Seated Press

[skullcrushin22]

When I do seated barbell presses I dont sit completely straight up I slide my butt forward a little for leverage. I bring the bar down in front not behind. Any problems with leaning forward a little?

Thanks guys

 

[AEKDB]

The problem is not with leaning but with sitting. I will never figure out why most people sit when performing military presses. I believe one should never sit when you can perform the same lift standing. The benefit to standing is once you can no longer perform strict reps, you can use leg drive for forced reps.

 

[fortunatesun]

I used to cheat my angle when I did them seated also. Even so, I never felt entirely comfortable. Now that I do them standing I don't have to worry about any of that.

 

[needtogetaas]

The problem is not with leaning but with sitting. I will never figure out why most people sit when performing military presses. I believe one should never sit when you can perform the same lift standing. The benefit to standing is once you can no longer perform strict reps, you can use leg drive for forced reps.

I like the standing press myself as well.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

I do them standing sometimes but if I do them sitting I put 10lb weight plates on the floor and put my feet against them. It keeps me sitting in the seat better but I also only perform strict reps when im seated with a spotter always.

 

[skullcrushin22]

I agree with you all I would rather do them standing. But Im not in the same gym I use to be. The squat rack is in the room with a low ceiling. The other room has nothing for me to put the bar on. I use to just press the weight up and then do reps but that was getting harder as I increased in weight. Anyways so I switched to seated for awhile because I havent done it in years.

 

[OMEGA]

I dont do any deltoid exercise unless its on a smith machine or with cables / and or light db's

The deltoid muscle themselves are tiny, and if you goign for development it makes no sense to do heavy presses.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I dont do any deltoid exercise unless its on a smith machine or with cables / and or light db's

The deltoid muscle themselves are tiny, and if you goign for development it makes no sense to do heavy presses.

im somewhere in between. for big DELTS it doesnt matter if your sitting or standing...

if your standing you hit more other muscles like core and legs, along with the delts, but seated your still hitting your delts...

but i agree with omega and AAP's theories on just pumping fuckloads of blood and highrep brutality into my shoulders, because i used to press heavy and never do this sort of stuff, and my delts lagged.

so i think any heavy press every now and then (like every other week at least), and a fuckload of laterals.

im personally switching between starting with either standing pushpress, or seated military, and then doing omega's dropset with laterals, and then the alternate week doing AAP's preexhaust workout with pressing at the end. my shoulders are coming alogn better than ever

 

[OMEGA]

Plus Sublime the deltoids get a alot of indirect work via Back workouts and Chest workouts ( pressess and rows)

just follow instinct and ignore the Magazine routines

 

[fortunatesun]

The deltoid muscle themselves are tiny, and if you goign for development it makes no sense to do heavy presses.

I can agree strictly in terms of actual isolation of shoulder development. You noted in your other post, though, the shoulders pitch in on chest and back. This requires the use of stabilizers,etc. which are best developed through at least some heavier pressing.

It's a 2 way street, stronger shoulders ---> better back and chest ---> larger shoulders.

In my own experience, my shoulders never completely filled out untill I pressed regularly. Unsurprisingly, I also believe that the concept behind yours and AAP"s programs is best utilized when there's a strong base to work from. If for some reason you're adverse to heavier pressing, or just need a change of pace, then Bradford presses can get the job done.

 

[OMEGA]

interesting ideas and you may indeed be very right on the point of a base already developed

 

[Sub-Zero]

Plus Sublime the deltoids get a alot of indirect work via Back workouts and Chest workouts ( pressess and rows)

just follow instinct and ignore the Magazine routines

oh for sure...iv been doing 50 pullups two times a week for my back to get it awsome, and my delts are sore all the time. sometimes i back off a little on shoulder day depending on ho wsore my shoulders are.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

I change it up. I do moderate heavy weight db presses and then ill go to smith machine some weeks. Other weeks ill use cables and lighter weight. I agree you should have a good base to work off of. If you waant just big shoulders then some heavy pressing to a certain degree I believe is needed. Change is goooooood

 

[thebadguy54]

The problem is not with leaning but with sitting. I will never figure out why most people sit when performing military presses. I believe one should never sit when you can perform the same lift standing. The benefit to standing is once you can no longer perform strict reps, you can use leg drive for forced reps.

I haven't done a seated shoulder press in almost two years. IMO is is just one of many useless non-functional movments guys waste their time on. Just my opinion, sorry seated press lovers (cause I know you're out there).

 

[artificialaspirations]

standing is harder because it removes the pecs a bit more than the seated. All you have to do is lean back a couple inches and your doing a steep incline bench press.

How many sets and reps on laterals? I have cut back on upright rows and over head presses until my rotator can stay put.

I tried going heavy the last few weeks and actually made them sore, but if sets or 15-20 are the ticket I can do that too.

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

Yeh you could lean back but what if you have plates that are holding your feet closer to your body and also keeps you from leaning back cuz your feet arent sliding out further away from you. When I first did this I had to take like 10lbs + off my lifts until I got used to it and built up more strength so I figured it did something.