the tren kicked in mentally the day i injected it, but truthfully i am expecting more than what i got out of my shoulder workout today, though i really was edgy man, this dude wanted to work in every excercise, one of those older guys with a real hard on for youngens, mid life crisis age, he is chewin his gum like a real cocky prick and every thing i would go to literally he'd follow and try and do more weight which he couldn't but thats not the point. had my girl not been with me he would have a tren hole in his head. so i had aggression but usually i kill it on shoulders and it wasn't like my bi workout. i wasn't that impressed, so hope tomorrow or friday is the magic day. no sides at all though sleepin like a baby so i may bump to 50mg ed.
bmcado, man i run things for as long as i feel it is beneficial in terms of health, gains, recovery...etc, you have to do what works for you. what works for me might be completely different. i'd say 6 weeks at the most. but hey if the testes are not shrunk, the libido is high, and my bp is near 120/80 i will not hesitate to pump out 8. doubtful though cause i just started loading up on my primo for april. i am running near a gram a week with naposim dbols, arnie style. little prop in there maybe eq, have not decided, of course proviron. its taken me forever to get past 16.5 inch arms. if i can get them to 17 off cycle with the tren i will be so fucking stoked. when you have a 6 6 arm span its a bitch to fill out certain parts of your body.
sorry to rant dan, i ran around the track and realized the best way to give you an idea would be to shoot hoops cause i do that every week. i didn't feel winded at all just go real fucking hot and sweaty, noticably so. hope that helps you, the track didn't wind me but i don't run like i said so i dont' know what would wind me on there.
i'll be out of the midwest in a few years and back to arizona or cali. i just got in with a huge real estate company in the midwest so i am not going anywhere for a while.