Started 1st cycle.

[wanas]

Well bros,

had my 1st shot of sustanon 250 on friday ,was nervous as hell trying to jab myself for the 1st time but once i'd done it ,realised that its nothing to worry about at all and quite easy to do.

I injected into the side of my quad, felt a little bit wierd hours after but the next day and today ive got what feels like bruised lump inside my muscle ,its not to bad ,just have to walk with a little bit of a limp ,is this normal??

Thanx to all the bros that helped me to sort out my 1st cycle:-

10 weeks of 500mg ew
3 weeks of clomid 50mg ed

 

[nydj66]

Welcome to the dark side!

Pain the day after an injection is normal; especially with sust. Next time just stick with test-e and there'll be a lot less injection soreness. Also, I find I can tolerate the pain much better in the glute than in the quad. If it gets real sore ibuprophin will help.

 

[MichaelScott]

Welcome to the dark side!

Pain the day after an injection is normal; especially with sust. Next time just stick with test-e and there'll be a lot less injection soreness. Also, I find I can tolerate the pain much better in the glute than in the quad. If it gets real sore ibuprophin will help.

how does test cyp compare to test e in terms of injection soreness?

 

[Mac173]

how does test cyp compare to test e in terms of injection soreness?

They'd be the same.

 

[Pump2356]

stick with cyp if your american and love this country haha!

 

[nydj66]

There is virtually no difference between cyp and enanthate. Buy which ever one is least expensive from your source.

 

[wanas]

Welcome to the dark side!

Pain the day after an injection is normal; especially with sust. Next time just stick with test-e and there'll be a lot less injection soreness. Also, I find I can tolerate the pain much better in the glute than in the quad. If it gets real sore ibuprophin will help.

Thanx for the info bro, the soreness is not bad but its noticable ,its something that i can put up with for another 19 shots!!!

 

[blut wump]

Try shooting the hip muscle, also known as ventrogluteal or medial glute. Delts come in second for me. Quads are way down the list.

 

[needtogetaas]

Well bros,

had my 1st shot of sustanon 250 on friday ,was nervous as hell trying to jab myself for the 1st time but once i'd done it ,realised that its nothing to worry about at all and quite easy to do.

I injected into the side of my quad, felt a little bit wierd hours after but the next day and today ive got what feels like bruised lump inside my muscle ,its not to bad ,just have to walk with a little bit of a limp ,is this normal??

Thanx to all the bros that helped me to sort out my 1st cycle:-

10 weeks of 500mg ew
3 weeks of clomid 50mg ed

no hcg during cycle????your just going to jump right into 50mg of clomid ed seems thats the dose that the sides really fuck with people

 

[wanas]

no hcg during cycle????your just going to jump right into 50mg of clomid ed seems thats the dose that the sides really fuck with people

What sides r we talking about?
, Im very new to this and any info is always appreciated

 

[digimon7068]

prop pain. . .embrace it

 

[advanced-stealth]

Glad to hear your first shot went smooth.

 

[needtogetaas]

What sides r we talking about?
, Im very new to this and any info is always appreciated

sides like hot flashes, nausea, vomiting, breast tenderness, dizziness, lightheadedness, headache, or mood changes,stomach or pelvic pain, bloating, or blurred vision.......just to name a few....

 

[blut wump]

What sides r we talking about?
, Im very new to this and any info is always appreciated

50 mg ED for 3 to 4 weeks should be just fine. Start it about two weeks after your last shot. Give some thought to HCG and using an AI during PCT.

Old protocols started with 300mg and, even then, most people had no sides. Still, some people will still have emotional sides at 50mg and one can't utterly rule out the possibility of transient vision tracers if you're sensitive. The important thing is to be prepared. You'll be hard-pressed to find something more effective than clomid.

 

[needtogetaas]

50 mg ED for 3 to 4 weeks should be just fine. Start it about two weeks after your last shot. Give some thought to HCG and using an AI during PCT.

Old protocols started with 300mg and, even then, most people had no sides. Still, some people will still have emotional sides at 50mg and one can't utterly rule out the possibility of transient vision tracers if you're sensitive. The important thing is to be prepared. You'll be hard-pressed to find something more effective than clomid.

ppppffffffft hard pressed my ass.....dermacrin bro dermacrin http://www.primordialperformance.com/

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Welcome aboard ,and stop looking at the mirror.
Brad.

 

[wanas]

Thanks for all your support bro's.

looking forward to sharing more info wit ya!!

 

[blut wump]

I look towards seeing your first dermacrine PCT needto.

BTW, if I stop posting over the next three or four weeks of taking clomid, you might be at liberty to deduce that I came down with death, which is a common possible side-effect of many drugs.

What's the news of ETA on derma sustain, needto?

 

[nisser512]

ppppffffffft hard pressed my ass.....dermacrin bro dermacrin http://www.primordialperformance.com/

lol

 

[needtogetaas]

I look towards seeing your first dermacrine PCT needto.

BTW, if I stop posting over the next three or four weeks of taking clomid, you might be at liberty to deduce that I came down with death, which is a common possible side-effect of many drugs.

What's the news of ETA on derma sustain, needto?

derma sustain is already available bro check the site....eta on all orders is 2-3 days

 

[needtogetaas]

lol

heyaaaaa that was kind of funny.

 

[Baka ka!!]

Try taking the ibuprophin an hour before injecting, add a little heat and massage lightly after injecting. I'm a newbie -- haven't even started my first cycle yet, although I do have some experience with oral Winstrol -- so take whatever I have to say with a grain of salt. That's just something I read on another forum.

 

[Nelson Montana]

3 quick points.

1. cyp and enhantate are so similar that when I pick up my HRT script, sometimes it's cyp and sometimes it's enhantate. It's just a base.

2. For the life of me I don't undrstand why someone would want to inject into an area with nerves, veins and muscle over a fleshy area like the glute. I've never seen a doctor inject into a quad.

3. Clomid sucks IMO. It works for some, not for others but even then it's known for having nasty sides. 50 mgs for 3 weeks is overkill for those dosages and may not be necessary at all.

Dermacrine may be all you need. Add this in to help with other aspects of recovery: http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=110&cat=0&page=1

 

[Papa Lion]

50 mg ED for 3 to 4 weeks should be just fine. Start it about two weeks after your last shot. Give some thought to HCG and using an AI during PCT.

Old protocols started with 300mg and, even then, most people had no sides. Still, some people will still have emotional sides at 50mg and one can't utterly rule out the possibility of transient vision tracers if you're sensitive. The important thing is to be prepared. You'll be hard-pressed to find something more effective than clomid.

^^^ agreed 100%!!!

personally I don't trust the dermacrine stuff... I don't get a good vibe from it... it seems there are only a handful of people pushin it and they push it because it's their investment!! until I see some of the big boys upstairs telling me clomid/nolva is a waste of time and to go with derma I'm gonna stick with yhe word of folks I trust on that issue!!


~Papa Lion~

 

[Nelson Montana]

^^^ agreed 100%!!!

personally I don't trust the dermacrine stuff... I don't get a good vibe from it... it seems there are only a handful of people pushin it and they push it because it's their investment!! until I see some of the big boys upstairs telling me clomid/nolva is a waste of time and to go with derma I'm gonna stick with yhe word of folks I trust on that issue!!


~Papa Lion~

I have no personal connection with Dermacrine -- only what I see and what I've heard.

I do know that POST CYCLE has helped a lot of people recover -- usually in conjunction with drug therapy, but that's because the guys did heavy cycles.

For a light cycle, a lot of drug PC ins;t necessary. If I were to recomend a drug it'd be a-dex. And I'd still suggest some POST CYCLE.

The big boys have spoken out against clomid. Lot's of guys don't use it and even Dan Duchaine admitted that Nolva kinda sucked.

 

[wanas]

So many different opinions from so many experienced people, my god this is turning into a mine field...lol