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Should we have Physician / Insurance Privacy Concerns?

Snarf

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I have seen this topic come up a number of times and wonder if anyone on the board has some professional or legal insight into this issue.

Basically, there is some concern that if you tell your doc you are using AAS, that it will end up in your chart and that this could cause problems later with your insurance company. I personally tell my doc everything and I knopw it goes in my chart. Here is why I don't think I have to worry:

1. The new HIPPA regulations would prevent my doc or any staff member from sharing this information with any entity unless I give my express permission. Most of you may know that your doc will require you to sign a form when you first seem him that allows him to release this information to my insurance company for reimbursement purposes. Most docs will not see you unless you sign this form or pay cash.

2. Insurance companies cannot share any medical information with your employer or other insurance carrier.

3. Insurance companies are VERY unlikely to pull a whole chart to see what drug history you might have. They reimburse off of ICD-9 codes which show diagnosis and treatment.

4. There is a slim chance that if you were undergoing a major procedure they would pull your chart, and this is the only circumstance where you might be concerned if they saw your AAS use.

However, I doubt they could deny coverage. They don't deny lung cancer treatment for smokers. Smoking is not illegal, but what if you were injured while speeding or robbing a bank. These activities are illegal, and they could argue if you hadn't been breaking the law that you would not have sustained the injury. I can't believe they would deny coverage for those reasons.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I think if everyone felt their information was safe and disclosing to your doc would not have any negative rammifications, then a lot more guys would get the blood work they need.

Peace.
 
My friend got caught a long time ago using AS by his parents. His parents took him to his Doc and got him "tested" to check for "damages to his body." Anyway he is unable to get insurance because of his use a few years ago..........


Basically I don't want ANYTHING that leaves a paper trail of my AS usage. I would rather pay for a blood test and tell them I am having low test problems or say something to get them to test it.


Insurance companies are extremely dirty. They might cover you, but when you have surgery they will check into it.
 
Your doc, if he is affiliated with an HMO and you participate in that HMO cannot deny the insurance company to any of your records. He signed that away when he signed up. Yes the insuracne comapnies can deny coverage for AS realted health concerns. They do not cover drunk drivers or bank robbers. The insurance company cannot share your records I do not believe. But illegal activity may void the HIPPA act.

I would ask your doc straight out if this the fact with him and the insurance companies.
 
Hmm???? Come to think of it, I think my doc wrote it down in my chart when I told him. Looks like I'll have to ask him to remove those notes.
 
THEEGAME2544 said:
Hmm???? Come to think of it, I think my doc wrote it down in my chart when I told him. Looks like I'll have to ask him to remove those notes.


I don't think he will bro.........
 
Nope, your doc will not remove something from your chart unless it was an error, and I doubt he will lie for your on this. Also, most docs will not agree to leave it out of your chart in the first place. Some might, and you can always ask.

KEHOE: Are you sure the won't cover drunk dirver's? If they won't then maybe they could deny coverage for AAS use. Although, you could always make a case that drug abuse is a disease and they must treat you just like they have to treat a heroine addict.

What if you are injured in a car accident where you were speeding? That is breaking the law. WOuld they deny coverage? Can't see that.
 
I'm with golfer on this one. I don't want my insurance to find out about my gear usage. However, if it was a matter of health that I must tell them, then so be it.
 
Snarf said:
I have seen this topic come up a number of times...


Basically, there is some concern that if you tell your doc you are using AAS, ..


However, I doubt they could deny coverage. They don't deny lung cancer treatment for smokers. ......


You bring up some good points, but there are a few important things that you are overlooking.

There is a big difference between being "covered" for a given problem when you HAVE insurance,

… and the problems you may run into trying to GET insurance.

If you HAVE insurance, especially under a large group plan, chances are that you will not be denied coverage because of prior AS use.

However if you do not have coverage and try to GET insurance, they CAN deny covering you. Or make your prices so ridiculous, that you cannot reasonably purchase it.

This is less of an issue for those people who work for some large employer, and have the benefits of being part of a large "Group" plan. The insurance companies value these arrangements so much that they will take some otherwise "undesirable" customers into the plan - hence those with AS use, prior conditions, etc., can get in.

But if you are self-employed, or work for or own a small business - good luck. They will either simply deny coverage, or else make the rates SO high that its unreasonable.

I wrote a post about these very issues a while back, it can be found here.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113330

Bump it if you want. Karma me if all of this helps.

Take care. Be informed guys.

Later for now,

Dave
 
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why would it be a matter of health insurance to tell them? For me this is a no brainer, my wife is a health care professional and deals with management issues concerning hippa and risk management. You are correct that sharing info with outsiders is strictly forbidden however if you have signed a waiver allowing access to your charts, all they(insurance companies) would have to do is request it from medical records and they would have it. I doubt that any insurance companies routinely ask for them but some do periodic random chart reviews to see if guidelines are being followed. A real issue would be if something came up that would require a chart review and the reviewer saw that illegal steroid use was documented. NEVER tell your doc that you use illegal drugs! This is really not a big issue since there are so many legal prohormones that you could always 'fess up taking that would alert your doc to any medical insights that he or she might need to provide you with timely care.

jb
 
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