shoulder pain...continues

[thebrute]

i had a shitty day at the gym today. my right shoulder was still agitated from thursdays' shirt work. i'll see how it is for thursday...if its better i'll do my ME day which will include 3-boards. if not, i'll pass on them to rest my shoulder. this truly sucks though. i couldn't go heavy on rows because of the "nagging" pain. right now, took some ibuprofen and rubbed some bengay on it. i'll ice it later tonite and until thursday and see what happens.

 

[Liftbig]

wouldnt be a bad idea to rest the shoulder for a week or two if its that bad. if it keeps your from training something isnt right. what is the problem, tendonitus?

 

[thebrute]

naw...its my right shoulder and feel it nag the most when i do any benching work, especially when bringing the bar down. its pretty annoying. tb

 

[IronLion]

how is your shoulder flexibility and sability? It could be out of proprtion with your pressing strength, that is the case with most big benchers who have nagging shoulder issues. There are about 25 different stabilizers in the shoulder girdle and when you are just training heavy single plane movement they get neglected. A good long term solution is to pay more attention to shoulder stability and flexibility and work to prevent the imbalance.

If you want I can give you a few different lifts to put in your program to address the issue....but my number one suggestion is to go make some hindu bats and start doing extra workouts at home with these, there is nothing quite like it.

 

[thebrute]

ironlion, tell me of these lifts. i remember doing a chest/shoulder stretch the other day and i felt that same pain again...almost as if my shoulder needed a good "pop". just describing the feelin here. tb

 

[IronLion]

Flexibility: Overhead: Squats, lunges, step ups, shrugs, or just plain walks

Stability and strengthening: Bent press, Snatch, one handed snatch, Zott Press, Turkish Get Up, Windmills

Hindu Bats: Crucifix: squats, lunges, 270 degree lunges, single leg squat

Hindu Bats: Reverse Flyes, shrugs, crucifix side bends, cleans, two handed anyhows, Zott Press, Turkish Get Up, Windmills

Pick a couple and add them to your me upper or me lower as core/accesory work....do them for a few weeks and see if you start to feel a lot stronger in the overhead plane and more safe in the bench plane.

I would suggest doing turkish get ups on me lower with zott presses

On ME upper do overhead shrugs with overhead squats....if you need the lifts explained I have them on file or you could do a google search or search at t-mag

 

[thebrute]

kool, send the file to [email protected]
i currently do windmills...just didn't do enough of them today cause i was doing work w/bands for my shoulder. what about the bands? oh and does adding glutamine to my supplement regimen help? tb

 

[IronLion]

glutamine has never helped me much...I take a bcaa sup anyway

I have had terrible elbow problems and the best things for that (same with your shoulder) are bextra or vioxx

i'll send that file to you...run a search at t-mag though i think they have a bunch of pics of some of those lifts

 

[thebrute]

what are bextra and vioxx? oh and what about the bands for this type of situation? tb

 

[thebrute]

oh and i could not find how to do the "zott presses"!! tb

 

[Screwball]

Brute,

IMHO, you are maxing (raw & shirted) too often and taking too many attempts over 90% of 1-rep max. Simplify your program and reduce the volume and I know you will see continued progression. It's all about quality; quantity is for bodybuilders and fitness. Good luck!

 

[thebrute]

oh, that was the idea. i was going to do rep work on DE day and ME day to give myself a break from max work. but i see your point though!!! tb