Starving/Can't lose fat on Test cycle

[Tkc0mand3r]

Hey guys, I'm 5'11' currently 215 lbs and anywhere from 14-16% bodyfat. I have been TRYING to cut fat for weeks now but only having moderate results. I have cycled with testosterone enanthate 500mg/week in the past as well as sustanon 500/week, I am now cutting and using it as a trial run because I want to compete in a show about a year from tomorrow. BUT I can't seem to lose the fat I want too. I've used clen and diet is always consistent. I started with 3200 calories for a few weeks and didnt see the fat lose I wanted, I am now at 2750 calories and am STARVING all day. I am currently on testosetone cyponiate 500/week to maintain my muscle mass as well as oxy elite pro twice a day because I've heard it helps control appetite. My protein is at 320grams. Workouts are great because they are after my first meal but with only 200ish grams of carbs a day and not in my last 2 meals I'm so hungry all afternoon/night. Should I just suck it up? I want to see the fat just melt like it does with other guys in contest prep. I'm aiming for 8-10% within the next 9 weeks. (I'm in my 3rd week of the 12 week test cycle)

ANY tips, critiques, would be so helpful. I want to see the difference, I'm not hard and tight and the top 2 abs are barely there.

If you want my EXACT diet, macros let me know.

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

OTHER QUESTIONS: Do I need to be in caloric defiict to actually lose fat while on test? Should I add food and add cardio (cardio is 30 mins post workout right now)? Should I add another compound/fat burner?

 

[auslifter90]

That's a lot of calories man even for your weight... I'd drop to 2500 and see if your weight moves for a week. Are you taking an AI? You may have lost fat but gained fluid. I find eating a few hundred u see maintenance gives me a bit of a recomp

 

[oxymoron]

Yes, give us more diet details... what are u exactly eating and when? Also how far into ur cycle are u? And what cardio are u doing? Aus is right, thats a good amount of calories. What is ur BMR?

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[Tkc0mand3r]

Ok heres an exact daily diet example (here and there I am switching foods, inevitably sometimes eating out but trying my best to match the macronutrients), I'm going to be very detailed since I really need the advice.

Wake up 10am - 1 oxy elite pro
10:45 -
2 whole eggs
10 egg whites with hot sauce
1 cup oats with cinnamon
1 apple
1 opti-men multivitamin, 4g fish oils, 2g glucosamine with msm, 1,000 iu vitamin d, 500mg vitamin c

Workout at 12 with hyperFX pre-workout
1 1/2 hours weights, 1/2 hour low intensity cardio

2:45 -
2 scoops optimum protein powder
1 banana
1/2 cup oats with cinnamon
1 tbsp honey

4:30 - 1 oxy elite pro

5:00 -
10 oz chicken breast with mrs. dash seasoning
1.5 cups brown rice with hot sauce
big bowl of spinach and spring mix with weldon farms zero calorie dressing

9:00 -
10 oz lean turkey (99/1) or chicken with mrs. dash seasoning
1 whole cucumber or salad

12:00 -
2 scoops optimum protein powder
2 tbsp natural peanut butter

Thats been my typical "perfect day" I just recently took out 400 calories worth of the carbs like I stated from the 4th meal. I just don't see how everyone could be THIS lethargic and hungry during contest prep, but if thats what I need so be it. Just want to make sure I'm doing this right because my weight has actually been going up a bit or maintaing since starting the cycle/diet (I have cheated here and there because I get so hungry)

What do you guys think? How can I make sure that these next 9 weeks I get into the at least 10% body fat range?

 

[shirlene29]

this should get moved to diet

if you're looking to cut that diet is a disaster

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

this should get moved to diet

if you're looking to cut that diet is a disaster

Yes looking to cut, the reason I posted here because I am currently doing a cycle of test 500mg/week which I thought maybe brings some difference to the diet to say a natural cutting?...I could be wrong, but thats why I am here. Also, could you help explain the disaster please? I was advised by someone to do this exact approach yet with even MORE carbs, I was told the test alone will "suck fat", stuff like that. Any advice would be much appreicated!

 

[shirlene29]

Ok heres an exact daily diet example (here and there I am switching foods, inevitably sometimes eating out but trying my best to match the macronutrients), I'm going to be very detailed since I really need the advice.

Wake up 10am - 1 oxy elite pro
10:45 -
2 whole eggs
10 egg whites with hot sauce
1 cup oats with cinnamon
1 apple
1 opti-men multivitamin, 4g fish oils, 2g glucosamine with msm, 1,000 iu vitamin d, 500mg vitamin c

Workout at 12 with hyperFX pre-workout
1 1/2 hours weights, 1/2 hour low intensity cardio

2:45 -
2 scoops optimum protein powder
1 banana
1/2 cup oats with cinnamon
1 tbsp honey

4:30 - 1 oxy elite pro

5:00 -
10 oz chicken breast with mrs. dash seasoning
1.5 cups brown rice with hot sauce
big bowl of spinach and spring mix with weldon farms zero calorie dressing

9:00 -
10 oz lean turkey (99/1) or chicken with mrs. dash seasoning
1 whole cucumber or salad

12:00 -
2 scoops optimum protein powder
2 tbsp natural peanut butter

Thats been my typical "perfect day" I just recently took out 400 calories worth of the carbs like I stated from the 4th meal. I just don't see how everyone could be THIS lethargic and hungry during contest prep, but if thats what I need so be it. Just want to make sure I'm doing this right because my weight has actually been going up a bit or maintaing since starting the cycle/diet (I have cheated here and there because I get so hungry)

What do you guys think? How can I make sure that these next 9 weeks I get into the at least 10% body fat range?

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Im not saying go no carb but the amount you're taking in is insane
and honey?

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

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Im not saying go no carb but the amount you're taking in is insane
and honey?

It's a post-workout shake, honey for some simple carbs post? I thought at least two fruits a day was a standard for fiber and micronutrient reasoning. I can drop the honey, and your saying to scale back even more on my complex carbs? I just think I'm going to be starving even more which is my problem lol but I want to hit this 10% mark. Would you guys suggest maybe adding in more meals and maybe not being so concerned with my macronutrients and calories for the day rather just eat clean sources of protein and some fats with little complex carbs in the morning? Thats how my friend dieted for his last NPC show but I figured it would be smarter for me to count calories, proteins, carbs and fats than to take that approach.

 

[simply dave]

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Im not saying go no carb but the amount you're taking in is insane
and honey?

I'm with Shirlene on this....especially the fruit. At 52 years of age, I went from 15% BF to 9% BF on Test E alone...but here's the rub...

I did it with a strict, regimented diet. I eliminated fruit, sugar, wheat. I consumed considerably less calories than you are, but I am considerably older. Regardless, I'd reduce your caloric intake and clean up your diet. Just my .02