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Shoulder width and AAS

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soshesblowinme

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I know that wide grip pull-ups can make your shoulders wider by stretching your clavicle and scapula (SP?). What Im wondering is how much can your clavicle and scapula stretch, from working out? The reason Im asking this on the anabolic board instead of the training board is because Im also wanting to know if the use of AAS will increase how much they will stretch? Does anybody know how much width you can add to your shoulders by doing this? Thanks bros for any info you might beable to give me on this.

Sosheblowinme
 
I dont know much about it. I read it in a training article in an old musclemag that I have. Ive been buying the sorry muscletech promoting pieces of shit for years now. And every once in a while I go through the old ones and read up on things. The article that mentioned this was talking about Frank Zane and how he only did exercises that would improve his shape. And that he did wide grip pull-ups because there are able to stretch the clavicle and scapula and make the shoulders and lats wider without adding muscle to them.
 
wide grip chins will make your lats wider. as for the stretching of the scapula and clavicle i really dont' have any knowledge for you there. i really dont' see how it WOULD stretch it though (but like i said, im no expert)

doing lots of wide chins will make your lats wider. working your delts will make your shoulders more broad.

i'll give it a bump though... this is interesting
 
Oh and Ripper thanks for the reply. Im aware that you make your shoulders wider by working the delts. I already have wide shoulders. Im not asking how to make them wider. Im wanting to know how much a persons clavicles and scapula can stretch by doing certain exercises.
 
I think it might have something to do with working the cartilage the connects the clavicle and scapula. But like I said I dont know. Thats why Im asking. Anybody else heard or read of this before?
 
Perhaps what they meant is it streches the ligaments/tendons surrounding/attached to the bones you are talking about? Thus, giving you a wider appearance and creating sort of an illusion of mass. I dunno, just taking a shot in the dark here.
 
Morthik: Yeah thats kinda of what I was thinking. They didnt go into any detail on why this happens. So I was also coming to the conclusion that it must be the tissue connecting the bones that stretches, or does whatever it does. Im curious though to know what kind of affect AAS has on this.
 
if it just stretches the connective tissues (cartilage, ligaments, etc) then AAS wouldn't really have much effect on it.

i'd just be real real careful when TRYING to stretch your connective tissues and not try to do it too fast or you could really muck something up
 
ripper: Thats good advice. The thing is , that Ive been incorporating wide grip pull-ups into my workout regimine off and on since Ive been working out (just about 5 years now). And Ive added a great deal of width to my shoulders, and alot of size to my medial and overall dealts. And it may just be my imagination but it seems like even though Ive put some good size onto my dealts , I think my shoulders have become wider than they should be from just the amount of muscle Ive added to my deltoids. And Im sure that theres more to my shoulders getting wider than just the extra deltiod size, because over the past 5 years Ive gone from the age of 16 to 21 wich would mean that some of it is just my frame going through its natural growth development. But Im curious to know If I have stretched my clavicle and scapula or the tissues connecting them ,at all over the past 5 years by doing wide grip pull-ups ,thus by adding width to my shoulders without adding size to my deltoids. I dont know if that makes any sense to you guys. Its just something Ive been thinking about since I came across the article in musclemag that I mentioned.
 
You could always try a medieval torcher stretching device. This would probably stretch your bones to the desired width better than chins.
 
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soshesblowinme said:
thate: Is that what you did to get your cock up to a full 3 inches? Sorry man, I had to do it. I hope this doesnt start a flame war.

:beer:
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No need to start a flame war bro. By the way, your mom provides all the suction I need to get rock hard. She is comparable to cialis.
 
I have read an article about shoulder width through stretching. That was one of the exercises, the other was wide grip deadlifts i think. but when I say wide grip they meant as wide as you could stretch.
I no longer have the article but it was something like making the cartilage thicker like the grow taller books.

I am very interested in this if anyone has any info but honestly I think its shit just like growing taller through stretching is a crock.

Sartan IS God!! :freak:
 
No need to start a flame war bro. By the way, your mom provides all the suction I need to get rock hard. She is comparable to cialis.
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LOL. Really, moms that good ? I've heard cialis is the shit. Maybe I should start advertising her as the newly discovered cure for AAS related loss of sex drive.

bones can not be stretched!
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I think we've already established that. What were wondering is how much ,and from what exercises can the various tissues connecting these bones be altered.

I am very interested in this if anyone has any info but honestly I think its shit just like growing taller through stretching is a crock.
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Ive read up a little on gaining height through exercise. And have talked to people on message forums related to the topic. And have been told that its actually possible to gain a small amount of height through certain exercises ,as long as your not past a certain age. Mid 20's I think. I think it has more to do with improving posture, rather than actually lengthening the spine though. Im not sure. But I have talked to people who have tried the methods and were happy with the results they got.
 
Ive also read a couple training articles by Jay Culter ,and Lee Preist where they said you can stretch the size of the rib cage by doing pullovers giving you more of a barrel chest. Im not sure but,
this might be done by the tissues connecting the rib bones being worked during pullovers. So If thats possible then why cant the idea of widening the shoulders by working the clavicle and scapula connective tissues through certain exercises also work?
 
when your 90 they can....good point bounce, bones don't stretch. Either you have it or you don't.
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Have you guys read the above posts? We already know that the bones cannot be stretched. Were wondering if the connective tissues surrounding them can.
 
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Have you guys read the above posts? We already know that the bones cannot be stretched. Were wondering if the connective tissues surrounding them can.
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bro yes we have read the post. even if you can stretch the tissue, it would be such a small amount that you wouldn't notice anyway. the bottom line is, either you have long clavicles or you don't.
 
Pullovers actually work your pectoralis minor. its a small pec muscle that lies beneath the pectoralis major. just cause they are pros doesnt mean they know everyhting
 
One more thing,, posture, affected by the lats , abs, and eresctors can pull the shoulders back creating the look of wider shoulders.
Side delt excercises of course would widen the delts appearance by making them thicker.
I read in Muscle Mag that you can add about 1 and a half inches to shoulder width through work the delts. This Im sure depends on your genetics.

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Nutri-Wrestler: Im not saying that pros do know everything. I just stated that I read about the way pullovers affect your chest in an article written by pros.

I read in Muscle Mag that you can add about 1 and a half inches to shoulder width through work the delts. This Im sure depends on your genetics.
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I may be reading this wrong but are you saying that the article said you can add ONLY and inch and a half to your shoulder width by working the delts? I dont understand.
 
The way that I understood it was that an inch and a half was what you could expect but I think this would definately depend on genetics and if use of AAS is present.
 
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