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DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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Anyone ever use a SARM to bridge out of PCT? Is Ostarine suppressive? I know S4 is
SARM in PCT??
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i just finished my own PCT a few weeks ago. decided i would try ostarine @ 20mg/day for six weeks to test the compound and it's effects. i am also still taking exemestane @ 25mg/day. usually after a cycle and the pct, my motivation seems to plummet. i know it is mental, but when i'm on cycle i feel fantastic and can think clearly. it get's harder to stay motivated. thought that ostarine might be an interesting compound to try and stay elevated and focused. after two weeks i can assure you that it does have an effect on the body, but i don't feel the same as on gear. strength is about the same, energy levels are fine, but most interesting is the lack of joint pain. since the first full week, pain in my hands has been reduced significantly (i work as a car mechanic). i also went skateboarding about a week ago and skinned my knee during the session. the wound seemed (not confirmed) to heal much faster than in previous injuries.
is this stuff good for building muscle and getting lean? i don't think so in my experience. but i do think it may be worth looking into for those with aching joints from heavy lifts.
is this stuff good for building muscle and getting lean? i don't think so in my experience. but i do think it may be worth looking into for those with aching joints from heavy lifts.
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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So you think in fact that it IS effective in PCT??
It is very effective in PCT - A lot of guys refuse to PCT without it. Its debateable whether OSTA is suppressive or not, but it is certainly not suppressive under 25 mgs, and any more than that it is very mildly suppressive at most.
Zeroshens - you have not been running OSTA for long enough to feel its anabolic effects. Week 3 is generally the magic week for it to really kick in. However, you are correct that it does immediately have healing effects.
Anyway, keep your PCT at 15 mgs a day of OSTA and you'll love it and wont have to worry about suppression.
I'd also reccommend you get your SARMS from Sarmssearch - highest quality and purity available.
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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Thanks my man, so sarmsearch is good, what about uniquechemicals?
X2 for Sarmssearch. I've used their Ostarine in every one of my PCTs to help hold gains while recovering and they have all went very well. I've even made gains in PCT on their Ostarine at 25mg per day
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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That's awesome. So how did you feel about the alleged 'suppression' it causes.... Anything noticeable??
yes it will supress you. you counter it with nolva and clomid. hcgnerate, daa, etc etc. stay on a ai at a low dose to regulate estrogen, not crush it. feel it out what a good dose is for you. same for the osta. 15-25mg, somewhere around there. you ll be fine, a sarm and even peptides are the new kids on the block. esp in pct.
checkout GW too. ss has it now. ive been waitin forever lol
checkout GW too. ss has it now. ive been waitin forever lol
The suppressin from Ostarine in my experience, and from what I've read is so minimal that it is not even a concern unless ran for extended lengths of time and when ran in PCT with all the proper recovery methods it is not an issue
Another X2 for Sarmsearchs GW - running it right now and loving it so far
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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SARM search it is.
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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Would toremifene, Aromasin, DAA, and osta at 12.5 be an epic pct stack??
What was your cycle? I never saw it mentioned
I prefer Clomid, though I have no experience with Torem.
I would run 25mg Ostarine in PCT, but 12.5 gives some decent gains too
A perfect PCT in my experience is...
Clomid
Unleashed
Post cycle
Formastanozol
DAA
Ostarine
Gods call there bro! You picked the best!
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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I'm planning on running a classic 12 week TEst E cycle with a 4 week DBOL kicker and 4 week Halotestin finisher. As for PCT I am planning on running some HCG for the first time in the last 4 weeks of my cycle which I am not sure how I am going to run yet. I also plan on using Torem and Aromasin. Still planning this PCT as we speak. IMHO pCT is THE MOST IMPORTANT part of any cycle....
So few people reaslize that, I'm glad your head isnt in your ass
I would run your OSTA at 15 mgsED. If you're set on running at 12.5 thatlly work too, but 15 seems to be pretty sweet for me.
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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So few people reaslize that, I'm glad your head isnt in your ass
I would run your OSTA at 15 mgsED. If you're set on running at 12.5 thatlly work too, but 15 seems to be pretty sweet for me.
Thanks for the reply man, how were your gains at 15mg Ed?
Last time I didnt run it for a PCT, I ran it as a stand alone and had very good results. I bulked up quite a bit and stayed very lean on an anabolic diet. Didnt log it unfortunately so I can't recall specifics, but it went very well for me. I also didnt have to deal with any suppression which was nice, some people argue that 25 mgs will suppress (I'm not convinced of that).
The effects are more profound at 25 mgs, and at 12.5 you would probably see some good shit too. 15 mgs is just sweet for me
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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That sounds good, thanks for sharing, so you think 12.5 mg ED won't be enough to suppress significantly? And will also that dosage of 12.5 g a day will help with just general anabolism, and recomp??
Sorry for so many questions, I just want to pick the experience users minds about this stuff.
Thanks,
Regards
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
Start at 12.5mg and you will be fine, even 25mg would be beautiful, which is what I will be doing.
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This is my PCT for my upcoming cycle...
17-22 [URL="http://www.elitefitnessnutrition.com/UNLEASHED.-formulated-to-increase-free-Testosterone/M/B000YZ6X20.htm"]Unleashed[/URL] (6 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] split dose 2 cap morn/noon/even) first week, then 3 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] (split dose)
17-22 Post [URL="http://www.elitefitness.com/anabolic-steroid-cycles/"]cycle[/URL] (6 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] split dose 2 cap morn/even) first week, then 3 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] (split dose)
17-22 Powerchews D-test (4 chews/3 grams ED)
19-22 Clomid (50/50/25/25mg...will feel this out since running 4 compounds)
17-24 Forma Stanzol (10 pumps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] first 6 weeks, 6 pumps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] last 2 weeks)
17-22 MK-2866 Osta [URL="http://sarmssearch.com/"]SARMS[/URL] (25mg [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL]...may start out at 12.5mg)
17-22 Anabeta (4 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], 2 pre/post workout, non-training days spread throughout day)
17-22 Creatine Nitrate (8 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], 4 pre/post workout)
17-22 Need2Slin (4 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], spread with carb meals throughout the day)
17-22 Gear (10-12 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], pre/post workout & bedtime)
I will recover beautifully with this!
17-22 [URL="http://www.elitefitnessnutrition.com/UNLEASHED.-formulated-to-increase-free-Testosterone/M/B000YZ6X20.htm"]Unleashed[/URL] (6 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] split dose 2 cap morn/noon/even) first week, then 3 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] (split dose)
17-22 Post [URL="http://www.elitefitness.com/anabolic-steroid-cycles/"]cycle[/URL] (6 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] split dose 2 cap morn/even) first week, then 3 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] (split dose)
17-22 Powerchews D-test (4 chews/3 grams ED)
19-22 Clomid (50/50/25/25mg...will feel this out since running 4 compounds)
17-24 Forma Stanzol (10 pumps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] first 6 weeks, 6 pumps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL] last 2 weeks)
17-22 MK-2866 Osta [URL="http://sarmssearch.com/"]SARMS[/URL] (25mg [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL]...may start out at 12.5mg)
17-22 Anabeta (4 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], 2 pre/post workout, non-training days spread throughout day)
17-22 Creatine Nitrate (8 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], 4 pre/post workout)
17-22 Need2Slin (4 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], spread with carb meals throughout the day)
17-22 Gear (10-12 caps [URL="http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/phytoserms"]ED[/URL], pre/post workout & bedtime)
I will recover beautifully with this!
No, you will not be suppressed at all at 12.5 or 15 mgs. The debate raging right now is whether or not it is suppressive at above 25 mgs.
And yes, even at 5 mgs OSTA shows anabolic and recomp effects, so either 12.5 or 15 will work wonderfully for that - its just preference really.
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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Awesome, thanks man. And yea that does make sense that you say that. The original clinical trial on osta was at only 3G everyday!!! 12.5 sounds like a safe but good dosage for me.
Thanks again,
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
Awesome, thanks man. And yea that does make sense that you say that. The original clinical trial on osta was at only 3G everyday!!! 12.5 sounds like a safe but good dosage for me.
Thanks again,
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
Yep, you will be loving life after about 3 weeks on 12.5 mgs! Way to keep it safe.
Make sure you give it 4 weeks or so - you can start to feel repair effects and such right away but it takes about 3 weeks for the full effect.
12-15mg is a great dose for PCT, though I have (and currently) use it at 25mg in PCT. From my experience it hasn't hindered recovery that I can tell, but I font have bloodwork to back that up either. For anyone on the fence, you can't go wrong dosing 12-15mg in PCT. Its an effective dose that will not effect the HPTA
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
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That's music to my ears man
it's good to hear that it doesnt effect hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis , from someone with a lot of experience with OSTA. There are a lot of guys out there that are new to this game that have similiar questions I do. It's good to have those questions cleared up from some of the more experienced guys like you and Dylan. Thanks again broRegards,
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
That's music to my ears man
Regards,
DieYoungDieStrongDianabol
I agree, some great info in this thread!
Hey guys. I have heard nothing but good things about sarms I m currently running a katanadrol/hella cycle and loving it and I def want to keep my gains
My pct is
Clomid 25/25/25/25/
Forged pct
Forma stanzol
Unleashed
Probably going to add lean extreme
I really want to hold my gains and wanted everyone's opinion on adding osta to this nd what kind of mini pct to use after the osta if it's applicable to run during pct
I appreciate th help
My pct is
Clomid 25/25/25/25/
Forged pct
Forma stanzol
Unleashed
Probably going to add lean extreme
I really want to hold my gains and wanted everyone's opinion on adding osta to this nd what kind of mini pct to use after the osta if it's applicable to run during pct
I appreciate th help
Thats already a solid PCT and adding OSTA is going to make it even better. If you dont want to run a mini PCT, I would just run some OSTA at 15 mgs ED (or 12.5 mgs like we've been discussing). It DEFINITELY will not suppress you and you wont have to run anything after it.
25 mgs ED is a great dose, but its debateable whether it suppresses or not...........I tend to think not, and I think Rick would agree with me. But others would argue that it does. To be very safe, you could run 25 mg ED in PCT and just continue your unleashed for 2 weeks after the OSTA and youll be good to go. I should note that regardless of opinion, suppression from OSTA (if it even exists) is extremely mild, so its your call.
Some people will just run it the 4 weeks of PCT, but I like to run it longer than that up to 6-8 weeks
I will be starting out at 12.5mg and working up to 25mg everyday through Bridge. I have used Uniques MK-2866 and S-4 with great results in a SARMs cycle earlier this year, so will stick with them and add GW in the mix as well...looking forward to that as well as my cycle!!!
Just a curious question cause I didn't find nyhing searching bough the boards could I start osta the last 2 weeks of my cycle run it through he 4 week pct until two weeks after for a8 week run I was planning 15 mg Ed and I'll have unleashed or a mini pct at the end of the 8 weeks. I was wondering if running it the last 2 weeks of the cycle it would work with the hella/katana or just wait for pct.
You are going to want to wait to run the Ostarine starting in PCT. there is no need to run it the last couple weeks of the cycle since it won't give any added benefit. The Ostarine and the hella/katana would be competing for the same androgen receptors. Just start it the day PCT starts and then you can continue to run it 2-4 weeks after PCT if you choose also
awesome thanks rick i appreciate it, i work from home and i not out on the road today and ive been waiting for my ss package to arrive, just got my unleashed double pack in from need2 and my lean extreme, waiting for that sarmssearch package to arrive,
since pct consists of both liquid clomi and osta, would it be easier to dose the clomi at night and the osta in the morning or vice versa or at the same time
not to mention i have read that both have horrendous tastes and my rats would like to know if there are any suggestions on mixing these to take them down easier or if my rats should just suck it up and down the hatch
since pct consists of both liquid clomi and osta, would it be easier to dose the clomi at night and the osta in the morning or vice versa or at the same time
not to mention i have read that both have horrendous tastes and my rats would like to know if there are any suggestions on mixing these to take them down easier or if my rats should just suck it up and down the hatch
You can dose OSTA at any time during the day, just try to make sure that its a time of day when you can onsistently dose every day.
However you choose to dose it is fine. Just always do around the same time.
