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Some basic behavioral psychology for ya

Lestat

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I learned this formally in a class in college and use it in my daily life. I assume its common sense for many, but I'll spell it out here just in case.

You can use any activity that you voluntarily do often to reinforce behavior that you voluntarily do less often. In other words, you can use a high frequency behavior to increase the occurence of a low frequency behavior. Those of you who studied behavior psychology would know this as the Premack Principle, named after the professor who described it.

Try listing things that you generally won't do voluntarily unless you absolutely have to. I'll do a sample list:

Clean bathroom
Go running
Eat dinner at home
Fold laundry
Go to bed by 11pm

Now, if I make a rule, and most importantly ENFORCE that rule upon myself, I can guarentee that I'll increase the frequency with which I do those activities.

How? Well lets start by listing 5 activities that I'll do with frequency voluntarily (hint: these should be things you really enjoy and look forward to)

Smoke up!
Masturbate
Surf the internets
Go out for coffee
Read books


Ok so now that you have you lists, rank them. Lets say mine are ranked appropriately. Here is what the rule would look like.

"I will not allow myself to smoke a bowl, unless I go running first"

"I will not masturbate today unless I've folded all my laundry"

"I will not go out for coffee unless I eat dinner in"

See how simple that is? Now comes the tough part, you MUST enforce this.

You can't allow yourself to engage in the high frequency behaviors unless you engage in the prerequisit low frequency activity.

The program is only as good as you make it. Try it out sometime and I think you'll find that a really simple thing can have dramatic changes in your personal behavior. I literally use this daily.
 
superdave said:
lol @ not jerking off until laundry is folded lololol
lmao... but still, I'm ruminating at work and due to pulling all nighter my mind wanders... but somewhere in the basic text of said profound statement above lies the formula for universal coexistance...
 
ariel347 said:
lmao... but still, I'm ruminating at work and due to pulling all nighter my mind wanders... but somewhere in the basic text of said profound statement above lies the formula for universal coexistance...

ying yang
 
Lestat said:
I learned this formally in a class in college and use it in my daily life. I assume its common sense for many, but I'll spell it out here just in case.

You can use any activity that you voluntarily do often to reinforce behavior that you voluntarily do less often. In other words, you can use a high frequency behavior to increase the occurence of a low frequency behavior. Those of you who studied behavior psychology would know this as the Premack Principle, named after the professor who described it.

Try listing things that you generally won't do voluntarily unless you absolutely have to. I'll do a sample list:

Clean bathroom
Go running
Eat dinner at home
Fold laundry
Go to bed by 11pm

Now, if I make a rule, and most importantly ENFORCE that rule upon myself, I can guarentee that I'll increase the frequency with which I do those activities.

How? Well lets start by listing 5 activities that I'll do with frequency voluntarily (hint: these should be things you really enjoy and look forward to)

Smoke a pole
Masturbate
Surf the internets
Go out for coffee
Read books


Ok so now that you have you lists, rank them. Lets say mine are ranked appropriately. Here is what the rule would look like.

"I will not allow myself to smoke a pole, unless I go running first"

"I will not masturbate today unless I've folded all my laundry"

"I will not go out for coffee unless I eat dinner in"

See how simple that is? Now comes the tough part, you MUST enforce this.

You can't allow yourself to engage in the high frequency behaviors unless you engage in the prerequisit low frequency activity.

The program is only as good as you make it. Try it out sometime and I think you'll find that a really simple thing can have dramatic changes in your personal behavior. I literally use this daily.

:rainbow:
 
i do what i gots to do so i can do what i wants to do. i live by that and it works.
i hate the mundane as much as the next guy and i especially despise detail work,
but i do it. self discipline is crucial to success and well being.

the reward system lestast laid out is excellent. i have similar little tricks, but i put
no restrictions on masturbation........ ( auto arousal is a sacred act in my book )
 
better suggestion: set goals, and spend at least 10 mins a day working towards it.

your system just builds discipline - they've been doign that in the army for decades. It doesn't make your life better tho. Setting and working towards goals do.

r
 
Razorguns said:
better suggestion: set goals, and spend at least 10 mins a day working towards it.

your system just builds discipline - they've been doign that in the army for decades. It doesn't make your life better tho. Setting and working towards goals do.

r

working towards and having discipline, doesn't make your life better?
discipline is a key component to a good life. setting and working
towards goals are VERY important, but what good is a ferrari without
a good set of brakes? :)
 
the_alcatraz said:
ying yang
Thats exactly what I was thinking...
Couldn't get at it, it was digging at me..
Traz you have mad skills brah :chomp:
good thread though... and very true.
 
hahahaha!!! I love it. Sounds like you're being a good daddy to yourself!

Even little children can be nurtured into this way of thinking. Great tool for life.

Right now, the big one at our house is "You cannont ride your scooter until you do your homework" Homework is writing the numbers 1-10 10x and ABC's on a chart!

So, anyway, I should apply it to myself more often! It's called self discipline! lol
 
Razorguns said:
better suggestion: set goals, and spend at least 10 mins a day working towards it.

your system just builds discipline - they've been doign that in the army for decades. It doesn't make your life better tho. Setting and working towards goals do.

r
RG, Same thing different name :artist:

BTW, Lestat, nice behaviors. :lmao:
 
Razorguns said:
better suggestion: set goals, and spend at least 10 mins a day working towards it.

your system just builds discipline - they've been doign that in the army for decades. It doesn't make your life better tho. Setting and working towards goals do.

r
uhhhhh

same thing dude, you don't realize that?
 
superdave said:
lol @ not jerking off until laundry is folded lololol


My sig! I CALL IT!
 
What if you are so fucked up that you won't reward yourself with the pleasurable activities because you *just didn't* do those pre-requisite undesirable activities. :worried:

Yea... i spent a lotta time fucked up. :(
 
lol...this thread delivered.

and ...


thanks lestat, for the info. I actually have a degree in psych and don't think I ever studied that pricipal.
 
heatherrae said:
lol...this thread delivered.

and ...


thanks lestat, for the info. I actually have a degree in psych and don't think I ever studied that pricipal.
I took a lot of behavioral psych as well as bio psych so I covered almost everything in those areas. I remember we had class exercises to test this and those who enforced it the best did things like got more studying done and better grades. Pretty simple yet very effective.
 
i never studied psych but really like that...

i have a problem w/delayed gratification..and discipline in general..i can only do things that i want to do.. so i get creative and lie to myself about how i really wanna clean the bathrooms today..

i htink my parents used this trick too much.. i'm forever rebellious!
 
titeNtonedN08 said:
i never studied psych but really like that...

i have a problem w/delayed gratification..and discipline in general..i can only do things that i want to do.. so i get creative and lie to myself about how i really wanna clean the bathrooms today..

i htink my parents used this trick too much.. i'm forever rebellious!


will you marry me?



i am currently married, but this is a mere technicality
 
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