Safest "chill-out" drug

[pgerardone]

Re: Re: I say, have a few drinks!

Post that link to all the GHB addicts please. I'd like a good laugh today. Being addicted to GHB is nonsense. The same person who would be addicted to GHB would be addicted to ANYTHING. Addiction=no self control.


You are a fucking idiot. Addition has nothing to do with self-control as people do not start out trying to be or as addicts. Some are more prone then others but all can become addicted if they use a drug such as ghb continually over a period of time. Once you are hooked you need the drug and self-control has nothing to do with it. When anyone starts using a drug they can do without it or take it or leave it for a while. After a period of time a line is crossed and they now need the drug. Maybe you have not crossed that line yet with ghb(or maybe you have and you do not realize it) but keep using it and eventually you will. Believe me when I tell you that you do not want to go through ghb withdrawal. I have a lot of personal experience with drugs both from my own use and others around me. I have used everything you can think of and the only thing that I od'ed on was ghb and not really from an excessive dose. I also have a friend who would take capfuls all day long. He tried to quit and could not because he got sick, got the shakes and hallucinated. He started out using ghb only for sleep. It was not for a few years until he was using it all the time. He had to go to a long term detox to get off.
Just don't come out with this rediculous shit that it is all a mtter of self control because that type of advice will get a lot of people in trouble.

 

[Daeo]

Sticks and stone may break my bones...

Post that link to all the GHB addicts please. I'd like a good laugh today. Being addicted to GHB is nonsense. The same person who would be addicted to GHB would be addicted to ANYTHING. Addiction=no self control.


You are a fucking idiot. Addition has nothing to do with self-control as people do not start out trying to be or as addicts. Some are more prone then others but all can become addicted if they use a drug such as ghb continually over a period of time. Once you are hooked you need the drug and self-control has nothing to do with it. When anyone starts using a drug they can do without it or take it or leave it for a while. After a period of time a line is crossed and they now need the drug. Maybe you have not crossed that line yet with ghb(or maybe you have and you do not realize it) but keep using it and eventually you will. Believe me when I tell you that you do not want to go through ghb withdrawal. I have a lot of personal experience with drugs both from my own use and others around me. I have used everything you can think of and the only thing that I od'ed on was ghb and not really from an excessive dose. I also have a friend who would take capfuls all day long. He tried to quit and could not because he got sick, got the shakes and hallucinated. He started out using ghb only for sleep. It was not for a few years until he was using it all the time. He had to go to a long term detox to get off.
Just don't come out with this rediculous shit that it is all a mtter of self control because that type of advice will get a lot of people in trouble.

Your first sentences supports exactly what I'm trying to get across. Sure using GHB everyday will possibly lead to withdrawls. But using it everyday isn't showing much self control is it? Addiction takes time. You don't drink 3mls of GHB one time and need it for the rest of your life. So what is your definition of self control? The GHB doesn't force itself into your body, does it? Are you being forced to drink it by gunpoint? GHB is a great drug for those who have what I define as "self control". I'll give you an example. Does an overly obese person exhibit self control? Of course not. He chooses to start eating excessively. It isn't like he ate one ho-ho and woke up the next morning a fat ass. The motherfucker didn't show any "self control". And please try to keep personal attacks out of this. It shows no class on your part...

 

[Daeo]

Why do you have to get fucked up at all? If you are into training enough to be taking steroids you shouldn't be worried about getting fucked up. Having two drinks when you go out when on steroids is not going to hurt you. Otherwise weed is probably your best bet. Or don't do the roids at all and just go out and party all you want. Forget ghb. It is a fucked up drug that is physically and mentally addictive. It is probably one of the worst choices you could make. The people on this board who say how safe and great ghb is are just addicted to it and trying to justify their use of it. They continually ignore the fact that people are getting physically hooked on it and are having withdrawals worse then heroin when trying to come off. The shit is bad news.

LOL! Addicted?!? I use GHB around 3-4 times a month max! I don't need to justify my usage to anyone. If you don't want to use it fine. I'm still waiting for that GHB addiction link you have...

 

[Daeo]

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you are very wrong. i have never been addicted to anything except g and ive done just about anything you can think of. it wasnt that hard for me to quit, but i definitely was addicted to it. its complete bullshit to say addiction equals no self control... when a drug causes withdrawal symptoms self control has very little to do with it..

Read my above post please. Self control starts with you, not the drug...

 

[Enzo250]

Weed..

"God put this here for me and you, you better take advantage"

 

[rushx79]

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Read my above post please. Self control starts with you, not the drug...

yes, i agree IF you know about the potential for addiction from ghb then it does have to do with self control. BUT people like you give other people the wrong impression about ghb, you make it seem like it is completely safe and there is no potential for physical addiction. if you think the drug is 100% safe with no chance of addiction then youre much more likely to abuse it. ive done cocaine 2 times in my life, my 18th and 21st birthday. since i knew the potential for addiction with the abuse of cocaine, i have never done it other than these times. with ghb i wasnt aware that you could become addicted . but with ghb i thought: here is a safe drug that you cant get addicted to, i can drink it and get some good sleep or i can get fucked up off it, still think with a clear head and have not hang-over. so i began to abuse it. why? because i didnt know the dangers because people like you come on here and say that the only people that get addicted to it are people that have no self control and that they are just addicted to the feeling.

 

[Daeo]

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yes, i agree IF you know about the potential for addiction from ghb then it does have to do with self control. BUT people like you give other people the wrong impression about ghb, you make it seem like it is completely safe and there is no potential for physical addiction. if you think the drug is 100% safe with no chance of addiction then youre much more likely to abuse it. ive done cocaine 2 times in my life, my 18th and 21st birthday. since i knew the potential for addiction with the abuse of cocaine, i have never done it other than these times. with ghb i wasnt aware that you could become addicted . but with ghb i thought: here is a safe drug that you cant get addicted to, i can drink it and get some good sleep or i can get fucked up off it, still think with a clear head and have not hang-over. so i began to abuse it. why? because i didnt know the dangers because people like you come on here and say that the only people that get addicted to it are people that have no self control and that they are just addicted to the feeling.

People like me, huh? Listen, I'm nobodies Mommy.How about I put a disclaimer underneath everything I type so that no one gets addicted to anything? How many nights a week do you like to be blitzed? If it's in the range where GHB is addictive to you, then you're the problem. Not the GHB. It's people like you(not me), that don't do a stitch of reasearch to know what you're putting into your body. And all these OD cases are a classic example of that. Someone hands you something and tells you to drink it and you do? Without knowing the concentration or where it even came from? Listen you can blame me all you like for other peoples mistakes. But I still stand by my statement that GHB is a perfect recreational drug for those who are intelligent and disciplined enough to use it...

 

[rushx79]

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People like me, huh? Listen, I'm nobodies Mommy.How about I put a disclaimer underneath everything I type so that no one gets addicted to anything? How many nights a week do you like to be blitzed? If it's in the range where GHB is addictive to you, then you're the problem. Not the GHB. It's people like you(not me), that don't do a stitch of reasearch to know what you're putting into your body. And all these OD cases are a classic example of that. Someone hands you something and tells you to drink it and you do? Without knowing the concentration or where it even came from? Listen you can blame me all you like for other peoples mistakes. But I still stand by my statement that GHB is a perfect recreational drug for those who are intelligent and disciplined enough to use it...

yes, people like you. in case you didnt notice, ghb is a drug that is related to body building, and this is a bodybuilding board. so a lot of people actually come here to get what? information on subjects related to bodybuilding. im saying you need to put a disclaimer, mam. im saying that when you spread the idea that ghb is harmless and that people with no self control are the only people that get addicted to it, then you become part of the problem on why people get addicted to it. so in a way you ARE responsible for other peoples mistakes by spreading mis-information. also, a lot of people have o.d.ed just from ghb alone. i had been taking one dose to get messed up and a little stronger dose to sleep. one day, long after i found it was addictive and cut down on using it to only once a month or so, i took my normal messed up dose. i didnt feel anything after an hour so i took about another 3rd of my normal messed up dose and guess what? i spent the rest of the day throwing my guts up. i hadnt had a single thing with alcohol within a week and i hadnt taken any other drugs within the last couple years. if that happened to me, then i can easily see someone dying from just taking ghb. i have talked to several other people that this has happened to. so once again youre spreading mis-information.

 

[Daeo]

Rushx79. You're barking up the wrong tree...

Point out my misinformation for me please. I've always advocated safe and reasonable GHB usage. Go look up some of my other GHB posts. I don't advocate using GHB everyday. I don't advocate using capfuls to measure out. I do advocate knowing what concentration your GHB is. So please tell me where I"m leading people wrong. Because I don't tell everyone not to use it everyday? That's not my job and if you don't have the common sense not to you're a fucking fool...

 

[rushx79]

Re: Re: I say, have a few drinks!

Post that link to all the GHB addicts please. I'd like a good laugh today. Being addicted to GHB is nonsense. The same person who would be addicted to GHB would be addicted to ANYTHING. Addiction=no self control.

there you go. youre implying that only people with no self control get addicted to ghb and that there is no physical addiction to it. like i said, you dont need to put a disclaimer, but when you spread mis-imformation such as this, you become part of the problem. ive done just about anything you can think of and i never became addicted to any of them except ghb, so what you say is nonsense. also, i use a syringe to measure out my ghb and the ghb i got sick off of was the same ghb i had been using for the past few months.