slin for a 19 year old?

[Rio 2001]

Alright... I usually play the part of a silent observer, but tonight I feel obliged to put my two cents in.

YOU'RE 19 YEARS OLD. You are at your sexual peak, meaning your body is naturally producing tons of test, yet you feel rushed to get your beach body so you negate your natural production with and insane amount of exogenous test. And you say you have poor genetics... How do you know how you respond to AAS if you've never used them before? I have some pretty bad genetics, but I didn't start using AAS until I put on about 80lbs NATURALLY. I'm currently on my fifth cycle of test enanthate @ 500mg/week... THAT'S IT... and I'm gaining like a madman. I feel like a broken record saying this, but if your training and diet are up to par, you shouldn't need a gram of test to see gains unless you're at your genetic limits (which you obviously aren't).

From your posts I can tell that you've researched AAS use only minimally. I can't tell you how glad I am that I researched this stuff for a year before starting a cycle. Read, learn, and use the search function on multiple boards (not just this one) before you even think about starting another cycle (let alone using insulin). Not intended to be a flame, but I know how eager I was at 19 to be huge so I want to help steer you clear of the pitfalls of teenage ambition.

One last note: I refuse to take advice from anyone who refers to the measurement of insulin in IU's.

You should post more...
I´m confused about your remark on insulin and IU...what do you mean? The fact that the TYPE of insulin is not being specified?

 

[jotun79]

Thanks for the encouragement, Rio I usually get so wrapped up in reading various threads that, before I know it, it's time for bed. Regarding the insulin... insulin is measured in units, not iu's.

 

[Rio 2001]

IU = international UNIT
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[jotun79]

You are quite right. I forget that my sense of humor can be hard to pick up on at times... what I meant was that it is my personal preference (and that of most of the medical community) that insulin dosages be stated in units rather than the abbreviated IU's. A lot of prescriptions for insulin for diabetics were written with sloppy handwriting ("IU" was interpreted for "10") and resulted in bad things for the patients, so nowadays it is generally accepted that "units" be used. Lilly uses this standard on their insulin. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Rio 2001]

Yes, that was quite subtle, LOL...

 

[poopypants]

jimmyjones is a fuckin idiot. this has got to be the worst thread ive ever seen here. NO YOU SHOULD NOT BE TAKING INSULIN YOU ARE 19 YEARS OLD WITH ONE FUCKING CYCLE UNDER YOUR BELT. wait til youve got 15 or 20 cycles experiences. it'll still be there. this is bullshit how jimmyjones goes on ramblin about how safe it is and shit. hes gonna fuckin kill someone with his advice.

bro if you are not happy with the gains from AAS alone after your first cycle then you are doing something wrong.

 

[vinnie]

big pump,
sorry to jump on the wagon but obviously everyone here is concerned about the decision you are making or have made and thats the reason why we are giving you shit. it seems like you keep defending your decision in hopes to get someone to co-sign for you. if you did any reading on cycles or doses you would know not to do that amount. you cant go into juice blindly, especially not insuline in addition. your not giving yourself any room for error here. learn as you go man. i did a 400mg a week of deca for my first cycle and i was happy. dont rush into this or your gonna get fucked up.

 

[JimmyJonesJunior]

hey big pump , its all about lifting super heavy, low reps. pound the living shit out of those muscles .

1gram of test + 4500cals at 170lb.. im sure u gained shit load sof muscle mass but u know what makes muscles look big is water.

are u glycogen supercompensated?.
how much protein daily? and carbs?

u gained 25-lbs? . i assume half of that is water 12lb of water
remaining 12lb are a mixture of lean muscle mass and fat.
i dont think u added much fat.

so id say a solid 8-9 pound of PURE MUSCLE MASS and remaining is fat.

u know 9lb of pure muscle is immense. makes u look double ur previous size.

if u dontlook double. or something then u may have gained only like 6lb muscle 6lb fat (from those 12lb).

taking insulin will increase gains dramatically and halt all catabolic hormones.

insulin basically will SHOVE ALL PROTEIN AMINO ACIDS into muscle cells by force and upregulate all kind of shit.

so insulin for transport of proteins + steroids for increased sythesis = mega gains.

without insulin, u wont have the transport to bring ur proteins to ur muscle cells properly even with steroids.

u need insulin to trnasport everything at ur super high protein sythesis rate that ur getting from 1gram of test. and masive protein intake.

it only cost like 20$

just need like 10iu twice a day or so . or once a day should be enough.

humalog preferrably cuz its faster acting but do ur research

 

[KillerLoop]

Holy shit......how fucked up.

JimmyJonesJunior shut the fuck up! You just advised this kid to take 20ius of slin a day and didn't even talk about needing proper carb intake along with it etc.

Just fuck off you idiot.

 

[Little Rage]

JimmyJonesJunior is starting to remind me of AMAF.