what you have in your house. That is why you must have a clean place whenever you are expecting a delivery.

not true bro.

i always advocate keeping your house clean when you're expecting a delivery, so i agree with you on that.

i have seen from personal experiences where the evidence seized was from the original package and were the ONLY charges and did not get dropped.

signing or not signing makes no difference at all, so you may as well just sign it. if you feel better about it then don't sign it, but it's still in your posession and you're fucked. return to sender doesn't work . it's just an urban legend.

if you're smart you can think of ways to overcome these receiving problems, but chances are, if you're just a buyer and not a dealer you won't have the necessary capital to do so. then again, if you're just a buyer, there's much less risk involved that you'll get a controlled delivery unless you order large amounts from overseas w/ K or some other rec drug along with your roids.

smart suppliers can connive methods to avoid prosecution 100% due to lack of evidence even if their operations get busted...
 
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Dr.Evil said:


not true bro.

i always advocate keeping your house clean when you're expecting a delivery, so i agree with you on that.

i have seen from personal experiences where the evidence seized was from the original package and were the ONLY charges and did not get dropped.

signing or not signing makes no difference at all, so you may as well just sign it. if you feel better about it then don't sign it, but it's still in your posession and you're fucked. return to sender doesn't work . it's just an urban legend.

if you're smart you can think of ways to overcome these receiving problems, but chances are, if you're just a buyer and not a dealer you won't have the necessary capital to do so. then again, if you're just a buyer, there's much less risk involved that you'll get a controlled delivery unless you order large amounts from overseas w/ K or some other rec drug along with your roids.

smart suppliers can connive methods to avoid prosecution 100% due to lack of evidence even if their operations get busted...

They cannot prove you knew the contents of the package as long as you do not say or do anything which would be incriminating. What if someone who didnt like you, or another dealer trying to eliminate competition, placed an order and had it shipped to your address with your name, then tipped off law enforcement you were dealing and recieving packages frequently.

Similair to someone planting evidence to get someone busted. That is a very possible scenario, definately enough to provide reasonable doubt.

I agree, signing and all that return to sender shit is useless and just an myth probably from some MM2K from 1993.:D

The number one factor in a situation is self incrimination. If you say you did it, you just did their job for them! Keep your trap shut and make them decide if they should allocate their time, budget and resources to you, or any of the other 50 cocaine arrests made that week.

How did they make the charges stick in the cases you saw? I bet there were more factors that contributed to the conviction than simply recieving.

But if I'm wrong, I want to know why!!

Thanks bro, great post.
 
Well, Gentlemen

Having agreed with your comments and Dr. Evil's great posts, I'd say that there are actually a few of us around, but with a lot of guys living in a delusional, hyped sense of "getting the point," mainly from listening to people who don't know shit from shinola about the biz, offering all manner of crap advice about P.O. boxes and signing, et cetera, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

I've often asked myself, "Where the hell are the kindred spirits? Don't most people get the point?"

Except for a tight circle in which I communicate...to my surprise (even the 20 year old "mods") just...don't...get...it.

Dr. Evil, how many people willl even take the time to visit the URL you posted, let alone copy it for reference?

It is so weird to be asked, and to answer such fundamentally important questions, to some person who, for whatever freaking reason, became a mod on a board. I won't say "serious board," because there are few these days.

I guess it's due in part to this Costco and K-Mart style of advertising and open board posting and "approving" international (and domestic) sources and the need to get stuff without considering the right precautions and comprehending the consequences in the U.S. and Canada, particulary.

What's more, this is all so complex that the "How to" guides just don't cut it. Not for me, anyway.

I know how to stay safe now, in the U.S. and how to keep people safe there and in Canada. And that's from knowledge reading from serious (and laughably ignorant) people, watching how guys take falls, seeing people being narked on, having been "busted" myself, going "on vacation," and having worked from within the U.S. and overseas.

But I have no experience (or even real interest) in how to smuggle Mexican veterinery products across border, though. I like pharmaceuticals, made in people-oriented, government-controlled, clean labs, not questionable or "underground" shit, despite the marketing hype.

Dexter
 
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What about this scenario...

How about the scenario of the arean we are currently in. What sort of legal issues could arise from utilizing this very board to search for, find, verify with mods and ultimately order from a source found here? Would this fall into the catagory of entrapment where the individual may not have done it in "real time", but due to the annonymous nature of the internet he felt less risk? What if there are actual DEA agents, or what have you, right here on the board posing as sources, I AM IN NO WAY IMPLYING THAT THERE ARE, just playing devils advocate, what would be the case then?? Especially in the case of common individuals ordering 20-40ml's for personal use??

This is a question I would like to have an answer to for obvious reasons. In my state to the best of my knowldege it is a misdemeanor offense similar to assault or a DUI, OUI. If your dumb enough to run your beak and get yourself in trouble.

I'll be checking back...Barbell265
 
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Dexter [/i] am sorry that the original post disappeared said:
I've often asked myself, "Where the hell are the kindred spirits? Don't most people get the point?"

Except for tight circle in which I communicate...to my surprise (even the 20 year old "mods") just don't get it.

It is so weird to be asked, and to answer such fundamentally important questions, to some person who, for whatever freaking reason, became a mod on a board. I won't say "serious board," because there are few.

What's more, this is all so complex that the "How to" guides just don't cut it. Not for me, anyway. I know how to stay safe now, in the U.S. and how to keep people safe there and in Canada.

Dexter


Damn, bro. I'm sorry about deleting the first thread. It needed a better title because it kept on falling off the first page. There were mostly just some bumps and I forgot about your info.

I apologize.

I agree that its amazing the risks people take without even considering the consequences. Most people just do not like to think.

And you are exactly right about the how to guide's, which was not the intention of my post, not cutting it. When is comes down to it, anything in general, what matters is what YOU know, and knowing only what is written in a how to guide, is not truly knowing.

One scare was all I needed to realize I had 2 options. Get out, or get educated.
 
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