Should I use steroids or not? I am starting bodybuilding.

[mohdgame]

Hello everyone, I am 22 and 173cm tall and I weight around 56kg equals 123 lbs which means that I am a skinny guy.

However, I came here to ask you experienced users whether I should start light steroid cycle which consist of only Beastdrol (Something you guys were talking about) and liver care/protection supplement followed by PCT .

I have been lifting for a month and I have added 4 pounds of lean muscles by following a 4000 calories diet and preparing post and pre protien shakes. However, I am looking for an easier route than building my muscles naturally, I read that beastdrol can make me gain 17 pounds on one month without common side-effect specialy those nasty gyno's.

If I continue doing it naturally, I'll gain 30 pounds on one year, but if I do it with Beastdrol, I'll gain more like 20 pounds in two months, (One cycle of 4 weeks). And you know us humans, always looking for shortcuts!

Thanks everyone for helping me! Really REALLY Appreciated!

P.S: I am new to elitefitness but hopefully, I'll be an active member

 

[needtogetaas]

If you can do with out then do with out.

 

[SouthernLord]

No. There are no short cuts in this game. You may run a cycle now, but the gains would be minimal and whatever you did gain would be lost post cycle. You need to spend a few years building your base before turning to aas. Post up in the weight training and diet forums and get your routine/diet straightened out.

 

[SouthernLord]

Here you go......

"It is because over thirty years of direct observation has demonstrated to me that when trainees drink one gallon of milk added to their regular diet and train in a progressive linear fashion, they gain significant muscular bodyweight, and those that do not drink their milk, even in the presence of progressive linear training, fail to do this. They also fail to continue progressive linear training for the same length of time, because this is facilitated by the steady weight gain. I understand that you're asking me if I have controlled for other factors such as failure to do the program correctly, and the answer is yes, of course I have, because I am not a complete idiot. Those that will not do the program are not being considered when I make these remarks, because that would be too fucking obvious a hole in my analysis. The difference in the milk drinkers is that THEY GET BIGGER THAN THE ONES WHO WON'T DRINK THE FUCKING MILK. Please tell me that you understand this now."

- Mark Rippetoe

 

[SouthernLord]

Another one....not a flame...

On steroids:

"There are no shortcuts. The fact that a shortcut is important to you means that you are a pussy."


-Mark Rippetoe

 

[SouthernLord]

Buy this book and learn how to properly train......

Elite Fitness Systems

Also check out this website.....

Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version

Spend the time and read everything there. Possibly the best move you will ever make.

Do the basic 3x5 routine and follow it to a tee. Add a gallon of whole milk to your normal daily diet. Give yourself a year and you will add 30-40 pounds easily. not only that but your Squat, bench, row, DL, and press numbers will double.

 

[mohdgame]

Thanks SouthernLord for your generous reply. I follow Vince Delmonte workout program and nutrition program which is amazing and starting to work, but still steroids are tempting, gaining 15 pounds in one month is pretty awesome compared gaining that much in six months..

Vince's program is complete and it provides me with everything, but I was looking for something faster that's all. I mean if I can gain 30 pounds in 4 months, why not?

 

[Makavelli]

If you've only been training for one fuckin month do not even think of using anything more than food and some protein supps like whey! You need a solid base of training and diet to reap the most out of AAS use. Using it now is a waste and you can potentially hurt yourself by tearing a tendon.

 

[Ezekiel]

Bro, you don't need gear, nor do you want them! You'll end up hurting yourself, then you wont be able to lift at all and all your dreams are out the window!! I have seen this many times. Hell I think 75% of us have personally delt w/ this..

Lift for year or two steady and build a good base.. Heck at your age, if you get yout your diet and routine dialed in you'll grow like a mofo!!

 

[Acela]

Thanks SouthernLord for your generous reply. I follow Vince Delmonte workout program and nutrition program which is amazing and starting to work, but still steroids are tempting, gaining 15 pounds in one month is pretty awesome compared gaining that much in six months..

Vince's program is complete and it provides me with everything, but I was looking for something faster that's all. I mean if I can gain 30 pounds in 4 months, why not?

instant gratification. my guess is that 6 months from now you won't even be working out.

it's people like you that give gear a bad name. you are a fucking clown.

 

[quattr0]

I mean if I can gain 30 pounds in 4 months, why not?

Because you need time to strenghten your tendons and ligaments,or your in high risk to injure yourself bro.
Please listen to the advices you allready been given.

 

[RADAR]

instant gratification. my guess is that 6 months from now you won't even be working out.

it's people like you that give gear a bad name. you are a fucking clown.

Let's keep this civil and stop the name calling,That don't fly with me.

RADAR

 

[RADAR]

Because you need time to strenghten your tendons and ligaments,or your in high risk to injure yourself bro.
Please listen to the advices you allready been given.

Exactally! even the strength gains us old vets get from running gear has led us down the road to some serious injuries, you will definetely be asking for trouble taking the short cut, as they say in life"There are no short cuts"


RADAR

 

[slimjim1985]

there's no need for that...Everyone starts somewhere...hopefully the OP is considering our advice and wait.

 

[mohdgame]

Thank's everyone for your advice, that was really generous of you. Specialy Quattr who understood me and answered my question xD I guess it was a good decision to post in this forum before I actually start using them or I would've hurted myself . I guess I'll do it naturally first and then I might consider using AAS. Thanks people for saving me from myself I was pretty close into buying steroids. But now, I'll just take a deep breath and restart my natural program and do it for another year or two years.

Wieght lifting is fun so time wont be a problem. It is my sport. I'll be in the diet section in thos forum then

 

[Toptoon1]

instant gratification. my guess is that 6 months from now you won't even be working out.

it's people like you that give gear a bad name. you are a fucking clown.

Yo Mohd, congrats on your gains you made so far and im sure we can all relate to your way of thinking. Who dosent want the best results in the quickest time possible. But the idea you have is gonna get you messed up for real. There is alot of good advice here and alot of good people. Follow the advice given and in no time you will see your goals accomplished. As far as asshole posts like this one quoted just shrug it off. Good luck man and keep at your training. lots of usefull information here. Take the positive suggestions given.

 

[slimjim1985]

I smell platinum membership for mohdgame possibly? I like it when people listen and change their mind. good for you bro.

 

[RADAR]

You heard Right! The member Mohdgame has been granted a 7 day Free platimun membership,Use the search function ,learn & grow~!


RADAR

 

[thebigoz]

Another one....not a flame...

On steroids:

"There are no shortcuts. The fact that a shortcut is important to you means that you are a pussy."


-Mark Rippetoe

Respect.

 

[ConanX]

Eat my friend! Learn proper form and get on a good regiment. Lift heavy and hard. Eat all day long. I'm talking 7 meals or so consisting of protein sources such as chicken, beef, tuna, milk, fish, egg whites, and whey protein from shakes. Get complex carbs in from sources like oats, sweet potatos, whole wheat bread (good for sandwiches). Drink over a gallon of water everyday to stay hydrated.

You should put on some SERIOUS size. Save the steroids for when you gain the right experience. You need to get stronger naturally first. Also, you need to master your diet and training, this way you know how your body responds the best to food and weights. You should keep on growing. Down the road, if you are ready, the dark side is waiting for you. For now, enjoy the natural route and train your ass off. Steroids will do shit for you in the long run if you don't have the diet and training 100% anyway.

 

[rnch]

DOOD!

 

[Acela]

To the OP (Mohdgame)....
I just read what I wrote this morning.
Sorry, I never should have written that.
Boy was I on the fucking rag!
replies like that are inexcusable. You actually listened to what people had to say and appear to be taking their advice. Again, my apologies.

 

[mohdgame]

To the OP (Mohdgame)....
I just read what I wrote this morning.
Sorry, I never should have written that.
Boy was I on the fucking rag!
replies like that are inexcusable. You actually listened to what people had to say and appear to be taking their advice. Again, my apologies.

That is why I posted here in the first place . Just wanted to hear what experienced users had to say.

In the GYM where I train, people doesent know anything about bodybuilding. And I am serious. I saw a guy who trained his BACK for a whole year. He trained his back muscle group FOR A WHOLE YEAR. I asked him about that and he told me "So I dont get back injuries" XD

So I really needed an experienced opinion.

Yo Mohd, congrats on your gains you made so far and im sure we can all relate to your way of thinking. Who dosent want the best results in the quickest time possible. But the idea you have is gonna get you messed up for real. There is alot of good advice here and alot of good people. Follow the advice given and in no time you will see your goals accomplished. As far as asshole posts like this one quoted just shrug it off. Good luck man and keep at your training. lots of usefull information here. Take the positive suggestions given.

Thanks, you really understand me. Yeah, now I know that steroids might mess me if I dont do it naturally first.

The problem is, I asked a big guy in the GYM and he told me to use the juice. And he also told me natural bodybuilding is a "joke" and I should get on it as soon as possible. :S I never listen to people from the GYM again.

 

[advanced-stealth]

+1

if you can do with out then do with out.