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sas29

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I'm 30 and going to start self prescribed trt. 200mg test a week, + 0.5mg Arimidex twice a week and hcg at 500iu every monday and wednesday. Does this sound ok?
 
Too much test and too much HCG
 
Why would want to self-medicate and potentially destroy your endo test production. Go get checked out first before you undertake this serious matter. Don't forget, once your blow out your HPTA you're going to have to shoot this shit for the rest of you life. That could be another 30-40 years or more if you end up taking good care of yourself.
 
Why would want to self-medicate and potentially destroy your endo test production. Go get checked out first before you undertake this serious matter. Don't forget, once your blow out your HPTA you're going to have to shoot this shit for the rest of you life. That could be another 30-40 years or more if you end up taking good care of yourself.

I've already shut myself down after 9 months of test. Doctors aren't helping.
 
I jumped on the self trt bandwagon too a year ago. And that i see now, has been one of my life's best decisions thus far. I'm 38 and a half. I don't run hcg. Just said fck it. It has been 8 months now without hcg and although shrinkage is slightly more than what it would otherwise be when on a regular cycle and not on blasts and cruises, i dont have any problems at all.

I'm writing all this down for the records. Personal experience. No ejaculation problems either. No erection problems at all.

Only, my trt dosages are a little lower. I run 150mgs ew. Currently running 1050mgs and on a blast. Another piont worth mentioning is...when i run 150mgs TE ew, it actually amounts to a 103.5 mgs of ACTUAL TEST ew into your system. And that i guess is pretty reasonable decent dosage for someone on trt...

What say, DJ??
 
I jumped on the self trt bandwagon too a year ago. And that i see now, has been one of my life's best decisions thus far. I'm 38 and a half. I don't run hcg. Just said fck it. It has been 8 months now without hcg and although shrinkage is slightly more than what it would otherwise be when on a regular cycle and not on blasts and cruises, i dont have any problems at all.

I'm writing all this down for the records. Personal experience. No ejaculation problems either. No erection problems at all.

Only, my trt dosages are a little lower. I run 150mgs ew. Currently running 1050mgs and on a blast. Another piont worth mentioning is...when i run 150mgs TE ew, it actually amounts to a 103.5 mgs of ACTUAL TEST ew into your system. And that i guess is pretty reasonable decent dosage for someone on trt...

What say, DJ??

Did your doc prescribe it? What were yor T levels before trt?
 
like the conflicting opinions. Your fairly young to be starting trt.
Like said above 30-40 more years of that is what you cud be looking at if you fuck the hpta.
Im suprised if your 30 with low T levels that you cant get prescribed it. Where do you live?

100-150 is a good dose per week. With Hcg at a much more restrained dose than you intend on.

I wouldnt use adex either - or at that dose. Topical fromestane will spare your insides and is legal
 
Did your doc prescribe it? What were yor T levels before trt?

No doctor did not prescribe it as i mentioned it was a self diagnosis lol.

I didn't bother to check my T levels before trt to be very frank as i cared a fcuk. I wanted to do it and figured that low / medium or regular amounts of T wouldn't matter in the least to me, because i was quite frankly, sick of doing the ON & OFF thing and playing around with those weird hormonal fluctuations and mood swings.

Bottomline??
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I'm now ALWAYS horny :evil:

I'm pumped most times :evil:

The gym boys love to see me workout, especially them Natties :evil:

I have the best physique among my friends, relatives and colleagues :evil:

The wife loves to show me OFF to her friends ( for a change ) :evil:

I'm banging a couple of 20 somethings on the side :evil:

And both literally BEG to be left alone for atleast a couple of days once i'm done :evil:

Well, these are the primary ones lolol :evil:
 
No doctor did not prescribe it as i mentioned it was a self diagnosis lol.

I didn't bother to check my T levels before trt to be very frank as i cared a fcuk. I wanted to do it and figured that low / medium or regular amounts of T wouldn't matter in the least to me, because i was quite frankly, sick of doing the ON & OFF thing and playing around with those weird hormonal fluctuations and mood swings.

Bottomline??
-------------

I'm now ALWAYS horny :evil:

I'm pumped most times :evil:

The gym boys love to see me workout, especially them Natties :evil:

I have the best physique among my friends, relatives and colleagues :evil:

The wife loves to show me OFF to her friends ( for a change ) :evil:

I'm banging a couple of 20 somethings on the side :evil:

And both literally BEG to be left alone for atleast a couple of days once i'm done :evil:

Well, these are the primary ones lolol :evil:

Wow...thats all I can say to that. Good luck m8.
 
I'm 30 and going to start self prescribed trt. 200mg test a week, + 0.5mg Arimidex twice a week and hcg at 500iu every monday and wednesday. Does this sound ok?

any self prescribed trt is a bad idea. if you are going to do it then here are some guidelines to help make it as good as you can.

if you know where your levels where naturally before you had the issue then your better off. shoot for that. asuming you dont i will go on to the next step.

start low. 50mg ew of test. do it for a month or 2 before determining weather you need more or not. if you feel ok on 50mg and show no signs of low test then your good there. the adex and hcg should be figured out the same way start low and determine whats the liest you can do to feel right.

again this is still a bad idea and you should be going to a doctor. but dont just start pumping 200mg ew and think its not going to come back and bite you in the ass bacause it very well could.

after a few months of what you find to be your good doses of all of the meds go get a full hormone pannel and see where you stand.
 
if you are going to self administer trt it is best to start low (really low) then gradually add 25mg at a time to see where you get to feelng ok (showing no signs of low test), to prevent from over doing it. the whole idea behing safe effective trt is putting your body where it would naturally be without the problem. if your going to go by feel (not smart) then this is a good way to go vs jumping on 200mg ew. on a side note i know a man who is in his early 40's who is on trt and uses less than 100mg ew and he needs no adex at all. his trt is doctor prescribed.
 
you would need NONE

or do as Nelson does an sprinkle it in here and there to just make sure T to E levels are optimized
 
PRIVATE MED LABS google them..you can do complete blood work for 119.00...if your gonna trt atleast check up on yourself every now and then...i been on for 3 years now and my results i got other day were perfect..

and nothing wqrong with poking for next 30-40 years...think of being fit and in shape at 70 when the rest are in wheel chairs
 
PRIVATE MED LABS google them..you can do complete blood work for 119.00...if your gonna trt atleast check up on yourself every now and then...i been on for 3 years now and my results i got other day were perfect..

and nothing wqrong with poking for next 30-40 years...think of being fit and in shape at 70 when the rest are in wheel chairs

damn i was about to bust your stones about your size loss but then i read your sig. that sucks man im glad to hear your back in the gym.
 
pulled this from another forum... slightly off topic, BUT if you are "shut down" it seems as though there are options available


I've been seeing alot of people worried about infertility. Dug up a couple articles on pubmed for you guys. Seems like if you play the game safe, you should have no worries!

The reversibility of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia.
Turek PJ, Williams RH, Gilbaugh JH 3rd, Lipshultz LI.

Scott Department of Urology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA.
Abstract
Anabolic steroid associated male infertility is a little known but potentially treatable form of drug related infertility. We report on a bodybuilder with a 5-year history of steroid use who was azoospermic. He underwent successful gonadotropin replacement and conception was achieved 3 months after therapy was initiated. Important diagnostic and therapeutic considerations in steroid-induced infertility are discussed.


Successful treatment of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia with human chorionic gonadotropin and human menopausal gonadotropin.
Menon DK.

Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University Malaya Medical Centre, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. [email protected]
Comment in:

Fertil Steril. 2004 Jan;81(1):226.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To document for the first time the successful treatment using human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) and human menopausal gonadotropins (hMG) of anabolic steroid-induced azoospermia that was persistent despite 1 year of cessation from steroid use. DESIGN: Clinical case report. SETTINGS: Tertiary referral center for infertility. PATIENT(S): A married couple with primary subfertility secondary to azoospermia and male hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. The husband was a bodybuilder who admitted to have used the anabolic steroids testosterone cypionate, methandrostenolone, oxandrolone, testosterone propionate, oxymetholone, nandrolone decanoate, and methenolone enanthate. INTERVENTION(S): Twice-weekly injections of 10,000 IU of hCG (Profasi; Serono) and daily injections of 75 IU of hMG (Humegon; Organon) for 3 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Semen analyses, pregnancy. RESULT(S): Semen analyses returned to normal after 3 months of treatment. The couple conceived spontaneously 7 months later. CONCLUSION(S): Steroid-induced azoospermia that is persistent after cessation of steroid use can be treated successfully with hCG and hMG.
 
I jumped on the self trt bandwagon too a year ago. And that i see now, has been one of my life's best decisions thus far. I'm 38 and a half. I don't run hcg. Just said fck it. It has been 8 months now without hcg and although shrinkage is slightly more than what it would otherwise be when on a regular cycle and not on blasts and cruises, i dont have any problems at all.

I'm writing all this down for the records. Personal experience. No ejaculation problems either. No erection problems at all.

Only, my trt dosages are a little lower. I run 150mgs ew. Currently running 1050mgs and on a blast. Another piont worth mentioning is...when i run 150mgs TE ew, it actually amounts to a 103.5 mgs of ACTUAL TEST ew into your system. And that i guess is pretty reasonable decent dosage for someone on trt...

What say, DJ??


1050mgs on a blast? Thats a nuclear blast. How long do you run the TRT for then the atomic blast and then back to TRT?
 
damn i was about to bust your stones about your size loss but then i read your sig. that sucks man im glad to hear your back in the gym.
YA IM A TINY FUCKER NOW MAN.....havnt hit gym more then 5 times maybe in 6 months...i look rediculous...pot belly and man tits kicking..lost 1.5 in off arms...legs hahaha there sticks..back help strength but lost mad size...gonna dedlift next week for first time lol..scared man..

chest tho is worst...got some nerve damage from the injury my arm trmebles terribly under weight..just gonna stick to 225 bench and work my way up in reps...im honestly scared to even consider trying anything then low weight..just blast out craazy reps and say fuck it

this is my pre cycle pic about 213 or so..i wont post another till im 225-230 again
 
YA IM A TINY FUCKER NOW MAN.....havnt hit gym more then 5 times maybe in 6 months...i look rediculous...pot belly and man tits kicking..lost 1.5 in off arms...legs hahaha there sticks..back help strength but lost mad size...gonna dedlift next week for first time lol..scared man..

chest tho is worst...got some nerve damage from the injury my arm trmebles terribly under weight..just gonna stick to 225 bench and work my way up in reps...im honestly scared to even consider trying anything then low weight..just blast out craazy reps and say fuck it

this is my pre cycle pic about 213 or so..i wont post another till im 225-230 again

that sounds like a good plan to me. i wouldnt be going heavy yet. you will probably be back where you left off in a month man.
 
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