heavyweightchamp
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Training begins now, who you got and why??? Silva or Lydell?
MikeMartial said:Wicked video clip, Alex! Nice find.
Tough call on this fight, but I'm sure as hell not missing it. At 6'2, I'd think Chuck has the reach advantage over Wanerlei at 5'11. And the way these two swing, that could very well be the deciding factor.
heavyweightchamp said:Dude their not fucking you with the late shift at work again? Call off way in advance any excuse you can think of.
Silva is nothing like randy, and if you like balls to the wall he is your man NOT chuck. Hes fought much better and much heavier competition than chuck. Do yourself a fav. and watch the liddell vs. rampage jackson fight, then watch silva vs jackson (either 1, or 2 with two being much more brutal). It will be a good fight but wanderlei is going to win this one. As far as KO power goes, wand is the first person (fedor couldnt even do it) to KO Ironhead fujita, and he weighed 35lbs less than fujita at the time. And being ko'd? hasnt happened in 8 years with fights against the likes of saku (3 times), MARK HUNT, CRO-COP, rampage (twice), arona, and fujita. Wand by KO in round 2.heavyweightchamp said:Dude I dont knwo much about Wandilea Silva but I do know Chuck Lidell has KO power and many compare Silva to our version of Randy Cotoure and Lidell has had his way with him lately. I love Lidell's style, same as mine balls to the freckin wall and get him outta their as fast as possible.
Someone tell me about Silva, I dont know too much.
Ianhockey91 said:Silva is nothing like randy, and if you like balls to the wall he is your man NOT chuck. Hes fought much better and much heavier competition than chuck. Do yourself a fav. and watch the liddell vs. rampage jackson fight, then watch silva vs jackson (either 1, or 2 with two being much more brutal). It will be a good fight but wanderlei is going to win this one. As far as KO power goes, wand is the first person (fedor couldnt even do it) to KO Ironhead fujita, and he weighed 35lbs less than fujita at the time. And being ko'd? hasnt happened in 8 years with fights against the likes of saku (3 times), MARK HUNT, CRO-COP, rampage (twice), arona, and fujita. Wand by KO in round 2.
|3ossman said:chuck will lose this fight to the dismay of all the UFC fans, sorry. Wanderlei is in a different league. Striking, ground game, cardio are all on silva's side.
and if Tim Silvia is a coach for TUF 4 i will never watch a UFC fight again
heavyweightchamp said:Ive heard watch the lidell/ rampage fight then watch the silva/ rampage fight by everyone so far but in my opinion thats not a fair assesment to judge whos a better fighter on that night and style match ups. Ive seen Lennox get Ko'd by rahman but lennox dominated Iron mike and that doesnt tell me rahman was anywhere near the level Iron mike fought at or better. Thats the great thing about fighting, whos the better fighter on that night and what style had the advantage.
And I ve seen mark hunt fight, decent fighter but thats also hard to believe that a guy like him knocked out the best fighter in the sport...
Im no fan of anyone in particular, Im a professional myself so I dont really have time to follow fighter's career but I do have admiration for certain people in boxing past, present, and future. But as far as this style of fighting it makes it fun to watch with all the brawling.
Ive been seeing alot of this debt collector guy lately, LMFAO. What a joke. This juice maniac comes into the ring like 6'7 270lbs. has the hardest stare in the sport, acts bad as hell, gets right in your face, and then proceeds to get beat down... He lost all 3 fights I watched and 2 by KO, my man has the most terrible hand skills Ive seen in professional fighting (any style). In my opinion he's just a big dude, thats it! Theres alot of big guys at any gym and even on this site but that doesnt mean they know how to fight. Im just wondering who the hell he beat to get where he did?! To me he is very uncoordinated and nothing but a big punching bag. lol.
Anyway tell me more or give me some links to this Sliva dude, give me some substance for this maniac.
redsamurai said:LMFAO!!! How does this guy even get fights in pride?? He's a joke!! You're 100% correct in your assessment of his striking skills. I think I would actually take a free punch from that guy.....his technique is so terrible he can't generate any power unless he's lunging his whole body forward.....at which point he usually gets it right to the face. Does anyone know how Mr. Debt Collector <snicker> came up through the ranks? Maybe I'm just not seeing his hidden talent?
mesco said:for those not in the know...
chuck vs rampage part 1 of 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gSyqR4cSKW8&search=chuck rampage
chuck vs rampage part 2 of 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=riliIXiUT4Y&search=chuck rampage
silva vs rampage 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0oRq_0uMmZw&search=rampage silva
silva vs rampage 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vRRynD-wjT0&search=rampage silva
toxicsambo said:If Silva takes the fight to the ground, he'll win, if he can get close enough without getting knuckled up. If he stands up with Lidell, he will get bitch slapped. I say Lidell regardless.
Ianhockey91 said:Silva is nothing like randy, and if you like balls to the wall he is your man NOT chuck. Hes fought much better and much heavier competition than chuck. Do yourself a fav. and watch the liddell vs. rampage jackson fight, then watch silva vs jackson (either 1, or 2 with two being much more brutal). It will be a good fight but wanderlei is going to win this one. As far as KO power goes, wand is the first person (fedor couldnt even do it) to KO Ironhead fujita, and he weighed 35lbs less than fujita at the time. And being ko'd? hasnt happened in 8 years with fights against the likes of saku (3 times), MARK HUNT, CRO-COP, rampage (twice), arona, and fujita. Wand by KO in round 2.
redsamurai said:LMFAO!!! How does this guy even get fights in pride?? He's a joke!! You're 100% correct in your assessment of his striking skills. I think I would actually take a free punch from that guy.....his technique is so terrible he can't generate any power unless he's lunging his whole body forward.....at which point he usually gets it right to the face. Does anyone know how Mr. Debt Collector <snicker> came up through the ranks? Maybe I'm just not seeing his hidden talent?
|3ossman said:dude, liddell stood up with wanderlie before and got lit the fuck up, are you kidding me, i think bitch slapped is a bit rediculous. chuck is better now than he was when he fought silva the first time, but like i said before silva is in a different league.
|3ossman said:a couple years ago liddell fought him over at pride fc
heavyweightchamp said:Ive heard watch the lidell/ rampage fight then watch the silva/ rampage fight by everyone so far but in my opinion thats not a fair assesment to judge whos a better fighter on that night and style match ups. Ive seen Lennox get Ko'd by rahman but lennox dominated Iron mike and that doesnt tell me rahman was anywhere near the level Iron mike fought at or better. Thats the great thing about fighting, whos the better fighter on that night and what style had the advantage.
And I ve seen mark hunt fight, decent fighter but thats also hard to believe that a guy like him knocked out the best fighter in the sport...
Im no fan of anyone in particular, Im a professional myself so I dont really have time to follow fighter's career but I do have admiration for certain people in boxing past, present, and future. But as far as this style of fighting it makes it fun to watch with all the brawling.
Ive been seeing alot of this debt collector guy lately, LMFAO. What a joke. This juice maniac comes into the ring like 6'7 270lbs. has the hardest stare in the sport, acts bad as hell, gets right in your face, and then proceeds to get beat down... He lost all 3 fights I watched and 2 by KO, my man has the most terrible hand skills Ive seen in professional fighting (any style). In my opinion he's just a big dude, thats it! Theres alot of big guys at any gym and even on this site but that doesnt mean they know how to fight. Im just wondering who the hell he beat to get where he did?! To me he is very uncoordinated and nothing but a big punching bag. lol.
Anyway tell me more or give me some links to this Sliva dude, give me some substance for this maniac.
That would be a very bad idea for chuck, silva is a Black belt in bjj chucks purple level from what i hear.Jacob Creutzfeldt said:My opinion has changed. After seeing the beating Silva put on Ironhead, I'm speechless. Silva is pure pressure. I don't think Chuck will be able to set his feet to counter. Good fight though. Silva by mid TKO. Perhaps we'll see Chuck use his ground game.
Ianhockey91 said:That would be a very bad idea for chuck, silva is a Black belt in bjj chucks purple level from what i hear.
Ianhockey91 said:That would be a very bad idea for chuck, silva is a Black belt in bjj chucks purple level from what i hear.
Nope, he wrestled in highschool.Jacob Creutzfeldt said:And a lot of successful wrestlers with no bjj ranking have demolished bjj guys via ground and pound ie Tito vs. Elvis Sinosic and Randy Couture vs. Vitor Belfort III. I think Chuck is a former Div I wrestler.
Ianhockey91 said:Nope, he wrestled in highschool.
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:Multiple sources lie about his wrestling background then, including his training camp:
http://www.slokickboxing.com/instructors.htm
http://www.extremeprosports.com/ful...uck_liddell_training_fighting_techniques.html
Care to refute the claim?
Ianhockey91 said:My mistake. However is site says hes ranked number 1 in the world, what is he ranked number 1 in the world in though? Also look at fujita (who is a good wrestler and outweighed silva by 35lbs) silva handled him on the ground quite well against fujita. In any event i have wand winning this one unless chuck uses his magical "kempo thumbs".
ass_face said:Belts are highly overrated... that being said... I do agree with you that Silva would most likely be better on the ground... although he only has 2 legitimate submission wins.
I think Silva is the better fighter, but I think it will be a good fight. I can only go on how well Chuck did against Rampage and how Silva did against Rampage. If thats an indicator.... Chuck is fucked.
obsessis said:the good thing about this fight is it will open the eyes of all of the TUF fans of other organizations. most of the fans now are very new and think that UFC is the end all of MMA. I think Chuck has a tough fight ahead of him and I don't know if he'll win. Silva will most definitely get the "accidental" fingers in the eye just like Randy, Tito and probably other tough fighters chuck goes against.
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:And a lot of successful wrestlers with no bjj ranking have demolished bjj guys via ground and pound ie Tito vs. Elvis Sinosic and Randy Couture vs. Vitor Belfort III. I think Chuck is a former Div I wrestler.
gjohnson5 said:Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie... sheesh That was an ass kicking
Ugh your gonna make me work for this ok. (btw the 2nd coture fight there was an eyepoke i dont know how the hell you missed it, they fing stopped the fight for a few secs bc of it.)Kane Fan said:Liddell Coture 2 fine eyepoke no problem
Liddel Coture 3 no eye poke
Liddell Ortiz no eye poke
you can claim eye poke but if you can't back it up with a vid, it's just some hateraid baby
Ianhockey91 said:Ugh your gonna make me work for this ok. (btw the 2nd coture fight there was an eyepoke i dont know how the hell you missed it, they fing stopped the fight for a few secs bc of it.)
Anyway im sure i can dig you up so photos, a good 6 or more fighters have complained of this, and that includes some who have wins over him.
Lee said:I got Chuck on this one. Silva is damn good, no doubt, but he is much to cocky to win against someone who hits like Liddell.
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