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slut, or not?

Yarg! said:
ok i said id update with more facts, and here it is:

- i should have clarified this first, but i was buzzed so i forgot: she lost her virginity at 16 (ok that is kind of normalish at this day and age) to her boyfriend at the time. after the incident they were together for 2yrs till the age of 18. after 18 then she went on her servicing spree of 20 guys, so thats 20 guys in 2 yrs.

-there is another friend in the picture. hes liked her since she was 18yrs old and theyre really friendly. this other friend really likes her and theyve made out at parties , went out and was starting to develope a relationship with her. then this otherfriend introduced her to james, (the friend i got in an arguement with) and all 3 decided they were going to move out. james has considerable amount of money and looks that this other guy, and 2 days after meeting james she fucked him and 'broke up' with the other friend and now decided shes jsut gonna move out with james , completely ditching tom. tom got pretty hurt about that because for 2 yrs they were really good friends, then 2 months before meeting james they became more than friends and she just arubtly ditched him.

-while seeing james, she gave someone a blow job. however she didnt consider that cheating because james was just her fuck buddy and not her boyfriend.

-ever since james fucked her hes been raving about her. and telling me hes got feelings for her and how awesome a girl she is. i finally meet her (so far ive met her twice) and the first time was at a bar with like 5 other people and i noticed she was compltely distant from james and was openly flirty with everyone. james just sort of sat by himself and drank in a corner sulking.

-ive known james for 10 yrs and hes a very good friend of mine. i didnt like this girl from the get go and i thought she was a slut. i also didnt like her she distances herself from james and thinks of him as nothign more than a dildo. everyone else in our circle of friends agrees and as his friends we didnt want him to move out with someone like her (shes just not trust worthy with money, but thats another story) and find someone better. there is currently a girl that already likes james and shes way nicer than this other chick. i didnt like seeing him get tooled around for the last few months and after a few beers in me , james told everyone about her 20 sexual partners thing and i blurted out that shes a slut. james got defensive and i got offensive and things just escalated from there.

ive read the responses here and everyone thinks i should apologize. i probably will , but definately not without telling him there are better options out there.
Sounds like she's more interested in his wallet than using him as a dildo.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
If you were to ask people whether "whore," or "nigger," had more of a negative connotation I assure you that many would claim the latter in this manner.
I know words have powerful meaning and this is simply my opinion. This is a message board which = discussion and as to referring to me becoming a psychologist.. yes I am and this has nothing to do with how I am going to practice in the future. For goodness sake I haven't even started grad school yet (this fall).

I have my opinion and you have yours. Said and done.

Yeah keep telling yourself that sweetie, that's what all the oppressors want to hear...and why do women make .70 cents to every dollar men make, and why are all the major corporations and the world in general run by men etc. etc. Because they have brainwashed saps like you into calling your own gender Whores. It's called a DOUBLE STANDARD, don't promote it...Learn about it!!!

BTW Why DO you have a Bride picture up and your single??? Trying to scare that Elvis impersonater boyfriend of yours away? Don't appear to needy :qt: your trainer might sell you off. (JK)
 
avidinternet said:
Yeah keep telling yourself that sweetie, that's what all the oppressors want to hear...and why do women make .70 cents to every dollar men make, and why are all the major corporations and the world in general run by men etc. etc. Because they have brainwashed saps like you into calling your own gender Whores. It's called a DOUBLE STANDARD, don't promote it...Learn about it!!!

BTW Why DO you have a Bride picture up and your single??? Trying to scare that Elvis impersonater boyfriend of yours away? Don't appear to needy :qt: your trainer might sell you off. (JK)
I have nothing against women in general at all. You totally mis understand me. I was not raised thinking that women were still behind men because my mother is not. I was never told that, shown that, etc. So I do not believe it. I know it happens and still exists today however, I was able to have a positive role model showing me that it can be overcome.

I don't put women down. It's ironic that you say that because the only women "putting women down," are the ones who act in this manner - premiscuous, sleeping around, etc. THOSE women put others down. I am not brainwashed at all... I am being realistic.

The picture of me up was from my mom's wedding. It was the only picture that fit my avatar that didn't give me a hassle resizing so I put it up there. It holds no substantial meaning. I'm sorry you think I am giving the impression of me being needy but I am not. It's a picture, and that is all. Trying to scare my b/f away? Lmao. Would never happen. Why would you make an assumption when you know nothing about me? If I don't want to be in a relationship, it's over right there. I don't play games. I was raised with a very strong head on my shoulders and luckily, I had a wonderful role model to show me how to do it. :)
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I don't put women down. It's ironic that you say that because the only women "putting women down," are the ones who act in this manner - premiscuous, sleeping around, etc. THOSE women put others down. I am not brainwashed at all... I am being realistic.
So when men do this are they called whores...no...so your not being "realistic" your are perpetuating the oppressive use of a stereotype used by men to disparage women in general PERIOD!!!

I was raised with a very strong head on my shoulders and luckily, I had a wonderful role model to show me how to do it. :)
The key word here is role "model" not role models...You talk about your mother, but hear no mention of Dad. I'm sure you are aware of the importance of a great Father figure to give a woman a perfectly formed psyche...However seems like mom did a real job of putting the whore scare into you so kudos for her, she just damaged you a bit but I'm sure by the time your through Grad school all of this miss information will have worked its way out. Good Luck to you!
 
solidspine said:
She is a slut in my book, but I am old fashioned and cheat on my wife so I am Also a hypocrite

and I really love another chick who just dropped me, but she will be back.


But I have four daughters, all under 22, and they are virgins, and will remain virgins until marriage,


I am now switching back to the anabolic discsuion page.
I hate to be the one to tell you, but no, they're not.

InquisitivePsyche said:
I have nothing against women in general at all. You totally mis understand me. I was not raised thinking that women were still behind men because my mother is not. I was never told that, shown that, etc. So I do not believe it. I know it happens and still exists today however, I was able to have a positive role model showing me that it can be overcome.

I don't put women down. It's ironic that you say that because the only women "putting women down," are the ones who act in this manner - premiscuous, sleeping around, etc. THOSE women put others down. I am not brainwashed at all... I am being realistic.
:)
Who are you to judge in this manner? Just because it isn't your cup of tea, doesn't mean others can't do it. Smacks of radical Islamism, to me.

IMO whores, literally, are people that exchange sex for money. IRL Prostitutes are people who exchange something for the express purpose of gaining something else. Therefore we all prostitute ourselves in one manner, or another. A wife that has sex with her husband, just to give herself some peace and quiet (God forbid she'd actually want to make him happy). A man who cleans the bathroom, just so wifey won't give him grief about going out to play pool (God forbid he'd actually want to help her out).
See what I'm saying? We all do it from time to time. The only place it has a negative societal connotation is in it's purist form, sex for money.
 
BTW, Yarg, I agree with you. Based on your clarification, she is a slut. her activity is hurting others.
I still think you should apologize to your friend for being so callous. Not for what you said, but just for the way you said it.
 
avidinternet said:
So when men do this are they called whores...no...so your not being "realistic" your are perpetuating the oppressive use of a stereotype used by men to disparage women in general PERIOD!!!

The key word here is role "model" not role models...You talk about your mother, but hear no mention of Dad. I'm sure you are aware of the importance of a great Father figure to give a woman a perfectly formed psyche...However seems like mom did a real job of putting the whore scare into you so kudos for her, she just damaged you a bit but I'm sure by the time your through Grad school all of this miss information will have worked its way out. Good Luck to you!
I hate when people blame parents for the ways their children act (to an extent, yes - but there comes a time where a child develops his own thoughts/ideas). My mother didn't damage me or dig this in at all.. I made my own conclusion based off of what I've seen, experienced, heard, and that is it. My dad is VERY much in my life. I'm probably the biggest daddy's girl you'll meet. I didn't bring my dad up because that was not what we were talking about - you had brought up women being behind men in society's eyes. I'm sure I will learn more as I go along but I do feel that there is too much leniancy for people who act like that in general. I just don't like the name women who sleep around (quite often) to satisfy needs of self esteem and what not, give to women who don't do that. Perhaps that is one reason why men still look down at women - I don't know, I'm just saying. I'd rather be looked as another way, I guess. :)

So often these days, I hear men say "Women are such sluts. Whores, etc"
It's sad but I hear it much more often than I hear respectful things come out.

And thanks for the good luck. :)
 
avidinternet said:
The manish one better get more butch and learn how to fix the plumbing, that's what guys are for.
It is a complicated couple.The manish one dresses in baggy clothes and acts manish.The female is heavy set yet acts like a lady (except for the truck driver language.)...Watched them push each other in snow bank yesterday, was funny....I wanted to scream "dyke fight" but I had to hold it in.
 
Yarg! said:
ive read the responses here and everyone thinks i should apologize. i probably will , but definately not without telling him there are better options out there.
Cool. And when you apologize, tell him to dump the golddigger... and in the future try not to screw girls his friends like... :evil:
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I hate when people blame parents for the ways their children act (to an extent, yes - but there comes a time where a child develops his own thoughts/ideas). My mother didn't damage me or dig this in at all.. I made my own conclusion based off of what I've seen, experienced, heard, and that is it. My dad is VERY much in my life. I'm probably the biggest daddy's girl you'll meet. I didn't bring my dad up because that was not what we were talking about - you had brought up women being behind men in society's eyes. I'm sure I will learn more as I go along but I do feel that there is too much leniancy for people who act like that in general. I just don't like the name women who sleep around (quite often) to satisfy needs of self esteem and what not, give to women who don't do that. Perhaps that is one reason why men still look down at women - I don't know, I'm just saying. I'd rather be looked as another way, I guess. :)

So often these days, I hear men say "Women are such sluts. Whores, etc"
It's sad but I hear it much more often than I hear respectful things come out.

And thanks for the good luck. :)
So how would you have them be punished? Flogging? Stoning? That'll do wonders for their self-esteem.

So what if they sleep around just because they like sex. Men can do that can't they?
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I just don't like the name women who sleep around (quite often) to satisfy needs of self esteem and what not, give to women who don't do that. Perhaps that is one reason why men still look down at women - I don't know, I'm just saying. I'd rather be looked as another way, I guess.
Lack of self esteem might make some women sleep around for the wrong reasons, true. But lack of self esteem + sleeping around for "women" does not equal the word whore, it equals a woman with a lack of self esteem a bad judgement period. Because a man in the same situation does not garner the same word.

So often these days, I hear men say "Women are such sluts. Whores, etc "It's sad but I hear it much more often than I hear respectful things come out.
RIGHT and THAT is my point!!!! MEN are saying that about women...Tell me who is sleeping with these women that they are calling sluts? OH ...MEN...Yeah, like I said , double standard...no way around it. If 2 people are doing it why is only 1 of them a whore???

Live and Learn IP...man I'm glad I'm not 20 any more, to much you still don't GET.
 
IP...conveniently continues to ignore my questions.

Look, hon, I used to sit on my moral high horse once upon time, too. Then, life hit me over the head and I realized, wtf? No one is perfect, least of all me. We all have our human failings and none of us does everything so right that we have a right to be the moral police. Some of the loudest yappers about what the line of morality is have had some pretty dark secrets (if you pay attention to the news, I don't need to write out a list here). You may not, but frankly I think women who judge and slander other women, throw around words like whore and slut, women like THAT do more damage to the image of our gender than a woman who is promiscuous.

A woman who sleeps around really hurts no one but herself, if even that. A woman who uses words like slut and whore is hurting those around her. You may think you are perfectly justified in your judgement, but I have a couple of really great friends you'd call "sluts" and they are amazing women. One is going for her PhD in volconology, she volunteers at a homeless shelter every saturday, and she would and has dropped everything to be there for me when I've needed it. She is someone I can trust with anything, and she has never said anything intentionally unkind about anyone in my presence. The other is a successful photographer with ambition and spirit, the ability to have a group of people in tears from laughter, she's opinionated and intelligent and she really deeply CARES about people. She's the kind of person who gets upset watching the news, and as much as I tease her for her overflowing compassion, I love her for it.

Who are YOU to call them sluts and whores because of what they do on their own time with their bodies? Hell, I even have a friend who's a stripper and while she's got some serious issues due to things that are none of your business, I'd still prefer her company over someone who passes judgement so freely. Damaged and broken, she's still amazingly sweet. These are the things that matter to me in a person. Not who they fuck and how often they do it.

Men - I can see them having a relevant qualm with this sort of thing. Again, I may not agree with it, or I might? But they are dating the woman in question and her sexual history is sometimes part of the equation. But, as a woman, there's no reason for sexual history to mean SO MUCH to you in judging a person's value or worth. And if you think I need to question myself for defending people like my two friends listed here...well...I think I've made my point.
 
solidspine said:
She is a slut in my book, but I am old fashioned and cheat on my wife so I am Also a hypocrite

and I really love another chick who just dropped me, but she will be back.


But I have four daughters, all under 22, and they are virgins, and will remain virgins until marriage,


I am now switching back to the anabolic discsuion page.
best post EVER
Ill be in Newport this week, Im stopping by your house..:coffee:
 
btw, as far as the argument that women shouldnt be sluts becuse it is MEN they are slutting around with.
first off this is waaay off base, it isnt like there is a sign on thier heads saying "Ive had more pipe run through me than the Alaskan Oil Fields". Men are natures pursuers and women are its attractors. It is basic animal nature. Ever been to a night club? case in point. now in all honesty I dont really care if a woman sleeps with every guy who she comes across, doesnt bother me one iota.
but call a spade and spade and this type of behavior leads to alot of burned bridges and generally emotional and relationship type baggage. I beleive this is why people in general put a negative label on this type of behavior. it tends to be indicative of deeper emtotional trauma
women are too emotionally driven to have sex and not, in any way, develop some type of emotional connection. Men can, the end.
 
avidinternet said:
Lack of self esteem might make some women sleep around for the wrong reasons, true. But lack of self esteem + sleeping around for "women" does not equal the word whore, it equals a woman with a lack of self esteem a bad judgement period. Because a man in the same situation does not garner the same word.

RIGHT and THAT is my point!!!! MEN are saying that about women...Tell me who is sleeping with these women that they are calling sluts? OH ...MEN...Yeah, like I said , double standard...no way around it. If 2 people are doing it why is only 1 of them a whore???

Live and Learn IP...man I'm glad I'm not 20 any more, to much you still don't GET.


This is a great post, but I can see where IP is coming from. Kids today (girls and boys) are so loose with their bodies. It's not always about lack of self esteem but also a game of how many people can you bed.
Hell, there are many male-sluts on EF that constantly brag about how many girls they fuck.
I think in this day and age, people do not regard sex as when I was younger and yes in my day, we called loose women whores and the men that screwed them whoremasters.
IP respects herself and does not respect men/women who sleep around. No shame in that. She is not brining the woman's movement back. Come on!
Men and women who sleep around get no respect. Whether it's more accepted or not, you all think the word "slut" when some chicks bed many guys! Don't deny it!
 
Even though I absolutely hate the term slut and have been called one before and know what it's like to go through high school trama because of others judging my sexual choices................the guys on this board are being way too defensive. I think they want to get layed more.
 
gotmilk said:
Except for Minnesota girls

whats the 411 with Minnesota chicks?
 
solidspine said:
I am now switching back to the anabolic discsuion page.

:laugh2:
 
nefertiti said:
IP...conveniently continues to ignore my questions.

but frankly I think women who judge and slander other women, throw around words like whore and slut, women like THAT do more damage to the image of our gender than a woman who is promiscuous.

A woman who sleeps around really hurts no one but herself, if even that. A woman who uses words like slut and whore is hurting those around her.

Right on Nefertiti...IP has signed up for more school so we might have to wait a few years before this all kicks in. :)
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Lmao - do you even know what my username means? Obviously you are a bit confused.
yes, actually, i know precisely what the literal meaning of your username is :) hence my eyes rolling at your ill thought out, self assured posts.

...or dont you also find it a tad ironic that an "inquisitive" psych spends more time making statements than, say, inquiring :rolleyes:

InquisitivePsyche said:
I have a different opinion than you and we can keep it at that. People disagree and there is nothing wrong with that.
please dont use this technique on me, i find it offensive. i know very well that we have different opinions and that there is nothing wrong with it, and so your patronization is unwelcomly offensive.

InquisitivePsyche said:
Being promiscuous is part of being a slut. It's part of the definition.
what a stupendous statement. did you know that not being a genius is part of being a fucking idiot?

InquisitivePsyche said:
And many women are permiscuous due to lack of self esteem. That's a given and you can't argue with that.
please dont use this technique on me either. obfuscation coming from lesser minds is irritating. the root causes of promiscuity are not the focus of our discussion. in any event self esteem is but one of many causes and mostly, i didnt argue it in the first place so keep your insinuations and audience programming out of it thankyou.

InquisitivePsyche said:
The few that do it because they love sex and just want to have fun are in the minority.
more obfuscation.

anyway do yourself a favour and go to dictionary.com

type in the word slut

type in the word promiscuous

then try to wrap your brain around the idea of "discriminatory partner selection" and then, just for a laugh, consider how different societal tolerances would affect perception of partner selection as either being discriminatory, and therefore promiscuous in nature, or indiscriminate, and therefore slutty.

twit.
 
One last point and then I am probably done with this thread...

The most important thing to me in gaging whether or not someone is a good person is how they treat others. A person who misstreats THEMSELVES...I meet with compassion, not disdain.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
yes, actually, i know precisely what the literal meaning of your username is :) hence my eyes rolling at your ill thought out, self assured posts.

...or dont you also find it a tad ironic that an "inquisitive" psych spends more time making statements than, say, inquiring :rolleyes:

please dont use this technique on me, i find it offensive. i know very well that we have different opinions and that there is nothing wrong with it, and so your patronization is unwelcomly offensive.

what a stupendous statement. did you know that not being a genius is part of being a fucking idiot?

please dont use this technique on me either. obfuscation coming from lesser minds is irritating. the root causes of promiscuity are not the focus of our discussion. in any event self esteem is but one of many causes and mostly, i didnt argue it in the first place so keep your insinuations and audience programming out of it thankyou.

more obfuscation.

anyway do yourself a favour and go to dictionary.com

type in the word slut

type in the word promiscuous

then try to wrap your brain around the idea of "discriminatory partner selection" and then, just for a laugh, consider how different societal tolerances would affect perception of partner selection as either being discriminatory, and therefore promiscuous in nature, or indiscriminate, and therefore slutty.

twit.
The fact that you have to sit there and insult me with every other point that you make, btw - explains it all to me. I have yet to belittle you.

You try WAY too hard to sound "intelligent." Did you go to dictionary.com to find this intellectual volcabulary you suddenly started using? Lmao. I will not argue with someone like you - you completely miss my points as they go way over your head and if you want to take things offensively, then that is not my problem. You do that on your own.

"obfuscation coming from lesser minds is irritating." LMAO. Your sentence structure is horrible, btw. I wasn't going to say anything but geeze.. this one completely stands out. I'm not perfect with my words but come on...

Inquisitive DOES NOT necessarily mean INQUIRING. It can also mean.... Inquisitive = intellectually curious. Psyche = mind. You put the two together. :)
 
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InquisitivePsyche said:
The fact that you have to sit there and insult me with every other point that you make, btw - explains it all to me. I have yet to belittle you.

You try WAY too hard to sound "intelligent." Did you go to dictionary.com to find this intellectual volcabulary you suddenly started using? Lmao. I will not argue with someone like you - you completely miss my points as they go way over your head and if you want to take things offensively, then that is not my problem. You do that on your own.

Inquisitive DOES NOT mean INQUIRING. Inquisitive = intellectually curious. Psyche = mind. You put the two together. :)
fighting on over the internet is like winning the special olympics, if you win, you're still retarted.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I have nothing against women in general at all. You totally mis understand me. I was not raised thinking that women were still behind men because my mother is not. I was never told that, shown that, etc. So I do not believe it. I know it happens and still exists today however, I was able to have a positive role model showing me that it can be overcome.
and yet you judge peoples sexual choices based on their gender, with a marked difference in perception of appropriate sexual behaviour between the sexes.

InquisitivePsyche said:
I don't put women down. It's ironic that you say that because the only women "putting women down," are the ones who act in this manner - premiscuous, sleeping around, etc. THOSE women put others down. I am not brainwashed at all... I am being realistic.
really? seems to me that youre doing a pretty awesome job putting women down yourself.

i especially like the lat bit where you say that yorue not brainwashed...LOL. you see, the funny thing about ignorance is that if you knew you were ignorant...you wouldnt be. hmmmmmmmmmm

InquisitivePsyche said:
The picture of me up was from my mom's wedding. It was the only picture that fit my avatar that didn't give me a hassle resizing so I put it up there. It holds no substantial meaning. I'm sorry you think I am giving the impression of me being needy but I am not. It's a picture, and that is all. Trying to scare my b/f away? Lmao. Would never happen. Why would you make an assumption when you know nothing about me? If I don't want to be in a relationship, it's over right there. I don't play games. I was raised with a very strong head on my shoulders and luckily, I had a wonderful role model to show me how to do it. :)
im glad you have a strong head. just stop using it to hammer in tent pegs, it kills brain cells.

anyway IP you dont seem like a bad person. a bit of a twit, but not a bad person. so in the interests of waving some smelling salts around the actual inquisitive parts of your brain, consider this, and im using harsh language on purpose so that you may inagine someone in your face talking to you thus:

according to some people on this planets societal programming, you yourself are a fucking slut because of your sexual choices so far. not just a "oh, shes not too bad shes a good girl inside" type slut but a "my son is marrying a fucking poutana, oh nooooo *tears tears tears*" type slut that is the shame of the family until the day you die, and your kids are still remembered as the whores children.

have a think about the natural world (ie who we are, where we came from) rather than your own little reality bubble of social programming before you engage in such universally harmful behaviour as derogatorily labeling people.

you sound like a silly girl, which is pretty amazing, because we're probably the same age
 
GoldenDelicious said:
and yet you judge peoples sexual choices based on their gender, with a marked difference in perception of appropriate sexual behaviour between the sexes.

really? seems to me that youre doing a pretty awesome job putting women down yourself.

i especially like the lat bit where you say that yorue not brainwashed...LOL. you see, the funny thing about ignorance is that if you knew you were ignorant...you wouldnt be. hmmmmmmmmmm


im glad you have a strong head. just stop using it to hammer in tent pegs, it kills brain cells.

anyway IP you dont seem like a bad person. a bit of a twit, but not a bad person. so in the interests of waving some smelling salts around the actual inquisitive parts of your brain, consider this, and im using harsh language on purpose so that you may inagine someone in your face talking to you thus:

according to some people on this planets societal programming, you yourself are a fucking slut because of your sexual choices so far. not just a "oh, shes not too bad shes a good girl inside" type slut but a "my son is marrying a fucking poutana, oh nooooo *tears tears tears*" type slut that is the shame of the family until the day you die, and your kids are still remembered as the whores children.

have a think about the natural world (ie who we are, where we came from) rather than your own little reality bubble of social programming before you engage in such universally harmful behaviour as derogatorily labeling people.

you sound like a silly girl, which is pretty amazing, because we're probably the same age

You are honestly missing my points. I am not putting all women down - I am putting those down who act in a degrading manner and what you think is degrading and what I think is degrading are two totally different things and that's fine. I already said that opinions are going to differ.

Why claim I am brainwashed and not you? Do you not think that there are people out there who think similarily to me? You'd be pretty ignorant to say there aren't.

And no - I don't think we are the same age. I am 22.

P.S. I know I can be ignorant at times about many things.. but let's twist and say perhaps, that you are the one being ignorant? You tell me that I shouldn't judge so harshly yet you turn it right around and are judging me just as bad.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I have yet to belittle you.
yeah, i kinda noticed that :lmao:

InquisitivePsyche said:
The fact that you have to sit there and insult me with every other point that you make, btw - explains it all to me.
i insulted you? wow i was just talking, i dont know what youre talking about

InquisitivePsyche said:
You try WAY too hard to sound "intelligent." Did you go to dictionary.com to find this intellectual volcabulary you suddenly started using? Lmao.
this is my base persona. my normal colloquial chatty persona is something i use everyday because the simple truth of the matter is that most people are too ignorant of the english language to make speaking to them thus an appropriate, socially useful means of communication.

in other words, i talk dum for dum people becoz dub people scared of big words and think me try make them feel bad, when really me smart and me just talk stuff durrrrrrrrr

InquisitivePsyche said:
I will not argue with someone like you -
smartest thing youve said so far

InquisitivePsyche said:
you completely miss my points as they go way over your head and if you want to take things offensively, then that is not my problem. You do that on your own.
actually, i understand your points quite well. the mere fact that you misperceive my perception fairly well highlights your ignorance

InquisitivePsyche said:
"obfuscation coming from lesser minds is irritating." LMAO. Your sentence structure is horrible, btw. I wasn't going to say anything but geeze.. this one completely stands out. I'm not perfect with my words but come on...
actually it is grammatically acceptable as per the rules of, you know...the english language

if you really want to win some serious points, what you should do is focus on my spelling

InquisitivePsyche said:
Inquisitive DOES NOT mean INQUIRING. Inquisitive = intellectually curious. Psyche = mind. You put the two together. :)
um, im really sorry to beat you over the head with obvious stuff, but...inquisitive minds are highly predisposed to, you know...inquiring about stuff

my head feels funny after writing this :worried: why do i do this to myself?
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
You are honestly missing my points. I am not putting all women down - I am putting those down who act in a degrading manner and what you think is degrading and what I think is degrading are two totally different things and that's fine. I already said that opinions are going to differ.
those who have strong opinions that impinge upon the feelings of others had better be ready to defend them.

i have 4 sisters.
i have mainly female friends.
i have several girlfriends.
i care for these people very much.
i will happily do my little bit to challenge unhelpful mindsets that may, in some way, harm those people i care about.
i really disagree with what youre saying, and im picking you apart so that you understand why.
i think it is unhelpful on a personal level (the people i care about) and on a social level (whole societies having fubar mindsets/preconceptions) to let your views go unchallenged on a public board.

InquisitivePsyche said:
Why claim I am brainwashed and not you? Do you not think that there are people out there who think similarily to me? You'd be pretty ignorant to say there aren't.
i know there are others who think as you do, hence picking your ideas apart and deprogramming you.

and i didnt say there arent. told you not to do that. (scotty! increase the offensive rating on future posts by 10% for this insult!!)

InquisitivePsyche said:
And no - I don't think we are the same age. I am 22.
oh. you look old in your pic.

InquisitivePsyche said:
P.S. I know I can be ignorant at times about many things.. but let's twist and say perhaps, that you are the one being ignorant? You tell me that I shouldn't judge so harshly yet you turn it right around and are judging me just as bad.
good idea. excellent idea! now go ahead and explain why im ignorant :) ill go and make another coffee. how much time you need? i have myspace people to reply to :)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
my head feels funny after writing this :worried: why do i do this to myself?

She's still going to school GoldenDelicious,(wasted money thus far) let them teach her...don't give yourself a headache. :)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
those who have strong opinions that impinge upon the feelings of others had better be ready to defend them.

i have 4 sisters.
i have mainly female friends.
i have several girlfriends.
i care for these people very much.
i will happily do my little bit to challenge unhelpful mindsets that may, in some way, harm those people i care about.
i really disagree with what youre saying, and im picking you apart so that you understand why.
i think it is unhelpful on a personal level (the people i care about) and on a social level (whole societies having fubar mindsets/preconceptions) to let your views go unchallenged on a public board.

i know there are others who think as you do, hence picking your ideas apart and deprogramming you.

and i didnt say there arent. told you not to do that. (scotty! increase the offensive rating on future posts by 10% for this insult!!)

oh. you look old in your pic.

good idea. excellent idea! now go ahead and explain why im ignorant :) ill go and make another coffee. how much time you need? i have myspace people to reply to :)

Haha - the one thing we have in common - you feed off of arguing. It's draining and frankly, I should be studying for a final I have coming up but my mind seems to continue to bring me back here.

You really do miss my points and I am not going to drain myself and pick apart every sentence that you've typed (as you seem to be doing to me). I disagree with you, and unless your sisters/girlfriends, etc act in the manner we speak of, then you shouldn't even be worrying.

My last post. I just hope you take away that I am not degrading WOMEN in general.. I am degrading those who degrade the gender, themselves.

:)
 
Still waiting for a response to this...

IP...conveniently continues to ignore my questions.

Look, hon, I used to sit on my moral high horse once upon time, too. Then, life hit me over the head and I realized, wtf? No one is perfect, least of all me. We all have our human failings and none of us does everything so right that we have a right to be the moral police. Some of the loudest yappers about what the line of morality is have had some pretty dark secrets (if you pay attention to the news, I don't need to write out a list here). You may not, but frankly I think women who judge and slander other women, throw around words like whore and slut, women like THAT do more damage to the image of our gender than a woman who is promiscuous.

A woman who sleeps around really hurts no one but herself, if even that. A woman who uses words like slut and whore is hurting those around her. You may think you are perfectly justified in your judgement, but I have a couple of really great friends you'd call "sluts" and they are amazing women. One is going for her PhD in volconology, she volunteers at a homeless shelter every saturday, and she would and has dropped everything to be there for me when I've needed it. She is someone I can trust with anything, and she has never said anything intentionally unkind about anyone in my presence. The other is a successful photographer with ambition and spirit, the ability to have a group of people in tears from laughter, she's opinionated and intelligent and she really deeply CARES about people. She's the kind of person who gets upset watching the news, and as much as I tease her for her overflowing compassion, I love her for it.

Who are YOU to call them sluts and whores because of what they do on their own time with their bodies? Hell, I even have a friend who's a stripper and while she's got some serious issues due to things that are none of your business, I'd still prefer her company over someone who passes judgement so freely. Damaged and broken, she's still amazingly sweet. These are the things that matter to me in a person. Not who they fuck and how often they do it.

Men - I can see them having a relevant qualm with this sort of thing. Again, I may not agree with it, or I might? But they are dating the woman in question and her sexual history is sometimes part of the equation. But, as a woman, there's no reason for sexual history to mean SO MUCH to you in judging a person's value or worth. And if you think I need to question myself for defending people like my two friends listed here...well...I think I've made my point.

For the record, I do not think you're a bad person, either. Just...very naive, and most likely VERY sheltered. People who have seen both the best and the worst of what life has to offer do not waste so much energy on worrying about what other women - women they don't know or care for - do with their vaginas.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I am not degrading WOMEN in general.. I am degrading those who degrade the gender, themselves.

And that you dense idiot is WOMEN ie:YOURSELF, whether you qualify or not, by perpetuating , believing and using the WORD you perpetuate the stigma and degradation itself.

Print this thread out and take it to one of your classes and discuss freely.

Also ask them how people using the N word would cause any harm to the Black community as a whole and why this is any different than the discussion above.
 
nefertiti said:
Still waiting for a response to this...



For the record, I do not think you're a bad person, either. Just...very naive, and most likely VERY sheltered. People who have seen both the best and the worst of what life has to offer do not waste so much energy on worrying about what other women - women they don't know or care for - do with their vaginas.

See this is where I am being misunderstood. I am NOT judging a woman's worth through her vagina. ALL I was TRYING to get across (but people decided to completely pick it apart) was that I do not agree with the group of women who sleep around due to self esteem and attention issues. I know people as well, who would be considered, "sluts," and they are great people, too. My point (which was talked about in the beginning of this thread), was that I do not like those who give other women a bad name but being attention starved, permiscuous, NOT self assured, etc.

But this seems to have been twisted around.. either that or I was not making myself clear which I thought I was. I am moving on from this thread because there are always going to be people who disagree and have differing opinions but I hope that what you take away is that I am NOT trying to judge women who are self assured, have self respect, etc - I am talking about the OPPOSITE population of women.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Haha - the one thing we have in common - you feed off of arguing. It's draining and frankly, I should be studying for a final I have coming up but my mind seems to continue to bring me back here.

You really do miss my points and I am not going to drain myself and pick apart every sentence that you've typed (as you seem to be doing to me). I disagree with you, and unless your sisters/girlfriends, etc act in the manner we speak of, then you shouldn't even be worrying.

My last post. I just hope you take away that I am not degrading WOMEN in general.. I am degrading those who degrade the gender, themselves.

:)
Again, I ask, who are you to judge? Go back up & read my other post.

InquisitivePsyche said:
See this is where I am being misunderstood. I am NOT judging a woman's worth through her vagina. ALL I was TRYING to get across (but people decided to completely pick it apart) was that I do not agree with the group of women who sleep around due to self esteem and attention issues. I know people as well, who would be considered, "sluts," and they are great people, too. My point (which was talked about in the beginning of this thread), was that I do not like those who give other women a bad name but being attention starved, permiscuous, NOT self assured, etc.
But this seems to have been twisted around.. either that or I was not making myself clear which I thought I was. I am moving on from this thread because there are always going to be people who disagree and have differing opinions but I hope that what you take away is that I am NOT trying to judge women who are self assured, have self respect, etc - I am talking about the OPPOSITE population of women.
You are saying you don't like them, because they are flawed and you don't agree with their method of coping. You are also saying, is, if all these other women where as good & smart & together as you, then they would stop letting men touch their naughty bits & you wouldn't have to think about that.
How's yer sex life?
We are trying to change your opinion, because, as the vast majority of responders on this thread have noted, your opinion is flawed.
 
avidinternet said:
And that you dense idiot is WOMEN ie:YOURSELF, whether you qualify or not, by perpetuating , believing and using the WORD you perpetuate the stigma and degradation itself.

Print this thread out and take it to one of your classes and discuss freely.

Also ask them how people using the N word would cause any harm to the Black community as a whole and why this is any different than the discussion above.
No, by perpetuating and believing or using the word is not degrading myself. That is not what I was trying to explain and I will not further explain myself to a person who feels the need to insult another, thinking it will help get the point across more accurately.
 
HiDnGoD said:
Again, I ask, who are you to judge? Go back up & read my other post.
I understand your other post but what a broad question asking who am I to judge? Everyone judges everyone.. you are doing that to me right now. Do you have opinions about groups of people, people individually, decisions people make, etc... that's you passing judgement. It's just opinion and I am not trying to hurt anyone.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
No, by perpetuating and believing or using the word is not degrading myself. That is not what I was trying to explain and I will not further explain myself to a person who feels the need to insult another, thinking it will help get the point across more accurately.

Yeah sure :rolleyes: and you can't even TOUCH the last part of that debate can you!!! The Black part.
With a ten foot pole... :chomp: Case and Point.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I understand your other post but what a broad question asking who am I to judge? Everyone judges everyone.. you are doing that to me right now. Do you have opinions about groups of people, people individually, decisions people make, etc... that's you passing judgement. It's just opinion and I am not trying to hurt anyone.
I have my opinons, but I recognize when they are flawed(believe it or not). Hence I try not to let it infuse my life. And when I see people acting as you are, then I try to change their behaviour. I don't know you, so I don't honestly care how this all affects your life. But, strangely enough, I care about how your opinions may affect others, who may suffer from your expression of it.
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
Haha - the one thing we have in common - you feed off of arguing. It's draining
you contradicted yourself. if you fed off it, then you wouldnt feel drained. therefore your statement was designed to disarm, and align with me. not happening, stick to the script, stand up for your ideas, or STFU

InquisitivePsyche said:
and frankly, I should be studying for a final I have coming up but my mind seems to continue to bring me back here.
vanity and MEMEME syndrome ala killah

InquisitivePsyche said:
You really do miss my points and I am not going to drain myself and pick apart every sentence that you've typed (as you seem to be doing to me).
no, i get your points very clearly. let me be frank:

your conversation is limited to making statements. you dont discuss. you dont debate. you make statements, vibe with the people that agree, and ignore or distract those that dont.

understand something: i dont give a toss who you are. i dont give a toss how you feel about yourself. i dont give a toss about what kind of princess you are or think you are in real life. i dont give a toss what peope in real life think or say about you.

i saw your myspace. i dont give a shit, except you have a nice dog. what i want you to do, unless you just want me to use you as an emotional boxing bag, is defend your ideas, using this format: "my name is IP. i think THIS becasue of THAT, and THAT" and then when someone says "oh but what about THAT and THAT, how do they fit in with what you said before?" then you actually ahve to link them all up and say "THAT is in accordance to THAT because of THIS and THAT in teh context of THIS" and actually have a meaningful conversation

InquisitivePsyche said:
I disagree with you,
fine. why.

InquisitivePsyche said:
and unless your sisters/girlfriends, etc act in the manner we speak of, then you shouldn't even be worrying.
im not worried, but i will defend the rights of others to live their lives without harming anyone without being harmed with archaic idiot ideas regurgitated by people who really odnt understand what theyre saying. ie - you.

InquisitivePsyche said:
My last post. I just hope you take away that I am not degrading WOMEN in general.. I am degrading those who degrade the gender, themselves.
:)
like this is your last post LOL
 
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nefertiti said:
Still waiting for a response to this...



For the record, I do not think you're a bad person, either. Just...very naive, and most likely VERY sheltered. People who have seen both the best and the worst of what life has to offer do not waste so much energy on worrying about what other women - women they don't know or care for - do with their vaginas.


I can't believe you're all judgeing this girl b/c she has her own opinion of what a slut is.
You've made an assumption that she must be sheltered b/c she uses the term slut? I would say this is pretty naive!
I use the term slut, am I sheltered and naive? FAR FROM! I fight for women's rights all the time. In my eyes, any man or woman that sleeps around is a slut. Is a slut a bad thing? It all depends who you ask.
I think you and GD are just looking for a scrap!
 
avidinternet said:
And that you dense idiot is WOMEN ie:YOURSELF, whether you qualify or not, by perpetuating , believing and using the WORD you perpetuate the stigma and degradation itself.

Print this thread out and take it to one of your classes and discuss freely.

Also ask them how people using the N word would cause any harm to the Black community as a whole and why this is any different than the discussion above.


comparing the N word with the word slut is an idiotic comparrision
To have to resort to name calling shows who the smarter one is in this debate
 
HiDnGoD said:
Again, I ask, who are you to judge? Go back up & read my other post.


You are saying you don't like them, because they are flawed and you don't agree with their method of coping. You are also saying, is, if all these other women where as good & smart & together as you, then they would stop letting men touch their naughty bits & you wouldn't have to think about that.
How's yer sex life?
We are trying to change your opinion, because, as the vast majority of responders on this thread have noted, your opinion is flawed.


babe, not everyone agrees that her opinion is flawed :-)
 
Based on the original post, sleeping with 4 guys a year for 5 years is not slutty at all. That would make me a gigantic slut. If she doesn't want a relationship, it's probably for a reason and your friend shouldn't try and force it. Maybe she was fucked over by guy(s) in her past, and has a bit of a protective barrier she put up to protect herself. If he really wants to see how she feels, he should just start dating a different girl, and talk to her about it, and feel out her response from there.

Also: I would not care if a woman slept with 100 guys, as long as she is only sleeping with me, and is STD free.
 
blueta2 said:
I can't believe you're all judgeing this girl b/c she has her own opinion of what a slut is.
You've made an assumption that she must be sheltered b/c she uses the term slut? I would say this is pretty naive!
I use the term slut, am I sheltered and naive? FAR FROM! I fight for women's rights all the time. In my eyes, any man or woman that sleeps around is a slut. Is a slut a bad thing? It all depends who you ask.
I think you and GD are just looking for a scrap!
i dont look for scraps...i leave them :evil:

lol actually its just that my sensibilities are offended about a couple of things
 
GoldenDelicious said:
girls who like sex are not neccessarily sluts
girls who have a lot of partners are not neccessarily sluts

i think the girl has been pretty clear with her desires, hes made the choice to stay with her (for whatever reason - either he loves her, is infatuated, has a weak personality, whatever) and point blank you should have stayed out of it

she likes him, he likes her, they have a relationship of sorts, theres lots of honesty there, imo whether shes a slut or not is irrelevant - whats relevant is that it was STFU time and you didnt STFU and now people are feeling bad

big fuckup, you need to apologize, and never air such things in public again

ciao

Word.
 
blueta2 said:
I can't believe you're all judgeing this girl b/c she has her own opinion of what a slut is.
You've made an assumption that she must be sheltered b/c she uses the term slut? I would say this is pretty naive!
I use the term slut, am I sheltered and naive? FAR FROM! I fight for women's rights all the time. In my eyes, any man or woman that sleeps around is a slut. Is a slut a bad thing? It all depends who you ask.
I think you and GD are just looking for a scrap!
Well I am surely not looking for a scrap.But I will ask, who the hell gives people the authority to walk around calling others sluts,whores,and such?
I am not fond of calling girls sluts or whatever. I was not exactly a virgin when I got with my husband.I do not by any means expect any one to call me a slut!
I do not use the term slut loosely..But honestly, it is non of my business how many partners any one has had.The number of bed mates will not determine what type of a person he/she is. I dont know why people get all worked up because they meet some one who has had 10 or so mates.They right away peg them as a slut, when the inner personality is giving, caring,sweet, etc.
If a girl wants to have many mates in her day there is no problem with that. If a girl wants to have a "f" friend than fine, let her! Who gives a sweet shit!
No one should be pointing fingers and calling names like that. So jane doe may be a "slut", as long as you yourself are not sleeping with her, who the fuck cares....But you yourself (no not blu, people in general) may not be a slut, however you are a bitch,packrat,asshole,theif,liar,etc....Again, who the hell am I to pass judgement and call you any of those names..
My question is Am I a slut because needto was not my first????
Ok so maybe if this chick was screwing bob, left his house gave joe a blowjob, left joes car,got anal screwed by sam, then met up with joes dad for a quickie, then went over to mikes for a little oral, then went to sams sisters for a dyke session, then off to johns for a nother quickie, then to the local football dome and got chained by all the players, etc......then maybe one could pass judgement..But the original girl that this thread was built upon does not seem like any type of "slut or whore" to me!!!
Thanks
 
Pikaberdot said:
Based on the original post, sleeping with 4 guys a year for 5 years is not slutty at all. That would make me a gigantic slut. If she doesn't want a relationship, it's probably for a reason and your friend shouldn't try and force it. Maybe she was fucked over by guy(s) in her past, and has a bit of a protective barrier she put up to protect herself. If he really wants to see how she feels, he should just start dating a different girl, and talk to her about it, and feel out her response from there.

Also: I would not care if a woman slept with 100 guys, as long as she is only sleeping with me, and is STD free.

did u not read my updated info post (page 7?). based on that i stand by my previous assertions that this bitch is a filthy disease carrying whore.
 
Angel said:
Well I am surely not looking for a scrap.But I will ask, who the hell gives people the authority to walk around calling others sluts,whores,and such?
I am not fond of calling girls sluts or whatever. I was not exactly a virgin when I got with my husband.I do not by any means expect any one to call me a slut!
I do not use the term slut loosely..But honestly, it is non of my business how many partners any one has had.The number of bed mates will not determine what type of a person he/she is. I dont know why people get all worked up because they meet some one who has had 10 or so mates.They right away peg them as a slut, when the inner personality is giving, caring,sweet, etc.
If a girl wants to have many mates in her day there is no problem with that. If a girl wants to have a "f" friend than fine, let her! Who gives a sweet shit!
No one should be pointing fingers and calling names like that. So jane doe may be a "slut", as long as you yourself are not sleeping with her, who the fuck cares....But you yourself (no not blu, people in general) may not be a slut, however you are a bitch,packrat,asshole,theif,liar,etc....Again, who the hell am I to pass judgement and call you any of those names..
My question is Am I a slut because needto was not my first????
Ok so maybe if this chick was screwing bob, left his house gave joe a blowjob, left joes car,got anal screwed by sam, then met up with joes dad for a quickie, then went over to mikes for a little oral, then went to sams sisters for a dyke session, then off to johns for a nother quickie, then to the local football dome and got chained by all the players, etc......then maybe one could pass judgement..But the original girl that this thread was built upon does not seem like any type of "slut or whore" to me!!!
Thanks
Ok I won't call you a slut..

HO!!




J/K :>)
 
Yarg! said:
did u not read my updated info post (page 7?). based on that i stand by my previous assertions that this bitch is a filthy disease carrying whore.
Tru dat.
based on other's comments about sluts in general, this thread has taken on a life far beyond it's original expectancy.
 
Angel said:
Well I am surely not looking for a scrap.But I will ask, who the hell gives people the authority to walk around calling others sluts,whores,and such?
I am not fond of calling girls sluts or whatever. I was not exactly a virgin when I got with my husband.I do not by any means expect any one to call me a slut!
I do not use the term slut loosely..But honestly, it is non of my business how many partners any one has had.The number of bed mates will not determine what type of a person he/she is. I dont know why people get all worked up because they meet some one who has had 10 or so mates.They right away peg them as a slut, when the inner personality is giving, caring,sweet, etc.
If a girl wants to have many mates in her day there is no problem with that. If a girl wants to have a "f" friend than fine, let her! Who gives a sweet shit!
No one should be pointing fingers and calling names like that. So jane doe may be a "slut", as long as you yourself are not sleeping with her, who the fuck cares....But you yourself (no not blu, people in general) may not be a slut, however you are a bitch,packrat,asshole,theif,liar,etc....Again, who the hell am I to pass judgement and call you any of those names..
My question is Am I a slut because needto was not my first????
Ok so maybe if this chick was screwing bob, left his house gave joe a blowjob, left joes car,got anal screwed by sam, then met up with joes dad for a quickie, then went over to mikes for a little oral, then went to sams sisters for a dyke session, then off to johns for a nother quickie, then to the local football dome and got chained by all the players, etc......then maybe one could pass judgement..But the original girl that this thread was built upon does not seem like any type of "slut or whore" to me!!!
Thanks

I never said the girl in question in the original post was a slut. I said IP is allowed to use the term as she sits fit. The word slut is all relative and depends what people deem as "slutty".
I was not an angel when I was dating, was I a slut at times? Yep, I was!
If you screw everything that moves (male or female), I would consider that a slut.
I can bet the ranch you do lots of name calling where there is no merit.
Should we also question whom we use the term bitch for? I mean someone may be standing up for themselves and be called a bitch, others may call her a fighter.
Let's not all get politically correct now.....let's call a spade a spade!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut
 
Angel said:
Well I am surely not looking for a scrap.But I will ask, who the hell gives people the authority to walk around calling others sluts,whores,and such?
I am not fond of calling girls sluts or whatever. I was not exactly a virgin when I got with my husband.I do not by any means expect any one to call me a slut!
I do not use the term slut loosely..But honestly, it is non of my business how many partners any one has had.The number of bed mates will not determine what type of a person he/she is. I dont know why people get all worked up because they meet some one who has had 10 or so mates.They right away peg them as a slut, when the inner personality is giving, caring,sweet, etc.
If a girl wants to have many mates in her day there is no problem with that. If a girl wants to have a "f" friend than fine, let her! Who gives a sweet shit!
No one should be pointing fingers and calling names like that. So jane doe may be a "slut", as long as you yourself are not sleeping with her, who the fuck cares....But you yourself (no not blu, people in general) may not be a slut, however you are a bitch,packrat,asshole,theif,liar,etc....Again, who the hell am I to pass judgement and call you any of those names..
My question is Am I a slut because needto was not my first????
Ok so maybe if this chick was screwing bob, left his house gave joe a blowjob, left joes car,got anal screwed by sam, then met up with joes dad for a quickie, then went over to mikes for a little oral, then went to sams sisters for a dyke session, then off to johns for a nother quickie, then to the local football dome and got chained by all the players, etc......then maybe one could pass judgement..But the original girl that this thread was built upon does not seem like any type of "slut or whore" to me!!!
Thanks

one more thing...I bet if Needto cheated on you with another girl, I bet the word whore/slut would come out of your mouth??!
Am I wrong?
 
Angel said:
Well I am surely not looking for a scrap.But I will ask, who the hell gives people the authority to walk around calling others sluts,whores,and such?
I am not fond of calling girls sluts or whatever. I was not exactly a virgin when I got with my husband.I do not by any means expect any one to call me a slut!
I do not use the term slut loosely..But honestly, it is non of my business how many partners any one has had.The number of bed mates will not determine what type of a person he/she is. I dont know why people get all worked up because they meet some one who has had 10 or so mates.They right away peg them as a slut, when the inner personality is giving, caring,sweet, etc.
If a girl wants to have many mates in her day there is no problem with that. If a girl wants to have a "f" friend than fine, let her! Who gives a sweet shit!
No one should be pointing fingers and calling names like that. So jane doe may be a "slut", as long as you yourself are not sleeping with her, who the fuck cares....But you yourself (no not blu, people in general) may not be a slut, however you are a bitch,packrat,asshole,theif,liar,etc....Again, who the hell am I to pass judgement and call you any of those names..
My question is Am I a slut because needto was not my first????
Ok so maybe if this chick was screwing bob, left his house gave joe a blowjob, left joes car,got anal screwed by sam, then met up with joes dad for a quickie, then went over to mikes for a little oral, then went to sams sisters for a dyke session, then off to johns for a nother quickie, then to the local football dome and got chained by all the players, etc......then maybe one could pass judgement..But the original girl that this thread was built upon does not seem like any type of "slut or whore" to me!!!
Thanks


Aside from what Angel said, blueta, I am not judging her. Nor am I looking for a scrap. In fact, I reached out to her within her first couple of days here offering a little bit of "newbie advice" because I thought she seemed sweet and didn't quite get the flow of the place yet (not that I do, but I lurked for a little before I jumped in and started posting). I am not calling her a bad person. I am calling out her OPINIONS which she has continually failed to back up with any solid reasoning. There is a striking difference between judging a person, and calling out their opinions and the flaws in those opinions.

I also did not say she was sheltered. I said "possibly sheltered." Frankly, anyone who has seen real struggle either firsthand or in those we love...well you'd know that there are so many other things that should take precidence over worrying about someone's private sex life. There are so many other things in life, and in people that should be immesurably more important. It is one thing to say, "I do not choose to live that way." It is one thing to say, "I do not choose to be around/date people who live that way." It is another entirely to say, "People who live like that are a disgrace to my gender, sluts, whores, yadda yadda yadda." It's just completely unneccesary girl on girl violence that does...what? What good comes from it?

Nothing.
 
nefertiti said:
Aside from what Angel said, blueta, I am not judging her. Nor am I looking for a scrap. In fact, I reached out to her within her first couple of days here offering a little bit of "newbie advice" because I thought she seemed sweet and didn't quite get the flow of the place yet (not that I do, but I lurked for a little before I jumped in and started posting). I am not calling her a bad person. I am calling out her OPINIONS which she has continually failed to back up with any solid reasoning. There is a striking difference between judging a person, and calling out their opinions and the flaws in those opinions.

I also did not say she was sheltered. I said "possibly sheltered." Frankly, anyone who has seen real struggle either firsthand or in those we love...well you'd know that there are so many other things that should take precidence over worrying about someone's private sex life. There are so many other things in life, and in people that should be immesurably more important. It is one thing to say, "I do not choose to live that way." It is one thing to say, "I do not choose to be around/date people who live that way." It is another entirely to say, "People who live like that are a disgrace to my gender, sluts, whores, yadda yadda yadda." It's just completely unneccesary girl on girl violence that does...what? What good comes from it?

Nothing.

I don't know IP or her beliefs, values or anything for that matter. But I don't think you dis the female population for calling a spade a spade.

Giving ppl titles is reality, we all do it, and if you like to sleep around, that's totally cool, just know the ramifications that go along with it.
And what's this "helping out a newbie" you're also a newbie no?!
 
blueta2 said:
I don't know IP or her beliefs, values or anything for that matter. But I don't think you dis the female population for calling a spade a spade.

Giving ppl titles is reality, we all do it, and if you like to sleep around, that's totally cool, just know the ramifications that go along with it.
And what's this "helping out a newbie" you're also a newbie no?!

It was like in the vein of "from one to another." I was making sure the fellas didn't run her off with the tit pic requests, told her I'd gotten the same thing.

I think there is just a real divide on what you and I see as a "spade." I do not think having sex, if no one is getting hurt, makes a girl a slut (which, by the way, invalidates your example of angel and needto cheating. Someone in that equation is being hurt by the hypothetical girl's actions). So beyond that...there's really not much we can say on the subject that will get us past that point. :whatever:
 
nefertiti said:
It was like in the vein of "from one to another." I was making sure the fellas didn't run her off with the tit pic requests, told her I'd gotten the same thing.

I think there is just a real divide on what you and I see as a "spade." I do not think having sex, if no one is getting hurt, makes a girl a slut (which, by the way, invalidates your example of angel and needto cheating. Someone in that equation is being hurt by the hypothetical girl's actions). So beyond that...there's really not much we can say on the subject that will get us past that point. :whatever:

that's why I said it's all relative......Trust me, most ppl that screw anything that moves for long enough are hurting pretty bad inside.
 
blue...I don't disagree with that. Which is why I said earlier that it's how we treat each other that matters to me. A person who is hurting themselves, or acting out on existing hurt...I want to hug them, not call them names.
 
blueta2 said:
well people who like to steal are called thieves, maybe they just like to steal?!
Every body has sex, and most healthy people like it. This discussion is just about to what degree they indulge.
Stealing a little, or stealing a lot, is generally recognized as bad.
 
HiDnGoD said:
Every body has sex, and most healthy people like it. This discussion is just about to what degree they indulge.
Stealing a little, or stealing a lot, is generally recognized as bad.


not unless you're Robin Hood or the government, then stealing it allowed :-)
 
blueta2 said:
one more thing...I bet if Needto cheated on you with another girl, I bet the word whore/slut would come out of your mouth??!
Am I wrong?
no,but the term asshole comes to mind.
 
CMarc said:
In reference to Needto?
well yeah.I mean if he were to cheat on me what is the point in calling the other girl a slut.I would call needto an ass because the end result would be me getting hurt or whatever
 
All this because IP doesn't understand the power of a word that was begun by Men to describe and degrade women and put them in their place...which in their eyes was below men.

Not a hard point to understand.

If some women want to perpetuate (because of their lack of intelligence) the use of a word thats intention is to push them down, then they get what they deserve.

Unfortunately, "they" hurt the rest of the women that get the "Big Picture".
 
InquisitivePsyche said:
I am not talking about a one night stand. I am talking about (in reference to this thread) the guy developing feelings for her.

One night stand - different story.
I don't do one night stands
3 day minimum rule
consecutive

PS labor day weekend is great for a 3 day stand
 
wow my fucking thread got hijacked big time by the usual motley crue of thread hijackers. thanks.
 
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