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One might garner sympathy but it also carries the stigma of being damaged, and mentally unbalanced, and its shameful. Its a terrible, mean, hateful thing to do to someone. He knew what he was doing, he chose to do it along with everything else he chose over and over again to use as a weapon to hurt me on purpose. I know enough to know he is dangerous and he seriously injured her. I don't want to rehabilitate him; I want nothing to do with him. I'm no Florence Nightingale.

QT - I don't consider victim a dirty word, and that's what I consider myself when I think about my interactions with him. I was manipulated, I wasn't able to choose freely with all the facts. I should have done a background check, but I didn't, that was my fault but I was definitely manipulated and deceived. I wasn't referring to you, in fact I could never understand how everything with you guys was fine and he treated me so terribly..but it is what it is.

In the mugshots I edited out his name. I told Ledhead, a female member who I won't name unless she wants me to, and bigpokey before I posted the report, name edited out. I later told superdave and miplank (name edited out) when they asked and then stopped responding when people asked me for them. I don't remember sending anything to anyone else, I just made it sound like I did. I might have sent it to more, but it wasn't like I was sending them to everyone, I just made it sound like I did.

I know I was wrong, I've admitted that a million times but I can say w/o conviction that from my experience with him he is evil. I will judge him as so and I will carry whatever consequences my higher power hands down to me for judging him in that manner. If you guys think I should be banned for breaking the rules to be fair, then I will take whatever punishment you think I deserve. I thought by not posting them on the forum I was following the rules. I wasn't intentionally breaking rules, but I can acknowledge now that I did, and I'm sorry.
 
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My squadron we lost 8 of 18 aircraft. 10 men. First one dies you die too, but there will be others. You can count on that. You gotta let him go. You gotta let him go.
 
I don't consider victim a dirty word either but I do believe we are given free will. With that free will we can make choices some good some bad but in the end you make a choice. If you make a bad choice and you don't learn from it you will repeat it.
 
Oh ok, i never really have used it or had to....this is getting out of hand...if this keeps on going on the outcome is going to be very bad

He is on ignore! Lol, he goes around it by starting threads with my name on it, which I have ignored. My mistake was posting in this thread saying how creepy I thought it was.
 
I don't consider victim a dirty word either but I do believe we are given free will. With that free will we can make choices some good some bad but in the end you make a choice. If you make a bad choice and you don't learn from it you will repeat it.

Yes, it was a bad choice and I think I learned my lesson. Time will tell I suppose. Thank you.
 
get your butts above hard deck
 
I knew this wouldn't go well. Yes, I am so smitten by java that I'm blind.

You two have been going at each other for over a year and it has been pretty nasty at times on both parts. I don't know why there are still apparently feelings there, but there must be in order for it to be like this.

I do try to be fair. Unfortunately that means when I have to judge I am sometimes hated by both parties for at least a period of time. Like I've said, modding here is not an easy job. Anyone want to apply?


Here let me help you out because it appears you don't know the entire story or just choose not to know or you are holding some stereotype grudge that is blinding your judgement. He put here personal info out there first, then she retaliated by putting his personal info out there. They were both wrong and even at that time. He has been relentlessly stalking her lately, she asked him to stop, he would not stop. SQT warned him to stop, again, he would not stop.. Hence, your "tit for tat" theory is refuted.



According to your "rules" he should be banned, that is the bottom-line and the end-of-the-story. SQT asked me to cease fire with him. I lived up to my end of the bargain by not replying to any of his posts nor even mentioning his name on the forum and so did Cindy, which I find absurd because the "one" thread was about Cindy and I, and he felt so compelled to insult us because his fragile ego has been shattered. Therefore, that refutes your claim of him not being a crybaby. If he does not care about her, then why did he post in that thread, why would he start threads about her? Why is every other word that he types is "Cindy"? Why was he crying over her the other night like a little bitch? I asked SQT to junk that thread in order to prevent further conflict, that goes to show you how much I really give a fuck about him. I could have easily went to war with him but I opted to disregard him, and that is about all he is worth, to be "disregarded." All he did was find a different avenue to harass Cindy, and he did without regard to the rules and the warnings. We abided by the forum rules, he did not, he blatantly disobeyed a mod's directive after a stern warning. It appears, you arbitrarily decide who should be banned and who does not instead of going by the forum protocol. Insinuating Cindy is equally to blame at this juncture is ridiculous, anyone who has the reading comprehension of 1st grade kid would be able to instantly see he is the culprit, and a psychotic wack-job, and should be automatically banned without hesitation.


There is a difference between taking a potshot at someone here and there, and putting someone's name in "one inch bold letters" for the world to see, meaning he is deliberately and openly stalking her in case you can't discern that? She never started a thread about his criminal record nor did she use his real name, he constantly starts threads about her and uses her name. All he had to do was ignore her post about his "criminal record" because she did not produce actual "evidence." Consequently, his guilty conscious took over and made his own situation worse. If I was Him (and I am glad I am not) I would have told her to show proof about my criminal record in order to bait her to violate the rules, but he is too stupid and his whole identity depends on what people from a roid site think of him, he played himself, yeah, he totally played himself. As far as I knew Cindy could have been lying because she never posted any "primary documents" about him. However, he openly admitted he did the crime. So, do actually believe what people say about other people without them producing evidence? If you want to go by the rules, she never posted any "real documents" about him on an "open forum." I told Cindy she was wrong about a few things and to stop dealing with him, and leave him alone, and she has, yeah she has. You can speculate all you want about her indirectly taking potshots at him on open forum, you have no proof, your argument holds no water. SQT can say all she wants about Cindy telling his business outside of this site, that is irrelevant to the rules of this site. There is tons of proof he has been stalking her since SQT implemented that gag order, he is violating the rules. He is unequivocally the culprit since SQT handed down the warnings, and you are justifying his mischievous behavior by making a comparison to what happened in the wrong time frame.

Start from the time SQT got involved, you will come to the shocking conclusion he is on a mass stalking spree and Cindy is pretty much blameless. In all fairness, she has not always been blameless, but since SQT got involved she stopped, he has not. Therefore, you are failing to reconize the situation for what it really is at this point and time, and you are refusing to reprimand him for his flagrant violations of the forum rules. I have been insulted 1,000 times by different females on this board, 90% of the time I laughed about it. He has to retaliate against a defenseless female because he is nothing but a pussy, and this site is the only place in the world where his voice is heard, and all you are doing is enabling and re-enforcing him to be the sociopath that he really is by making absurd assertions without collecting all the facts.



As for getting banned, if JG gets banned he will slice his wrists, because this all he has in life. It don't matter to me if you ban me for writing this post, I am practically daring you to ban me, lol.. All I will do is scoff at you and walk away like I was never a member of this site. Ah! Ha!
 
Here let me help you out because it appears you don't know the entire story or just choose not to know or you are holding some stereotype grudge that is blinding your judgement. He put here personal info out there first, then she retaliated by putting his personal info out there. They were both wrong and even at that time. He has been relentlessly stalking her lately, she asked him to stop, he would not stop. SQT warned him to stop, again, he would not stop.. Hence, your "tit for tat" theory is refuted.



According to your "rules" he should be banned, that is the bottom-line and the end-of-the-story. SQT asked me to cease fire with him. I lived up to my end of the bargain by not replying to any of his posts nor even mentioning his name on the forum and so did Cindy, which I find absurd because the "one" thread was about Cindy and I, and he felt so compelled to insult us because his fragile ego has been shattered. Therefore, that refutes your claim of him not being a crybaby. If he does not care about her, then why did he post in that thread, why would he start threads about her? Why is every other word that he types is "Cindy"? Why was he crying over her the other night like a little bitch? I asked SQT to junk that thread in order to prevent further conflict, that goes to show you how much I really give a fuck about him. I could have easily went to war with him but I opted to disregard him, and that is about all he is worth, to be "disregarded." All he did was find a different avenue to harass Cindy, and he did without regard to the rules and the warnings. We abided by the forum rules, he did not, he blatantly disobeyed a mod's directive after a stern warning. It appears, you arbitrarily decide who should be banned and who does not instead of going by the forum protocol. Insinuating Cindy is equally to blame at this juncture is ridiculous, anyone who has the reading comprehension of 1st grade kid would be able to instantly see he is the culprit, and a psychotic wack-job, and should be automatically banned without hesitation.


There is a difference between taking a potshot at someone here and there, and putting someone's name in "one inch bold letters" for the world to see, meaning he is deliberately and openly stalking her in case you can't discern that? She never started a thread about his criminal record nor did she use his real name, he constantly starts threads about her and uses her name. All he had to do was ignore her post about his "criminal record" because she did not produce actual "evidence." Consequently, his guilty conscious took over and made his own situation worse. If I was Him (and I am glad I am not) I would have told her to show proof about my criminal record in order to bait her to violate the rules, but he is too stupid and his whole identity depends on what people from a roid site think of him, he played himself, yeah, he totally played himself. As far as I knew Cindy could have been lying because she never posted any "primary documents" about him. However, he openly admitted he did the crime. So, do actually believe what people say about other people without them producing evidence? If you want to go by the rules, she never posted any "real documents" about him on an "open forum." I told Cindy she was wrong about a few things and to stop dealing with him, and leave him alone, and she has, yeah she has. You can speculate all you want about her indirectly taking potshots at him on open forum, you have no proof, your argument holds no water. SQT can say all she wants about Cindy telling his business outside of this site, that is irrelevant to the rules of this site. There is tons of proof he has been stalking her since SQT implemented that gag order, he is violating the rules. He is unequivocally the culprit since SQT handed down the warnings, and you are justifying his mischievous behavior by making a comparison to what happened in the wrong time frame.

Start from the time SQT got involved, you will come to the shocking conclusion he is on a mass stalking spree and Cindy is pretty much blameless. In all fairness, she has not always been blameless, but since SQT got involved she stopped, he has not. Therefore, you are failing to reconize the situation for what it really is at this point and time, and you are refusing to reprimand him for his flagrant violations of the forum rules. I have been insulted 1,000 times by different females on this board, 90% of the time I laughed about it. He has to retaliate against a defenseless female because he is nothing but a pussy, and this site is the only place in the world where his voice is heard, and all you are doing is enabling and re-enforcing him to be the sociopath that he really is by making absurd assertions without collecting all the facts.



As for getting banned, if JG gets banned he will slice his wrists, because this all he has in life. It don't matter to me if you ban me for writing this post, I am practically daring you to ban me, lol.. All I will do is scoff at you and walk away like I was never a member of this site. Ah! Ha!


What a fucking waste of time
 
Ledhead just for the record CEO knows pretty much everything I did as I communicated it with him when it was going on. I would say you were a total stand up with how you acted after I asked you to stop you were cool as hell. Yes I did notice Cindy making an effort and I had been trying to make an effort to calm this all down CEO knows that. He also sees and all the deleted posts that you can't access and so do I. I'd love for this to all just chill out for a second that's all I have been trying to do. I never intened to perma ban him just a time out.
 
totw & totyear

can we please keep comments to a few sentences, led that was way to long
 
Here let me help you out because it appears you don't know the entire story or just choose not to know or you are holding some stereotype grudge that is blinding your judgement. He put here personal info out there first, then she retaliated by putting his personal info out there. They were both wrong and even at that time. He has been relentlessly stalking her lately, she asked him to stop, he would not stop. SQT warned him to stop, again, he would not stop.. Hence, your "tit for tat" theory is refuted.



According to your "rules" he should be banned, that is the bottom-line and the end-of-the-story. SQT asked me to cease fire with him. I lived up to my end of the bargain by not replying to any of his posts nor even mentioning his name on the forum and so did Cindy, which I find absurd because the "one" thread was about Cindy and I, and he felt so compelled to insult us because his fragile ego has been shattered. Therefore, that refutes your claim of him not being a crybaby. If he does not care about her, then why did he post in that thread, why would he start threads about her? Why is every other word that he types is "Cindy"? Why was he crying over her the other night like a little bitch? I asked SQT to junk that thread in order to prevent further conflict, that goes to show you how much I really give a fuck about him. I could have easily went to war with him but I opted to disregard him, and that is about all he is worth, to be "disregarded." All he did was find a different avenue to harass Cindy, and he did without regard to the rules and the warnings. We abided by the forum rules, he did not, he blatantly disobeyed a mod's directive after a stern warning. It appears, you arbitrarily decide who should be banned and who does not instead of going by the forum protocol. Insinuating Cindy is equally to blame at this juncture is ridiculous, anyone who has the reading comprehension of 1st grade kid would be able to instantly see he is the culprit, and a psychotic wack-job, and should be automatically banned without hesitation.


There is a difference between taking a potshot at someone here and there, and putting someone's name in "one inch bold letters" for the world to see, meaning he is deliberately and openly stalking her in case you can't discern that? She never started a thread about his criminal record nor did she use his real name, he constantly starts threads about her and uses her name. All he had to do was ignore her post about his "criminal record" because she did not produce actual "evidence." Consequently, his guilty conscious took over and made his own situation worse. If I was Him (and I am glad I am not) I would have told her to show proof about my criminal record in order to bait her to violate the rules, but he is too stupid and his whole identity depends on what people from a roid site think of him, he played himself, yeah, he totally played himself. As far as I knew Cindy could have been lying because she never posted any "primary documents" about him. However, he openly admitted he did the crime. So, do actually believe what people say about other people without them producing evidence? If you want to go by the rules, she never posted any "real documents" about him on an "open forum." I told Cindy she was wrong about a few things and to stop dealing with him, and leave him alone, and she has, yeah she has. You can speculate all you want about her indirectly taking potshots at him on open forum, you have no proof, your argument holds no water. SQT can say all she wants about Cindy telling his business outside of this site, that is irrelevant to the rules of this site. There is tons of proof he has been stalking her since SQT implemented that gag order, he is violating the rules. He is unequivocally the culprit since SQT handed down the warnings, and you are justifying his mischievous behavior by making a comparison to what happened in the wrong time frame.

Start from the time SQT got involved, you will come to the shocking conclusion he is on a mass stalking spree and Cindy is pretty much blameless. In all fairness, she has not always been blameless, but since SQT got involved she stopped, he has not. Therefore, you are failing to reconize the situation for what it really is at this point and time, and you are refusing to reprimand him for his flagrant violations of the forum rules. I have been insulted 1,000 times by different females on this board, 90% of the time I laughed about it. He has to retaliate against a defenseless female because he is nothing but a pussy, and this site is the only place in the world where his voice is heard, and all you are doing is enabling and re-enforcing him to be the sociopath that he really is by making absurd assertions without collecting all the facts.



As for getting banned, if JG gets banned he will slice his wrists, because this all he has in life. It don't matter to me if you ban me for writing this post, I am practically daring you to ban me, lol.. All I will do is scoff at you and walk away like I was never a member of this site. Ah! Ha!

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in other words...tl;dr :supercool

I'll decide if I want to read this bullshit later. Maybe I can squeeze it in by the time his 24 hour timeout runs out.
 
Here let me help you out because it appears you don't know the entire story or just choose not to know or you are holding some stereotype grudge that is blinding your judgement. He put here personal info out there first, then she retaliated by putting his personal info out there. They were both wrong and even at that time. He has been relentlessly stalking her lately, she asked him to stop, he would not stop. SQT warned him to stop, again, he would not stop.. Hence, your "tit for tat" theory is refuted.



According to your "rules" he should be banned, that is the bottom-line and the end-of-the-story. SQT asked me to cease fire with him. I lived up to my end of the bargain by not replying to any of his posts nor even mentioning his name on the forum and so did Cindy, which I find absurd because the "one" thread was about Cindy and I, and he felt so compelled to insult us because his fragile ego has been shattered. Therefore, that refutes your claim of him not being a crybaby. If he does not care about her, then why did he post in that thread, why would he start threads about her? Why is every other word that he types is "Cindy"? Why was he crying over her the other night like a little bitch? I asked SQT to junk that thread in order to prevent further conflict, that goes to show you how much I really give a fuck about him. I could have easily went to war with him but I opted to disregard him, and that is about all he is worth, to be "disregarded." All he did was find a different avenue to harass Cindy, and he did without regard to the rules and the warnings. We abided by the forum rules, he did not, he blatantly disobeyed a mod's directive after a stern warning. It appears, you arbitrarily decide who should be banned and who does not instead of going by the forum protocol. Insinuating Cindy is equally to blame at this juncture is ridiculous, anyone who has the reading comprehension of 1st grade kid would be able to instantly see he is the culprit, and a psychotic wack-job, and should be automatically banned without hesitation.


There is a difference between taking a potshot at someone here and there, and putting someone's name in "one inch bold letters" for the world to see, meaning he is deliberately and openly stalking her in case you can't discern that? She never started a thread about his criminal record nor did she use his real name, he constantly starts threads about her and uses her name. All he had to do was ignore her post about his "criminal record" because she did not produce actual "evidence." Consequently, his guilty conscious took over and made his own situation worse. If I was Him (and I am glad I am not) I would have told her to show proof about my criminal record in order to bait her to violate the rules, but he is too stupid and his whole identity depends on what people from a roid site think of him, he played himself, yeah, he totally played himself. As far as I knew Cindy could have been lying because she never posted any "primary documents" about him. However, he openly admitted he did the crime. So, do actually believe what people say about other people without them producing evidence? If you want to go by the rules, she never posted any "real documents" about him on an "open forum." I told Cindy she was wrong about a few things and to stop dealing with him, and leave him alone, and she has, yeah she has. You can speculate all you want about her indirectly taking potshots at him on open forum, you have no proof, your argument holds no water. SQT can say all she wants about Cindy telling his business outside of this site, that is irrelevant to the rules of this site. There is tons of proof he has been stalking her since SQT implemented that gag order, he is violating the rules. He is unequivocally the culprit since SQT handed down the warnings, and you are justifying his mischievous behavior by making a comparison to what happened in the wrong time frame.

Start from the time SQT got involved, you will come to the shocking conclusion he is on a mass stalking spree and Cindy is pretty much blameless. In all fairness, she has not always been blameless, but since SQT got involved she stopped, he has not. Therefore, you are failing to reconize the situation for what it really is at this point and time, and you are refusing to reprimand him for his flagrant violations of the forum rules. I have been insulted 1,000 times by different females on this board, 90% of the time I laughed about it. He has to retaliate against a defenseless female because he is nothing but a pussy, and this site is the only place in the world where his voice is heard, and all you are doing is enabling and re-enforcing him to be the sociopath that he really is by making absurd assertions without collecting all the facts.



As for getting banned, if JG gets banned he will slice his wrists, because this all he has in life. It don't matter to me if you ban me for writing this post, I am practically daring you to ban me, lol.. All I will do is scoff at you and walk away like I was never a member of this site. Ah! Ha!

Omg - Even Cindy is not going to read all that shit
 
I love how he thinks he knows everything. And like he's not biased in the fact that he hates java and follows cindy around like a puppy, waiting for every chance to be the e-knight in shining armor, hoping it will amount to some tail.
 
he did "practically dare me" to ban him and said he would walk away like he was never a member of the site...

sounds like a win to me! Maybe I should make it permanent. Should I accept his challenge?
 
Just a fair warning. Tomorrow morning I'm going to post pics of my morning shit everytime someone posts something that isn't directly related to Top Gun.
 
Lol.

CEO, now that I know what's really going on I won't expect any help from anyone. I know what your message said when you banned ledhead, and I would like for you to please post my deleted messages if you'd like. Even counting my "off my meds" post on Sunday as "baiting" him, then there is still nothing on me from the past month-six weeks. Who cares if I made a post and deleted it right away? In what world does me making a post that I erased right away that he would never see, be anything other than me TRYING? I don't understand the mindset, actually, yes I do. You have it out for me behind my back when I thought we were friends, you pretend you were friends with me to my "face". Well, not really face but, whatever. You are doing everything you can to justify letting this guy stay here, regardless of how creepy he is. Okay, I get it. That's fine, he's always going to be here, he will never leave.

In my circles, people don't justify violence against women, they don't go to extreme lengths to hang out with known criminals and sociopaths who have lied to them for almost a decade. They don't make fun of guys that stick up for women and call them knights, not when someone that's had a legit stalking order placed on them won't leave someone alone. I've been around a lot of assholes, but I wasn't raised around men like that.

You guys want JG here to watch him embarrass himself, fine. I don't get it but I won't expect any help from here on out, and maybe I won't stay. I don't really want to stick around someone like that, online or offline. I don't associate with people like that.

Ledhead is actually a really cool guy, and a decent human being. He is doing what he thinks is right, not what is popular and fair. You would lose a good poster outside of C&C if you banned him for good. Surely this place wouldn't ban ledhead but let java remain. I lost a bet this morning. Yeah, he couldn't possibly just want a criminal gone from the site, he couldn't possibly just like me as a person, he has to be sticking up for me because he wants sex.

Nan, thanks for being the only one that stuck up for me in this thread, legit. You're a good egg, girl. I know the rest of you don't think I was doing anything other than trying to ignore JG but said nothing.
 
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Lol.

CEO, now that I know what's really going on I won't expect any help from anyone. I know what your message said when you banned ledhead, and I would like for you to please post my deleted messages if you'd like. Even counting my "off my meds" post on Sunday as "baiting" him, then there is still nothing on me from the past month-six weeks. Who cares if I made a post and deleted it right away? In what world does me making a post that I erased right away that he would never see, be anything other than me TRYING? I don't understand the mindset, actually, yes I do. You have it out for me behind my back when I thought we were friends. You are doing everything you can to justify letting this guy stay here, regardless of how creepy he is.

In my circles, people don't justify violence against women, they don't go to extreme lengths to hang out with known criminals and sociopaths who have lied to them for almost a decade. They don't make fun of guys that stick up for women and call them knights, not when someone that's had a legit stalking order placed on them won't leave someone alone. I wasn't raised around men like that.

You guys want JG here to watch him embarrass himself, fine. I don't get it but I won't expect any help from here on out, and maybe I won't stay. I don't really want to stick around someone like that, online or offline. I don't associate with people like that.

Ledhead is actually a really cool guy, and a decent human being. He is doing what he thinks is right, not what is popular and fair. You would lose a good poster outside of C&C if you banned him for good. Surely this place wouldn't ban ledhead but let java remain. I lost a bet this morning. Yeah, he couldn't possibly just want a criminal gone from the site, he couldn't possibly just like me as a person, he has to be sticking up for me because he wants sex.

Nan, thanks for being the only one that stuck up for me in this thread, legit. You're a good egg, girl. I know the rest of you don't think I was doing anything other than trying to ignore JG but said nothing.

Pretty much postive it's a temp time out used to be done a lot back in digger days if someone asked to be banned. Which he did. And yes I think Lehead is a decent dude said that a few posts back.

If you don't want to be around criminals why are you posting on a site about steroids? Simple postion is a felony in the US FYI so a lot of criminals here for sure.

It's the internet people are going to lie. Should we ban SB for posting faux girlfriend pics? Or Pick3 when he says he's not a mo?

Don't act like you haven't made any wild accusations about him. IE we don't even think he served in the military. He was there for sure I seen pics IRL what exactly he did I dunno but he served. It seems much easier to make him out to be a monster than accept the fact he's just not the perfect person you wanted him to be.

If you don't have a degree in psychology you shouldn't be diagnosing people with disorders.

It's hasn't been 6 weeks stop telling yourself that previous to this thread I'd say it was a good 2-3 weeks hence why I made the effort to defuse the situation. Which clearly completely backfired on me.
 
Pretty much postive it's a temp time out used to be done a lot back in digger days if someone asked to be banned. Which he did. And yes I think Lehead is a decent dude said that a few posts back.

If you don't want to be around criminals why are you posting on a site about steroids? Simple postion is a felony in the US FYI so a lot of criminals here for sure.

It's the internet people are going to lie. Should we ban SB for posting faux girlfriend pics? Or Pick3 when he says he's not a mo?

Don't act like you haven't made any wild accusations about him. IE we don't even think he served in the military. He was there for sure I seen pics IRL what exactly he did I dunno but he served. It seems much easier to make him out to be a monster than accept the fact he's just not the perfect person you wanted him to be.

If you don't have a degree in psychology you shouldn't be diagnosing people with disorders.

It's hasn't been 6 weeks stop telling yourself that previous to this thread I'd say it was a good 2-3 weeks hence why I made the effort to defuse the situation. Which clearly completely backfired on me.

Yeah, that wasn't a wild accusation QT, he's totally disordered, I can say it. I've seen pics too, but that doesn't mean anything.

You can't compare violence against women to steroids, and you did the search yourself QT. There was nothing but minor shit from here and there from the past six weeks while his behavior got worse the more I ignored him. CEO thinks I have some "agenda" or something, whatever thats the only reason it backfired on you. He convinced you about me, something I don't know.

So, he's always going to be here. That is just the way it is. Now I'll just have to determine if I'll stay here or not. I have nothing else to say about it, I've said everything I'm going to say about it. That's why I stopped reporting posts. There was no point.
 
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Yeah, that wasn't a wild accusation QT, I have a legit reason to believe with almost certainty he never saw a second of combat and he's totally disordered, I can say it. I've seen pics too, but that doesn't mean anything.

You can't compare violence against women to steroids, and you did the search yourself QT. There was nothing but minor shit from here and there from the past six weeks while his behavior got worse the more I ignored him. CEO thinks I have some "agenda" or something, whatever thats the only reason it backfired on you. He convinced you about me, something I don't know.

So, he's always going to be here. That is just the way it is. Now I'll just have to determine if I'll stay here or not. I have nothing else to say about it, I've said everything I'm going to say about it. That's why I stopped reporting posts. There was no point.

There was no point after I clearly told you in a karma message I would help you out? Do you see how frustrating that is for us here?

Your right you can't compare them but the fact is we can't google mugshots on every last person to make sure they have not been charged with domestic violence.

Just because you read a report doesn't mean you have all the facts. I am not sticking up for him or his actions in that situation. I am just saying you weren't there I wasn't there it's not our place to make a call on what happened.
 
QT I have county court dockets and case files, not just a report. I made sure it was a legit accusation before I made it.

Not saying I should have posted it at all, I'm just saying. I'm ready to let it go, I accept his and my, our fate as always having to ignore each other. I just hope he can do it.

There is no point if CEO is going to be suspicious of the intentions of all women here.
 
QT I have county court dockets and case files, not just a report. I made sure it was a legit accusation before I made it.

Not saying I should have posted it at all, I'm just saying. I'm ready to let it go, I accept his and my, our fate as always having to ignore each other. I just hope he can do it.

There is no point if CEO is going to be suspicious of the intentions of all women here.

I read them already I know how to google to. I still say that it's none of our business period what happend.

Yes CEO is the devil now to sorry I missed that memo:rolleyes:
 
I read them already I know how to google to. I still say that it's none of our business period what happend.

Yes CEO is the devil now to sorry I missed that memo:rolleyes:

You mean you went to the county courthouse website and searched their online docket system? You can't google courthouse records, that I'm aware of anyway. Did you do the city municipal one too? I'm not saying that to be a bitch, I want you to see what I saw so someone will take me seriously. I never showed anyone that stuff, CEO does not have it.

Yes, I know that it wasn't anyone's business and I shouldn't have posted the police report. I do feel bad, for that. If you want to trash this thread to preserve any erep he's got left, please do it because I am ready to just accept things as they are and just keep trying my best to ignore him.

QT, my feeling bad for him is what kept me in this mess with him, I, personally had to stop feeling sorry for him.

I'm not saying CEO is the devil, I never said he was bad! All I said is that he was acting one way to me, and apparently another with ledhead, that's all I'm saying. This is the exact reason why I stopped reporting posts in the first place.

And ledhead's head is not shoved up my ass, if anything it's the other way around.
 
Holy fuck, Java is the fucking crazy weirdo, I don't know why you're shitting on Cindy for this. You saw the police reports, obv there is truth to his insanity, that Cindy tells about. Because anyone who is crazy enough to hit a women is a insane piece of shit. That's enough proof to me there. I grew up learning never to touch a women abusively, and I won't tolerate it.
 
Holy fuck, Java is the fucking crazy weirdo, I don't know why you're shitting on Cindy for this. You saw the police reports, obv there is truth to his insanity, that Cindy tells about. Because anyone who is crazy enough to hit a women is a insane piece of shit. That's enough proof to me there. I grew up learning never to touch a women abusively, and I won't tolerate it.

i know this is so funny the whole "we dont know what really happen" shit. you can google my name and you wont find a police report with my wife wearing a black eye and me shrugging my shoulders saying, fuck you don't know the whole story. some people don't get in those situations for reasons, they aren't doing shit to get in trouble.
 
i know this is so funny the whole "we dont know what really happen" shit. you can google my name and you wont find a police report with my wife wearing a black eye and me shrugging my shoulders saying, fuck you don't know the whole story. some people don't get in those situations for reasons, they aren't doing shit to get in trouble.

Yes I'm sure Cindy has lied to us all... And that it's all made up...
But hey I guess we don't care about women being abused, and stalked.
I mean I use AAS so that makes me a criminal too right? So I guess that makes it alright if I beat women too, because I'm a criminal anyways.
 
This should not even be brought up on a fucking fitness board! None of this! Police reports etc...Cindy, no offense, but why would you even want to be on the same fitness board as this crazy fuck if all of this is true. If i had all these police documents etc..etc..wouldnt you want to be as far away as possible from this guy? Why is this prolonging? I just don't think it's going to work with you 2 on this board. Something always gets brought up. Cindy, i love you...i DONT like JG at ALL...plus i show no fucking sympathy for this guy, all the Mods know that as well. I'm just sick of this whole drama bullshit between you 2. This is the fucking internet, not real life. I don't understand why this is all getting brought up here?

PS i don't want to hear anymore about this drama between other members also.
 
Yes I'm sure Cindy has lied to us all... And that it's all made up...
But hey I guess we don't care about women being abused, and stalked.
I mean I use AAS so that makes me a criminal too right? So I guess that makes it alright if I beat women too, because I'm a criminal anyways.

You're a fucking idiot. STFU and move on
 
This should not even be brought up on a fucking fitness board! None of this! Police reports etc...Cindy, no offense, but why would you even want to be on the same fitness board as this crazy fuck if all of this is true. If i had all these police documents etc..etc..wouldnt you want to be as far away as possible from this guy? Why is this prolonging? I just don't think it's going to work with you 2 on this board. Something always gets brought up. Cindy, i love you...i DONT like JG at ALL...plus i show no fucking sympathy for this guy, all the Mods know that as well. I'm just sick of this whole drama bullshit between you 2. This is the fucking internet, not real life. I don't understand why this is all getting brought up here?

PS i don't want to hear anymore about this drama between other members also.

Can I shit?
 
woot, don't tell cindy to leave we want her to stay, cant you just get rid of java fuck
 
There is one thing I see, in her latest posts towards java cindy pokes fun at him, but in his latest posts towards cindy he's being a stalky weirdo

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i know this is so funny the whole "we dont know what really happen" shit. you can google my name and you wont find a police report with my wife wearing a black eye and me shrugging my shoulders saying, fuck you don't know the whole story. some people don't get in those situations for reasons, they aren't doing shit to get in trouble.

Exactly
 
ER, quit trying to be some tough bike riding, smoothie making, spandex wearing son of a bitch...they dont go well together
 
You mean you went to the county courthouse website and searched their online docket system? You can't google courthouse records, that I'm aware of anyway. Did you do the city municipal one too? I'm not saying that to be a bitch, I want you to see what I saw so someone will take me seriously. I never showed anyone that stuff, CEO does not have it.

Yes, I know that it wasn't anyone's business and I shouldn't have posted the police report. I do feel bad, for that. If you want to trash this thread to preserve any erep he's got left, please do it because I am ready to just accept things as they are and just keep trying my best to ignore him.

QT, my feeling bad for him is what kept me in this mess with him, I, personally had to stop feeling sorry for him.

I'm not saying CEO is the devil, I never said he was bad! All I said is that he was acting one way to me, and apparently another with ledhead, that's all I'm saying. This is the exact reason why I stopped reporting posts in the first place.

And ledhead's head is not shoved up my ass, if anything it's the other way around.

Yes the online docket. I skimmed it and realized it's not my place to be looking into things on a person that is not a part of my life anymore. It's not my place to judge him.

It's your perception that CEO acts one way to you and another with others. I have seen him be fairly consistent with how he treats people.
 
i know this is so funny the whole "we dont know what really happen" shit. you can google my name and you wont find a police report with my wife wearing a black eye and me shrugging my shoulders saying, fuck you don't know the whole story. some people don't get in those situations for reasons, they aren't doing shit to get in trouble.

It's not a simple matter of putting in his name and it comes up. You have to be searching for soemthing with specifics terms to find it.
 
Yes I'm sure Cindy has lied to us all... And that it's all made up...
But hey I guess we don't care about women being abused, and stalked.
I mean I use AAS so that makes me a criminal too right? So I guess that makes it alright if I beat women too, because I'm a criminal anyways.

You don't have enough life experience to judge anyone, Even with life experience it’s not our place to judge others as we do not know all the facts of there life.

Your reading comprehension is horrendous you don’t seem to get the point of anything unless it’s spelled out clear as day to you.
 
There is one thing I see, in her latest posts towards java cindy pokes fun at him, but in his latest posts towards cindy he's being a stalky weirdo

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Her little jabs they are making things better right clearly?
 
You don't have enough life experience to judge anyone, Even with life experience it’s not our place to judge others as we do not know all the facts of there life.

Your reading comprehension is horrendous you don’t seem to get the point of anything unless it’s spelled out clear as day to you.

Lol wasn't clear enough for me to comprehend what was said. Could you make it clearer?
 
me shit stirring, no i wouldn't do that to java

people fuck with me about smoothies all the time, and how i am gay, and how my wife cheats on me, and the list goes on. if you want to start giving me shit about giving others shit well then fuck all of you, cause that is stupid as fuck.

and, i take it all really well. i even have mods mess with me. so dont tell me i stir shit when mods fuck with me too. and i seriously dont care about it, just sayin
 
me shit stirring, no i wouldn't do that to java

people fuck with me about smoothies all the time, and how i am gay, and how my wife cheats on me, and the list goes on. if you want to start giving me shit about giving others shit well then fuck all of you, cause that is stupid as fuck.

exactly.
 
me shit stirring, no i wouldn't do that to java

people fuck with me about smoothies all the time, and how i am gay, and how my wife cheats on me, and the list goes on. if you want to start giving me shit about giving others shit well then fuck all of you, cause that is stupid as fuck.

and the fact that you live in fucking Wisconsin....
 
I'm sorry! I don't know what else to say or do to make things right again. Woot, I stay here because I've made friends and formed bonds here I don't want to break. I like it here, I like the people. cEO is my friend, imnot mad at him at all, I know that he does not believe me now. Thinks I have an agenda; I'm being dramatic. do you think I should leave? I don't want to be banned, I don't. Ill take a couple days off to decide what I want to do.
 
me shit stirring, no i wouldn't do that to java

people fuck with me about smoothies all the time, and how i am gay, and how my wife cheats on me, and the list goes on. if you want to start giving me shit about giving others shit well then fuck all of you, cause that is stupid as fuck.

and, i take it all really well. i even have mods mess with me. so dont tell me i stir shit if you never say shit to me

You provide all that info to the board right about what you do?

The she's cheating on you is an old joke.
 
You provide all that info to the board right about what you do?

If I'm not mistaken Java, also admitted to doing what he did to Cindy, and saying he's a changed person. Then quickly changed his story after he realized we were all shitting on him
 
You provide all that info to the board right about what you do?

The she's cheating on you is an old joke.

i am not trying to change the way things are. that was not my point. my point was you guys saying i am stirring the pot. well we stir the pot everywhere we can. people make fun of me all the time and i don't care. now we make fun of java and i am told I am stirring some kind of pot. i didn't know there was a pot in chat.
 
I thought everyone was asked to stop enabling the drama in this particular subject?

and its all blowin up in my thread..which I dont mind..takes the heat off of me
but again...wasn't everyone asked to stop enabling the drama?
 
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