Safe PCT

[skopersm]

Hi there,

To make a long story short, I took finasteride now I am screwed with low T.

I took one tablet of clomid, noticed a bit of energy and a pimple appear on my back which I use to get prior to finasteride.

Anyway,

I wana try a small dose of T to see if I feel amy difference at higher levels. I have learnt my lesson about taking drugs so am now hesitent to take anything that may be dangerous.

I have done sone reading on Clomid and Nolvadex, they are toxic drugs that cause dna damage so they do not look nearly as safe as the T itself.

So, any one got any good ideas how I can try to bump up my test for a couple of weeks without causing suppression that will lead to me needing a PCT? I have thought about HCG but realize this could elevate E2 while on. If i did 100mg Test C for 2 weeks would I need a pct?

Any idea on a good safe pct?

 

[skopersm]

27
194cm | 6f 3
87kilos
bf% maybe 8-9%
Thank you

 

[skopersm]

Hi there I have tried quite a few things to help with my natrual test.

T-Bomb 2
Deasal test
Sustain Alpha for a couple of weeks
1.5gams of tribulus a day
ZMA
Longjack ali 1:200 extract
I lift weights / sprint / eat super healthy / sleep well / eat alot of healthy fat / take a MV / get a good amount of sun and VIT d3

Have not tried the danivil based products or testo fen so that product may be worth a go.

I did try some andriol and it seemed to help initially but it is absorbed porley so its very hit and miss. I also tested out Proviron, took 50 25mg pills in about 10 days. No real help with libido.

I recall that my total testlevel was that of a 60 yr old when looking on the chart. Did not get a free test test. SGHB was lowish and E was lowish too.

So I was wanting to try to test out some test for a short period of time where it would not cause suppression. Maybe that is not possible?

 

[skopersm]

Well my test is in the range. So I the docs will say its fine. But the range is the same for eveyone 20 yr olds and 80 year olds.

I took finasteride for 3 months over 2 years ago. Since then no improvments in libido. Was like night and day. Also hair loss has stopped fat storages seems to be different and no back pimples anymore. These days sex is optional i could go a year without wacking it or hitting the boneyard. Before finasteride wouldnt be able to go 3 or 4 days.

I just wana take test for a week or so to see if it will do anything in regards to these things? Its possible that even with high test I will still have these same problems. So it is something I just want to try.

I live in Thailand my blood tests are in Australia. I don't think they show much only that my test is something like 320 when converted to the US scale.

So are you saying that one can use HCG and HMG to replace clomid and nolvadex? I really wana avoid taking that stuff even though I noticed some improvments when I took a tab of clomid.

Thanks again

 

[RADAR]

DAMN! will you just Quit being obcessed with test! Listen to Ozzie ,I'm 58 an HCGenerate has me hopping like a horney rabbit ,it frees up sex bound hormone goblin.all a few injects of test will do is shut down your natural production so you will be worse off than before!

 

[thelocal]

he doesnt want to learn,he has his ways stuck in his head

 

[skopersm]

what are you talking about? I have tried so many products. I forgot to mention L-Dopa, stinging nettle to lower SBHG. Eveyone was talking about deasel Test on another sponsored board, I gave it a go and nothing. I could keep buying natrual test boosters to the cows come home. I will take your advice and give this product a go. But all in all would it really be safe to take any natrual test booster for very long periods of time?

 

[stevesmi]

my friend if you take test like ozzie said your body will shut down and you wont produce test on your own.

you say you are in the range.. that is good news. now run a PCT immediately. I would run HCG, nolva and clomid. you can throw in hcgenerate/unleashed/post cycle as natty supps. but you said you already took natty's so i would go to the hammer at this point.

HCG 1500 iu's every 4 days for 1 month
clomid for 2 weeks.. 50mg/day (you can tweak that as needed)
nolva for 3 weeks.. 20-40mg/day (tweak as needed)

wait 2 weeks then re-test. and then if things bounced up then just lay off for 2-3 months and let ur body recover.

do more research next time.. tren is nothing to mess with.. and keep your cycles SHORT.

 

[C.K.]

What on earth were you taking finistride by itself for people normally take it to combat a certain test side now you're wishing to add test? Seems like you enjoy screwing with your body...

 

[skopersm]

C.k : i was taking finasteride as my hair was falling out. There are tens or hundreds of thousands of people taking it to combat hairloss. It is marketed as propecia.

stevesmi: I never took "tren" in my life i have take a few pills of andriol and prioviron. I have been in this state for 2 years it. I wana try some more clomid but still worried about its toxicity and long term effects.

Will probably give the HCG and Unleashed ago.


I was trying to find out if a small dose of test would cause suprression. Ie like 80 mg a week for 2 weeks? or less?

 

[C.K.]

Like a side that's a side effect of test being converted to dht now you don't think that taking more test won't cause more shedding???

 

[skopersm]

don't care about my hair any more i just wana get myself mainly libido back to what it was the day before taking my first finasteride pill.

 

[stevesmi]

C.k : i was taking finasteride as my hair was falling out. There are tens or hundreds of thousands of people taking it to combat hairloss. It is marketed as propecia.

stevesmi: I never took "tren" in my life i have take a few pills of andriol and prioviron. I have been in this state for 2 years it. I wana try some more clomid but still worried about its toxicity and long term effects.

Will probably give the HCG and Unleashed ago.


I was trying to find out if a small dose of test would cause suprression. Ie like 80 mg a week for 2 weeks? or less?

sorry i misread it about the tren.. thought you wrote finaplix. lol.... trying to work and scan on here at the same time.

anyway the answer is absolutely it will continue to shut you down. if you are putting test in your body then the body will shut off producing it. even if its a small amount and even if you taper. you must STOP it totally and allow 3 weeks or so for the esthers to leave the body.. only then will ur body start producing its own test and recover.

the crash you experience will be like night and day. it SUCKS. but that is what PCT is for

as for the Clomid its just like any drug with side effects.. but that is the can of worms we opened when we took steroids to begin with right? i would argue running smart cycles then a PCT along with exercise and healthy eating is more healthy then a mcdonalds/smoking/alcoholic lifestyle that most of America is on!

 

[caribeman]

Propecia has been known to do a number on people. This gets agrivated with excesive use of alcohol and other drugs. Estrogen could get elevated while using this med but I have yet to read where it causes low test levels. Test wont do the trick especially for 1 week or 2. You need to get a full blood panel ("ish" numbers dont work) and figure out if you have Low test readings, high estrogen or low libido or ed ( low libido and ED are 2 different things). Once you have the results talk to your Doctor about it and take it from there. Better get to Cialis for now though it does nothing for libido.