This is not meant to be a rant or flame or anything of that nature, but an observation that got me thinking.
I just read a thread that stated that before AAS this person could only press 25 x 8, now with a pretty good cycle of AAS she can press 45 x 6.
Now, not to only pick on this person because I have seen a number of threads boasting about increases in strength with AAS and lifts being mentioned so I have to comment.
As I read about these weights begin lifted, I think of my some of my female clients. No juice, average american diets, few if any supplements, train 3 HOURS a WEEK, no lifting background, etc.
But, in many cases with only a year or so of training they are shoulder dumbbell pressing 40 - 50 x 8, flat dumbbell pressing 50 - 65 for 8, leg pressing 500 + for high reps (50), etc.
Even some of the "rails" or distance runners I get in with no lifting backgound, skinny as a toothpick and pathetically weak are shoulder pressing 30 x 8 DBs and flat pressing 35 x 8 DBs within 6 months. Again, nothing fancy, no supplements, just a relatively balanced diet and hard training.
So when I hear that someone is using some of the weights described while on AAS and these weights are no more or less than most of the women I train without AAS, supplements, special routines and hours in the gym, I have to think there is something wrong here and it's not that most of you have poor genetics.
Don't ask me what the problem is, but it really seems like there is one.
If you can't flat dumbbell press 50 x 8 or bench 95 x 8 or squat 225 x 8 to the box on a smith machine without AAS after a year of training, supplements, proper diet and hours in the gym, there is a problem and it shouldn't be solved with AAS.
Does anyone agree here?
W6
I just read a thread that stated that before AAS this person could only press 25 x 8, now with a pretty good cycle of AAS she can press 45 x 6.
Now, not to only pick on this person because I have seen a number of threads boasting about increases in strength with AAS and lifts being mentioned so I have to comment.
As I read about these weights begin lifted, I think of my some of my female clients. No juice, average american diets, few if any supplements, train 3 HOURS a WEEK, no lifting background, etc.
But, in many cases with only a year or so of training they are shoulder dumbbell pressing 40 - 50 x 8, flat dumbbell pressing 50 - 65 for 8, leg pressing 500 + for high reps (50), etc.
Even some of the "rails" or distance runners I get in with no lifting backgound, skinny as a toothpick and pathetically weak are shoulder pressing 30 x 8 DBs and flat pressing 35 x 8 DBs within 6 months. Again, nothing fancy, no supplements, just a relatively balanced diet and hard training.
So when I hear that someone is using some of the weights described while on AAS and these weights are no more or less than most of the women I train without AAS, supplements, special routines and hours in the gym, I have to think there is something wrong here and it's not that most of you have poor genetics.
Don't ask me what the problem is, but it really seems like there is one.
If you can't flat dumbbell press 50 x 8 or bench 95 x 8 or squat 225 x 8 to the box on a smith machine without AAS after a year of training, supplements, proper diet and hours in the gym, there is a problem and it shouldn't be solved with AAS.
Does anyone agree here?
W6