SIgns of liver damage.

[bigrand]

Hey bros,

Ive been on 50mg dbol ED for the past 6 weeks (loefler tabs) and am about to start 20mg of halo 5 days a week for 3 weeks. Am curious as to signs of liver stress i can look for. I know about jaundice, clay colored stools, and pain in the upper right abdomen......anything else? Ive had some pain behind the right shoulder blade for a few weeks, but it feels more like muscle (it feels better in different positions and when relaxed) from stifflegged deads and rear delt and trap work.
I will be taking a week off from the bol before i use the halo.

 

[IronFist]

You'll see a yellow tint to your eyes before any real damage is done...I've been on orals alot longer than that...Are you using any supps? I usually take ALA, milk thistle, and Tyler's, overkill? maybe but I'd rather be overly cautious...

 

[bigrand]

I take 900-1200mg ALA ed. Im getting tired of them though, i feel like shit in the mornings, i dont sleep and i feel sore and lethargic. I dont know about overtraining, i dont think i am, i only go 5 days a week for about 1 to 1-1/2 hours each session max. I kinda wanna skip the next 2 weeks of bol and cut already. Thats what i was worried about, the halo in my cutting portion of the cycle, i know its a bitch on the liver. Ive been thinking about liver sides a little more latley.

BTW, how long does it take to restore normal liver values (i will be using ALA post cycle to help with this)?

 

[Jeff_rys]

you don't need milk tistle

You'll see a yellow tint to your eyes before any real damage is done...I've been on orals alot longer than that...Are you using any supps? I usually take ALA, milk thistle, and Tyler's, overkill? maybe but I'd rather be overly cautious...

no, it's not overkill since only the ALA and Tyler's should be considered.

Jeff

 

[padycakes_16]

remember loeffer are underdosed

your probally only getting 40 mg a day which isnt to bad but dont stay that high foir too long, throw in some ala at 1000 mg day, and drink a ton of water!! you will be fine

hope this helps

 

[easye]

From my experience with dbol, the soreness caused by stress to your liver is easy to identify. On myself I have noticed it on the lower part of my liver. At the bottom of your rib cage, above your hip bone, shove your fingers up and under your ribs. Soreness here is a sign of liver stress from dbol. Just my opion.

I'M NOT A DOCTOR BUT I PLAY ONE ON T.V.
EASYE

 

[jboldman]

Re: you don't need milk tistle

That's probably true since tylers already has milk thistle in it!

no, it's not overkill since only the ALA and Tyler's should be considered.

Jeff

 

[bigrand]

It seems i can pop bol like candy. I go 75mgs some days and dont feel any different (a little bit stronger). Im worried more about the halo i will be using. im keeping it at a safe dose, but i wanna be prepared for signs, even with ALA.

 

[IronFist]

Re: Re: you don't need milk tistle

That's probably true since tylers already has milk thistle in it!

True, but only 16mg which really doesn't amount to shit...

 

[panerai]

You can run blood test for liver enzymes. It's not expensive, at all. Instead of guessing and poking your rib cage, you will get the clear picture.