Should I Do It?

[liftr486]

One thing is for sure, the Clomid didn't help (your e is fine) and may have supressed you for more time. If there is no logical reason why your levels are so low, such as emotional trauma, I'd use every supplement under the sun -- UNLEASHED, MyogenX, Dermacrine, POST-CYCLE. (Actually those are the only ones that would do anything). Maybe because of your youth, it'll make a difference and you can turn this around. But if it turns out you need HR T, then just go on. Hope it works out for you bro.

so ur saying that the only thing that will help me are the supplements that you recommended?

 

[njmuscleguy]

What did the doctor suggest after this last round of bloodwork?

So you've ruled out C lomid... H RT (test) is still an option... you might want to give those supplements a try for a month or two... what have you got to lose? I'm in a similar situation as you... I ran Sustain for 2 months and Myogenx for 1 month... not sure how much they've helped with my numbers (got bloodwork this morning), but I know I didn't feel as crappy as I have in the past. If nothing else, they can help you out of that rut of feeling lousy. If in a couple months you're still not feeling any better or more recovered, then just do the H RT. At least then you'll know you gave everything else a fair shake.

 

[Nelson Montana]

so ur saying that the only thing that will help me are the supplements that you recommended?

I'm saying they're the only supplements that are effective is actually raising testosterone. Weather they help or not is hard to say because they work within your own system and you may not be producing enough on your own to make a difference. In other words, even if your LH and free T double, it may still be too low. UNLEASHED and MyogenX are definetely worth a try for a couple of months. See how you feel. If improvement is jusy slight, talk to your doc about HR T. You may still want to take the supps along with the HR T. That's what a lot of older guys do.

 

[liftr486]

the last time i went on the clomid i got up to 673 and that was at 25mg/day for three months. im wondering if i used it for a longer period if that would help jumpstart my system? i rather not go with otc supplements that i am not really familiar with.

 

[liftr486]

I have to agree, though I'd make it even longer. It's a sin for someone so young to have to be on HRT.

I hate to do any "finger pointing" but this is one of those regretable reprecussions of doing cycles in your teens when your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - is still developing. A big price to pay.

I know it sucks but I'd suggest trying to get your levels back naturally. In all honesty, it might take up to 6 months. Maybe longer -- but at least you can live a normal life afterward. Of course, I'd recommend two of the supps listed below, as well as Anthony's MyogenX formula. Do not use tribulus.

I'm surprised the doc gave you clomid and androgel. Anyone who knows me here knows that I think Clomid is a horrible f*cking drug. And to put a young man on Androgel without the intention of staying on is flat out ignorance. That's like putting someone on insulin and then taking them off.

If you go on HRT now, expect to have lower ejaculate and very small testicles for the rest of your life. Sorry -- not trying to scare or disuade you. It's just the way it is.

i thought hcg would be able to take care of the decreased testicle size during hrt?

 

[joseeduardomauro]

try another doctor man, i had a friend which went to the doctor with low test in his 30s and his docotr put him on gh vit E and other stuff.....but i dont think your doctor would put u on gh at ur 20s anyway...

 

[st8grad]

he actually put me on androgel but before i filled the script we decided to try the clomid one more try. i think i can get him to come around to let me do an injectable test instead.

A lot cheaper.....

 

[liftr486]

i did get a script for test cyp and filled it, but am hesitant to start. i dont want to go this route if theres ne possibility that i could recover? last time i did about 3-4 months of clomid and im thinking maybe i should try a 6 month run with some aifm and see what happens then? i just dont know about the safety of clomid for such long periods.