So i crashed and burned big time with this cool chick....

[calveless wonder]

can't win em all, but i had a good vibe. not sure where i goofed up

jewish chick from up north, real cute...level headed.
was on my friend's kickball team and approached her at the bar they go afterwards (yes, they have kickball leagues down here. mostly recent grads from U of miami and local universities. you just play kickball out in front of the Bay in downtown and get drunk. its great)

we hit it off totally and basically lost my friends for an hour + just talking ot her.
i got her to come back to my place with my friends to go out with us(took some convincing since she was tired) and we were talking 1 on 1, but i went to take a shower and by the time i came out, she was yawning and ready to go
she liked my friends, so i figured they'd distract her while i washed up.

not sure what i was thinking, but i didn't walk her out to her car. i got her number, but i think she got mad about the fact i didnt try to kiss her. she was definetely interested it seemed....but i was kinda chicken shit and didn't close the deal

you think this is salvageable? experts (key word) weigh in please

i actually kinda sorta respect this one LOL
i even made her cry...in a good way. she went to college w/ my friend (who passed away in a fire there) and knew him well. when i mentioned his name she shed a tear. it was very emotional... (no, no clomid negros)

 

[GoldenDelicious]

im no expert but wheres the crash n burn part?

sure theres a momentum to every seduction and it detracts from the whole thing if you keep missing escalation points (it goes stale, isnt as spontaneous, the drop out of trance mode etc) but youre still gaming, well and truly - it just means theres a little more comfort, a little more qualification, and a little less raw attraction

on the brightside, not kissing her means youre not going to have buyers remorse. youre that safe guy that doesnt rush or grope or act like an ass. theres a lot less social and sexual pressure involved in being around you. sure youre going to have to build tension again, but the bright side is that youre consolidating in the meantime. chances of her flaking went down.

so stay fun. stay flirty. stay positive. there is no downside to knowing you. you didnt kiss cos you didnt feel like it. you think its cute that she got frustrated. laugh about it, give her a twirl, and change the subject. youre playing kickball next week, itd be nice to see her but if not, thats cool too

...then engineer a seduction location and CLOSE

 

[swole]

what happened from the time you got out of the shower to when she left?

not kissing closing is fine on the first "date" IMO, just be playful about it next time...something along the lines of, "i wanted to kiss you last time but i wanted our first to be super special" *gay smile*

seriously i have my own method of kiss closing

it involves getting comfy enough to watch tv while spooning on my couch (or at least having my arm around her neck and her resting her head on my delt and chest) then kiss her neck/ear/head while she's the inside spoon...if you don't want to/can't kiss those parts then lightly smell her hair, i usually let out a little "mmm, you smell good"....then i lightly grab her chin and face her lips to me...100% of the time one of these two methods work

but i don't think you will have problems kiss closing, sometimes the timing just isn'tt there

lol, man you're just like me...you don't do something you normally do with 99.99% of other girls and you think it's over due to failure loloool i love it

 

[domoljub]

im no expert either, but i believe once a girl gives you a number she wants you to call real bad. wait a day or 2 and call. a personal little favorite is to have a little sauce before that call, not lots.. but just enough to make you sharp if you know what i mean.

 

[covergrl80]

Another one bites the dust!

 

[MichaelScott]

im no expert either, but i believe once a girl gives you a number she wants you to call real bad. wait a day or 2 and call. a personal little favorite is to have a little sauce before that call, not lots.. but just enough to make you sharp if you know what i mean.

if u call and its the wrong number then u have a problem

 

[javaguru]

You tried to hook up with InquisitivePsyche?

 

[fistfullofsteel]

jewish chick from up north

just stop right there unless you are jewish too

 

[javaguru]

just stop right there unless you are jewish too

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read it.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

no jews!

u live in miami....hot chics fall out of the sky... move on

 

[fistfullofsteel]

no jews!

u live in miami....hot chics fall out of the sky... move on

i hear lots of hot spanish chicks can't go wrong with that shit.

 

[Nathan]

It's hard to say cause you were the only one there but it doesn't sound like you crashed and burned. If she WANTED you to kiss her, what you do is call her up and tell her you really liked her and would love to go out with her again. Then kiss her next time at an appropriate time and right after you do, tell her you wanted to do that in the first place but didn't want to maul the girl right away and send the wrong impression. Girls love that shit.

 

[dead_reggin_storage_fashi]

i hear lots of hot spanish chicks can't go wrong with that shit.

never piss a spanish/mexican chic. they will want to fucking kill you.

sluty and hot when young but when old they are pallad and just fucking mean. once they are preggo they always fucking keep it too.... always! ugh

 

[fistfullofsteel]

never piss a spanish/mexican chic. they will want to fucking kill you.

sluty and hot when young but when old they are pallad and just fucking mean. once they are preggo they always fucking keep it too.... always! ugh

really??? thanks for the 411.

 

[the_clockwork]

I didn't read the majority of this but WTF?? a kickball team? did you pick her up on a fucking jungle gym you pedophile!?

 

[Nathan]

I didn't read the majority of this but WTF?? a kickball team? did you pick her up on a fucking jungle gym you pedophile!?

It's actually really popular right now with twenty-somethings. People are hooking up all over the place as a result of it.

 

[the_clockwork]

It's actually really popular right now with twenty-somethings. People are hooking up all over the place as a result of it.

do I sense sarcasm? It's not popular here but I'm from the midwest, we just go talk to people not talk about talking to people

 

[Sub-Zero]

just tell her how you feel. girls love honesty.


lolol

 

[heatherrae]

can't win em all, but i had a good vibe. not sure where i goofed up

jewish chick from up north, real cute...level headed.
was on my friend's kickball team and approached her at the bar they go afterwards (yes, they have kickball leagues down here. mostly recent grads from U of miami and local universities. you just play kickball out in front of the Bay in downtown and get drunk. its great)

we hit it off totally and basically lost my friends for an hour + just talking ot her.
i got her to come back to my place with my friends to go out with us(took some convincing since she was tired) and we were talking 1 on 1, but i went to take a shower and by the time i came out, she was yawning and ready to go
she liked my friends, so i figured they'd distract her while i washed up.

not sure what i was thinking, but i didn't walk her out to her car. i got her number, but i think she got mad about the fact i didnt try to kiss her. she was definetely interested it seemed....but i was kinda chicken shit and didn't close the deal

you think this is salvageable? experts (key word) weigh in please

i actually kinda sorta respect this one LOL
i even made her cry...in a good way. she went to college w/ my friend (who passed away in a fire there) and knew him well. when i mentioned his name she shed a tear. it was very emotional... (no, no clomid negros)

She was just genuinely sleepy, it sounds like. Call her.

 

[Nathan]

do I sense sarcasm? It's not popular here but I'm from the midwest, we just go talk to people not talk about talking to people

No sarcasm. I've heard of numerous people getting involved in this. I got an offer to join a team around here last week.

 

[calveless wonder]

thanks peeps

it was very spontaneous (i.e. i went with her to pick up her car, and my friend drove back my car so she could go out with us and find our house). so i figured for it not to end without me kissing her, is kinda wack. i don't want to get dumped in the friend zone LOL, but there was definetely enough tension there to keep some sexual interest.

 

[calveless wonder]

btw i love me some jewish chicks
all you haters

italian and jewish chicks i've always had an affinity towards. it works both ways..they love me too. jewish chicks give great head, and italian chicks are tough little bitches (and are usually good in bed)

thats what happens when you grow up in north jersey

 

[fistfullofsteel]

thats what happens when you grow up in north jersey

i feel your pain and suffering

 

[calveless wonder]

i feel your pain and suffering

i don't know what you're talking about . i have way more success with woman up there than i do down here..and i vibe with girls 100x more up north than i do down south. here it's a different ballgame, that might just be me

plus if you're in the right spot, manhattan is a stones throw away. i enjoyed jersey, especially that i've been away from it so long. i think you gotta leave it to really appreciate it

 

[blueta2]

my take; she was annoyed you left her with friends to take a shower. Why would you take a shower when she was there?
just a thought....

 

[calveless wonder]

my take; she was annoyed you left her with friends to take a shower. Why would you take a shower when she was there?
just a thought....

that was my original thinking...but i kinda follow my own path and if it bothers them, fuck it.

we were waiting on our other friends to come over before we left...that part kinda dragged on a bit. i was annoyed with that, but it gave me time to shower.

my best friend is on her kickball team and our other roomate (a girl) hit it off with her kinda too. so i figured they'd keep her company for the 10 minutes i was in the shower.

it was super humid out that day, so it was a must

 

[blueta2]

that was my original thinking...but i kinda follow my own path and if it bothers them, fuck it.

we were waiting on our other friends to come over before we left...that part kinda dragged on a bit. i was annoyed with that, but it gave me time to shower.

my best friend is on her kickball team and our other roomate (a girl) hit it off with her kinda too. so i figured they'd keep her company for the 10 minutes i was in the shower.

it was super humid out that day, so it was a must

I'm thinking maybe she just took that as rude. Who knows, but I don't think she was annoyed you didn't kiss her.
She is prob talking to her friends right now saying "he hasn't called yet"
call her. It sounds like she liked you.......if she didn't, she would not have come over

 

[Forge]

that was my original thinking...but i kinda follow my own path and if it bothers them, fuck it.

we were waiting on our other friends to come over before we left...that part kinda dragged on a bit. i was annoyed with that, but it gave me time to shower.

my best friend is on her kickball team and our other roomate (a girl) hit it off with her kinda too. so i figured they'd keep her company for the 10 minutes i was in the shower.

it was super humid out that day, so it was a must

Most women crave attention from a man more than him being clean. You left her unattended so you could feel better, she most likely saw that as a bit selfish on some level. If she did feel that way then she won’t forget it any time soon, initial impressions are the most critical.

If she was so tired I would have waited until she left to go home, then got my shower. Just sayin.

 

[swole]

btw i love me some jewish chicks
all you haters

italian and jewish chicks i've always had an affinity towards. it works both ways..they love me too. jewish chicks give great head, and italian chicks are tough little bitches (and are usually good in bed)

thats what happens when you grow up in north jersey

holy shit agreed x100008, i only had 1 jewish girl but all my boys say the sme thing...and italian girls have this swagger about them that drives me mad but i love it (had 1 that sucked in the sack)

this is fucked up, i'm attracted to the normal american girl, you know, the white girl with wealthy parents who would NEVER understand my obsession with bodybuilding, the stupid words i say, the way i like to be grimey at times, how i will wear abercrombie one day and sean jean the next (the girl, not the parents - parents always love me ...i'm either too "guido" or into myself (which I'm not) for them...so i like overcoming the challenge of "making" them want me...what's funny is that i end up getting bored extremely fast and they get crazy attached

sad thing is the best and most fun relationships i've had were with chicks who had an attitude, swagger, or came from strictly middle class families (hairdressers, bartenders)