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well makes sense...I´ll follow your advice and no more sarms preworkout in pct!
truckdaddy
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sarms at a low dose is great during PCT, do a search and you will see.
Most people will agree that Ross has some interesting views, but he is also be been banned from every board including EF for being completely full of shit. Please keep that in mind.
He does offer some interesting feedback.
Most people will agree that Ross has some interesting views, but he is also be been banned from every board including EF for being completely full of shit. Please keep that in mind.
He does offer some interesting feedback.
DJLegacy2k1
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The only times Ive talked with Ross on boards were completely ummm "opposing views", lets say.
But Truck the fundamental use of PCT is to COMPLETELY RESTORE all shutdown and using any product that has any risk of not RESTORING all functionality back to 100% should be avoided to INSURE full restoration to that point, correct?
Every medical/clinical study has PROVEN shutdown and the risks of it, even stating that even 50mg for a 200lb person is HIGH. We have that vs the "feelings" of people using SARMS, normally along with combinations of several other drugs that are normally used in PCT.
The defense of how people "feel" or if SOME of their shutdown is reduced if used with other PCT drugs does NOT prove that they will be 100% restored or if SARMS is still causing some shutdown or slowdown of the process.
Thus the only FACTS in studies that we have state potential SHUTDOWN and thus anyone running PCT would normally want to stay away form the product due to the RISK being there. The idea that everyone is "defensive" of its use in PCT still doesnt make sense to me when looking at the medical facts.
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truckdaddy
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At lower doses there is no shutdown, all the blodwork being done backs it up.
clomid at high doses can shut you down.....and its used in most PCT
clomid at high doses can shut you down.....and its used in most PCT
DJLegacy2k1
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Exactly and many members of this board and many others think that use of Clomid and Nolva and such products is very risky to peoples health and are now looking for more natural and healthy ways to recover.
I havent seen a single blood test with someone using SARMS ALONE with no other chemicals at all, or comparison tests showing tims to recover with standard PCT against PCT using SARMS to prove whether or not the person recovered 100% in the same amount of time and that SARMS did not slow the process.
Just stating no one should be making DEFINITE assumptions about the use of SARMS when the only medical information we have on it states the OPPOSITE of what the "users" are stating.
Truck, please keep in mind I AM CURRENTLY USING SARMS for my own tests so I am not against the substance, I am just looking at all the facts that we have so far.
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I've never been banned from a board for expressing my scientific perspective, but rather, HOW I have expressed these views in the past.
When I started frequenting the various internet bodybuilding forums over 10 years ago, many of my theories were vehemently opposed, and now in many cases, they are accepted as the standard(low dosage testosterone, the effects of steroidal esterfication, combining oral steroids for optimal anabolism, PRE-PCT, etc.). Bodybuilders must EVOLVE with the discovery of new information. After all, it was Dan Duchaine who first introduced Clomid and Nolvadex to the bodybuilding community over 15 years ago, and our knowledge of PCT has improved DRASTICALLY since then. The way that we utilize anabolic steroids improves as our knowledge does.
I am here to offer a perspective. I support all of my theories with the scientific evidence that is available, so it is your choice to ultimately formulate your own decisions. I'm happy to be here.
You got anything to back that statement up...?
Clomid at high doses will reduce sperm count, but I'm yet to read anything on endogenous testosterone, LH and FSH levels.
I've never been banned from a board for expressing my scientific perspective, but rather, HOW I have expressed these views in the past.
When I started frequenting the various internet bodybuilding forums over 10 years ago, many of my theories were vehemently opposed, and now in many cases, they are accepted as the standard(low dosage testosterone, the effects of steroidal esterfication, combining oral steroids for optimal anabolism, PRE-PCT, etc.). Bodybuilders must EVOLVE with the discovery of new information. After all, it was Dan Duchaine who first introduced Clomid and Nolvadex to the bodybuilding community over 15 years ago, and our knowledge of PCT has improved DRASTICALLY since then. The way that we utilize anabolic steroids improves as our knowledge does.
I am here to offer a perspective. I support all of my theories with the scientific evidence that is available, so it is your choice to ultimately formulate your own decisions. I'm happy to be here.
Oh come off it Ross.
"low dosage testosterone" - Otehr's use low doses too. Such as myself and always have done.
"the effects of steroidal esterfication" - You stole that from Anthony Roberts (Conners).
"cOmbining orals" - You wernt the first to add two orals together.
Do you honestly think anything you have ever done is ground breaking? Because its not, by ANYONE's stretch of imagination.
DJLegacy2k1
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Can we NOT have my informational thread get lock due to ROSS bashing...There are a million other threads for that! lol
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