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so if tren is the holly grail what next?

No, they are on the tren banwagon. Every other thread is about tren this tren that.

+1. I think the reason noobs are so attracted to tren is because they hear its the most powerful steroid out there, they're impatient, and not very health conscious. They want to get as big and strong as possible as quickly as possible and damn the sides.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
No, they are on the tren banwagon. Every other thread is about tren this tren that. :evil:
obviously for a reason cause it works...
 
rockdoc said:
+1. I think the reason noobs are so attracted to tren is because they hear its the most powerful steroid out there, they're impatient, and not very health conscious. They want to get as big and strong as possible as quickly as possible and damn the sides.
inpatient? if that was the case everyone should work out until there in there mid 30s anyone that uses steroids is inpatient....who dont want to get as big and strong as possible?
 
HAYEZ said:
inpatient? if that was the case everyone should work out until there in there mid 30s anyone that uses steroids is inpatient....who dont want to get as big and strong as possible?
I agree, but its got to be tempered with a little common sense. Maybe trade a little of that quick size for healthier compound with a little less sides. Just the way I prefer to do it. Everyone's different.
 
the elite addict said:
the rookies are on the tren banwagon, thats bad.




hmmm Im a rookie and I wouldnt say im on the "tren bandwagon"

You vets need to know us younger less wise bros DO listen to yall and take what yall say into account..

at least I do bros..... :)
 
rockdoc said:
I agree, but its got to be tempered with a little common sense. Maybe trade a little of that quick size for healthier compound with a little less sides. Just the way I prefer to do it. Everyone's different.
i dont see tren being any worse then orals...look at var and dbol...everyone eats the shit out of it even though it destroys your cholesterol
 
HAYEZ said:
i dont see tren being any worse then orals...look at var and dbol...everyone eats the shit out of it even though it destroys your cholesterol

Good point. I would like to hear this explained. How is tren more unhealthy than other universally used compounds like dbol for instance?

I'm not talking about sides. So what if you have trouble sleeping. Sides does not always equal unhealthy.

For values lets use 6 weeks of 50mg dbol ED vs 6 weeks of 50mg tren A ED on a healthy 200lb 25 yr old male.

Please compare based on damage to liver, lipids, kidneys, etc.

Thanks.
 
One of the big problems is that noobs read steroid profiles & take their interpritatons of profiles above vets advice. Proflies don't warn of the risk of bitch tits from progesterones like deca and tren. Noobs therefore think these compounds are better than test. God forbid they get some acne! There are also a growing number of noobs that think gear (such as tren, "a cutting drug") will magically cut bodyfat & "get them ripped" without even knowing how to properly diet & train.

Test sides are easily handled & it is a VERY effective drug. Many young guys starting out on "safe" compunds like deca, or "cutting" compunds like tren are in for a rude awakening. Limp dicks & bannana tits.
 
whitemahon said:
One of the big problems is that noobs read steroid profiles & take their interpritatons of profiles above vets advice. Proflies don't warn of the risk of bitch tits from progesterones like deca and tren. Noobs therefore think these compounds are better than test. God forbid they get some acne! There are also a growing number of noobs that think gear (such as tren, "a cutting drug") will magically cut bodyfat & "get them ripped" without even knowing how to properly diet & train.

Test sides are easily handled & it is a VERY effective drug. Many young guys starting out on "safe" compunds like deca, or "cutting" compunds like tren are in for a rude awakening. Limp dicks & bannana tits.

+1, agreed.

Tren is a very potent androgen. Progesterone gyno is no joke. A great physique can be achieved w/o tren. Ask swole's opinon-Im sure he will also agree.
 
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