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rushx79 said:


yeah, in case you didnt know ghb is also used as a sleep aid and just after a couple nights of using it for that purpose most people do experience witdrawal symptoms. so using anything every night cases withdrawal symptoms? thats funny, from 15 to 18 i smoked weed just about every single day from 18-19 i drank almost every other day, i never experienced any withdrawal symptoms. after using ghb for only a few days in a row, i experienced some shitty withdrawals. how is it nonsense to be additcted to it when you have people such as your self implying that there is no physical addiction? that gives people the wrong idea, and causes a greater potential for abuse. i myself researched the subject pretty extensively before i tried it, i didnt not see anything about it being addictive until more recently. also, from your previous posts you imply that youre more intelligent than other people because youve never been addicted. that statement alone shows your ignorance, some of the most intelligent people i have ever known ended up being the biggest coke or speed addicts.

I never stated that I was smarter than anyone. I am smart enough to know what my limits are though. I'm also smart enough to research something and not jump head first into things that could possibly do me harm. I do question your statement about no withdraws from alcohol though. You're telling me you NEVER experienced a hangover before? And implying I'm addicted to GHB when I use it once a week TOPS, is silly. I'll agree GHB may not be for everyone. But if you can use it responsibly there's nothing that beats it...
 
ok first off, science is unsure about whether a hang-over is caused by withdrawal symptoms. also, if a hangover is a withdrawal symptom from alcohol, then there is a huge difference between withdrawal symptoms from that and ghb. being hungover has never made me want to drink more to get rid of that hangover, instead, i just want to eat, rest, and drink water. with ghb witrawal symptoms, you get the shakes, an overall shitty feeling, increased heartbeat, increased anxiety, in some extreme cases hallucinations, and insomnia. the only way to get rid of the withdrawal symptoms from ghb is to sit it out or take some more ghb. 2nd off i researched ghb extensively before i tried it and NEVER heard of the potential for actual chemical addiction until more recently. i completely agree that ghb used once a week is a pretty safe thing, but i also believe that the potential for abuse is far greater than any drug i have ever used. here is why: it can get you messed up and get you to sleep, it doesnt supress appetite, you can be messed up and still function with a clear head on it, most important of all, from people such as yourself either right out saying that it is in no way addictive or implying that the only people that get addicted to it are weak minded and have no self control, a lot of people think you cannot get addicted to it. so when people like me come on here and try to warn of the potential for addiction to what many claim is a completely harmless drug and you be little addicts of ghb, it doesnt help and has the potential to harm more people.
 
I love it...

My own stupidity wielded it as a dagger twice and tried to kill me.

But I still love it, because it wasn't the G that put me in the hospital, it was my own arrogance in regards to dosage.

If you are intelligent and respectful of its power, it is a remarkable recreational drug.

If you fail to understand its sardonic ways, you will die.
 
I guess you're an addict and an idiot too now...

Puc said:
I love it...

My own stupidity wielded it as a dagger twice and tried to kill me.

But I still love it, because it wasn't the G that put me in the hospital, it was my own arrogance in regards to dosage.

If you are intelligent and respectful of its power, it is a remarkable recreational drug.

If you fail to understand its sardonic ways, you will die.

Amen...
 
Please stop putting words in my mouth...

rushx79 said:
ok first off, science is unsure about whether a hang-over is caused by withdrawal symptoms. also, if a hangover is a withdrawal symptom from alcohol, then there is a huge difference between withdrawal symptoms from that and ghb. being hungover has never made me want to drink more to get rid of that hangover, instead, i just want to eat, rest, and drink water. with ghb witrawal symptoms, you get the shakes, an overall shitty feeling, increased heartbeat, increased anxiety, in some extreme cases hallucinations, and insomnia. the only way to get rid of the withdrawal symptoms from ghb is to sit it out or take some more ghb. 2nd off i researched ghb extensively before i tried it and NEVER heard of the potential for actual chemical addiction until more recently. i completely agree that ghb used once a week is a pretty safe thing, but i also believe that the potential for abuse is far greater than any drug i have ever used. here is why: it can get you messed up and get you to sleep, it doesnt supress appetite, you can be messed up and still function with a clear head on it, most important of all, from people such as yourself either right out saying that it is in no way addictive or implying that the only people that get addicted to it are weak minded and have no self control, a lot of people think you cannot get addicted to it. so when people like me come on here and try to warn of the potential for addiction to what many claim is a completely harmless drug and you be little addicts of ghb, it doesnt help and has the potential to harm more people.

There you go again quoting something I never said. I've never said it didn't have the possibility to become addictive. What I did say is that it's your own fucking fault for becoming addicted to it. Habitual usage will lead to addiction. More psychological than physical in most cases in my opinion. Listen, everyone chooses their own path in life. Fat people are fat for the same reason as people addicted to whatever drug you may choose are. The didn't know when to stop...
 
rushx79 said:
stupidity promoted by people like you daeo.

Why am I an idiot all of a sudden? Because I can handle and like to use GHB occasionaly? I can guarantee Puc used GHB before he's ever heard of me. I guess I was over at Puc's house forcing GHB down his throat. There's no getting through to you guys is there...
 
Re: Please stop putting words in my mouth...

Daeo said:


There you go again quoting something I never said. I've never said it didn't have the possibility to become addictive. What I did say is that it's your own fucking fault for becoming addicted to it. Habitual usage will lead to addiction. More psychological than physical in most cases in my opinion. Listen, everyone chooses their own path in life. Fat people are fat for the same reason as people addicted to whatever drug you may choose are. The didn't know when to stop...

wow you are a ignorant fuck... i tried talking sense to you but you refuse to understand logic.. i never said you said that it wasnt addictive. i did say that you imply by your comments that that it isnt chemically addictive and that the only people that get addicted are weak minded. also you dont seem to realize that this is a board where a lot of people come for information on various subjects related to bodybuilding and when imply what you imply you promot unsafe use of a potentially harmful drug.
 
Daeo said:


Why am I an idiot all of a sudden? Because I can handle and like to use GHB occasionaly? I can guarantee Puc used GHB before he's ever heard of me. I guess I was over at Puc's house forcing GHB down his throat. There's no getting through to you guys is there...

no youre an idiot for claiming that only weakminded stupid people get addicted to it. your claim is stupid therefore you are promoting stupidity and irresponsible use of a potentially harmful drug.
 
I understand everything you're saying(but don't agree with alot of it). If you would take the time to read everything that I have posted in this thread you will see I advocate safe usage. Once a week usage(which is what I recommend)will NOT lead to a dependence. I've never told anyone to take it everyday. Nor have I told anyone to use extravagant amounts. Just because I say I like a certain drug and think it's safe, doesn't have to lead to name calling. If I've never said it can't cause a dependence if abused, where's the problem???
 
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