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FANATICS defending Basra were pumped with steroids to make them suicidally brave and violent, it was revealed last night.

Soldiers have found dead and injured Fedayeen Saddam and Ba’ath Party loyalists with tell-tale injection track marks.

And Basra hospitals are full of wounded irregulars who startled British troops with wild attacks.

Last night British Forces spokesman Colonel Chris Vernon said a fanatic shot dead after leaping on to a Challenger II brandishing a grenade had certainly been on drugs.

He said: “How else could someone leap on to a tank that size? It is crazy, bertain suicide."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...siteid=50143&headline=SADDAM MARTYRS ON DRUGS
 
I have a friend from Iran whos dad used to be in the military. He said they give you juice in the military to make you more aggressive. I don't see how some testoviron is gonna help against a tomahawk cruise missle or an F-22 though.
 
I would think they would give the soliders something like crystal meth. I don't see how steriods will make them suicidal but meth will.
 
maybe when u keep telling them they should be grateful it sorta negates the idea of helping them in the first place.

u dont know what perecentage of the iraqi population was pro saddam and what percentage was anti saddam. for all we know most of the country was pro him. so we have not necessarily "freed the iraqi people" but we may have invaded and enslaved them.

our militaries have tried numerous drugs on soldiers. including xtc, and methamphetamine. so if someone else uses roids or whatever i dont see how it makes them any worse than us.
 
jacobswell said:

u dont know what perecentage of the iraqi population was pro saddam and what percentage was anti saddam. for all we know most of the country was pro him. so we have not necessarily "freed the iraqi people" but we may have invaded and enslaved them.

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keep thinking that buddy

but hey your welcomed to your ignorant oppinion. They seem pretty happy to me and correct me if I am wrong, but if the total population supported saddam they why didn't they put up a better fight and would tehy be partying in teh streets?
 
correct me of im wrong but i dont think that the few hundred people that you saw in bagdad constitutes the entire 25m or so population feeling liberated.
infact on the british tv stations we get the other side of the story and we have heard interviews with some regular iraqi's saying that they are scared to say they support saddam in public now becuase they are scared they will be killed by the looters or american troops. so they dont say anything. much like they did under saddam.
and maybe they didnt put up a better fight becuase they didnt want to fight against weapons like the MOAB. which IMO is a WMD. but its an american one so im sure u dont think it counts as one.
 
Ahh, the MOAB what a wonderful toy.

We'll see in the long run buddy. I believe teh brits have balls of steel, taking on hitler and helping america deal with other tyrants, but there always another group and we have them here in the states who are spoiled and think they know best for everyone. they believe in apeasement, just liek your buddy chamberlain did with hitler. They jsut assume keep kicking teh can down teh road and everything will get better and if not who cares it doesn't effect me.

What teh brave men and women of britain and teh united states did to liberate Iraq shouldn't be spun by a bunch of liberal assholes because they didn't get teh massacre they hoped would take place.

I am confident in teh long run the iraqi peopel will be better off because of our sacrifice. You may not agree with me, but were not there to conquer where there to bring democracy.

I'm done with my preaching.
 
It is VERY likely that they are hopped up on meth. I talked to the head surgeon who treated the wounded soldiers after Tianamen Square. He said they were impossible to manage because they were all hopped up on crank. Guys were walking around holding their guts in their hands wanting to get back to the action.
 
Very well put jacobswell. What makes us as Americans think that we know what is best for the rest of the world? Hell we can't even get our own countrys affairs in order, yet we want to liberate another country? What a laugh. Maybe some Halo, would help out their millitary.
 
Don't you think it's more a political position that the US is taking with respect for our justification for going into Iraq? If we go in under the rationale that we're there to "liberate" the Iraqi people it sends a better message to the international community and quasi justifies why we're obliterating the country.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very much in favor of the war but I think the underlining reason we're there is to get Saddam and his regime out since they do pose a threat to our national security.
 
Mods, delete or lock this thread. Read the title of the board please. This is a steroid discussion forum, not a political one. Ive seen many good boards go down the hill because of garbage post like this one.
 
"...with tell-tale injection track marks." - Come on guys, with all the juice heads here I think this would scream BULLSHIT to most.
 
British Bulldog said:
Mods, delete or lock this thread. Read the title of the board please. This is a steroid discussion forum, not a political one. Ive seen many good boards go down the hill because of garbage post like this one.
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chill bro this is an interesting thread.
 
I am almost positive that both Iraq and Iran use steroids in extensively the military. This being said, do I think that it is responsible for suicidal maniacs who strap bombs to themselves and run into US checkpoints? Of course not, only a complete idiot would come to that conclusion.
 
jacobswell said:
maybe when u keep telling them they should be grateful it sorta negates the idea of helping them in the first place.

u dont know what perecentage of the iraqi population was pro saddam and what percentage was anti saddam. for all we know most of the country was pro him. so we have not necessarily "freed the iraqi people" but we may have invaded and enslaved them.

our militaries have tried numerous drugs on soldiers. including xtc, and methamphetamine. so if someone else uses roids or whatever i dont see how it makes them any worse than us.
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Hm well Sadaam is estimated to have killed rougly 20 million of his people while he has been in power. He has raped, and tortored many more I am sure. After seeing interviews with Iraqii's I think it is pretty clear Iraq is NOT pro Sadaam. Sure there are some, but most are very anti-Sadaam. Why else would they have been throwing their shoes at his statue when it came down? I know you said "that's just Baghdad" but if you have seen any of the interviews with Iraqii's and former Iraqii citizens living in the United States it is VERY apparrent that most hate the man
 
This article is really some bad propaganda. It's no good for the image of steroids and steroid users either. There is no concrete evidence of steroid use given in the article, and their weak evidence comes in the form of track marks, and some Colonel's assumption that the fundamentalist maniac had to have been on drugs.

First of all I've never heard of "track marks" being related to steroids. These guys could have been injected with a ton of different drugs which would be MUCH better suited for aggression and combat than steroids. SofaGeorge mentioned the likely use of Methamphetamine, which has been known to be used by combat forces. Shit, our OWN pilots were forced to use amphetamines in the recent years to be able to fly sorties at any hour of the day.

Then the comment about the nut who jumps on the tank doesn't mention steroids at all. Sure, the guy could have been on a whole host of drugs that might cause that behavior, but what about the thousands of other suicide bombers in the past and present? I can assure you that they were not ALL on drugs, most of them were just fucking insane. I don't know about you guys, but when I'm on, I don't get any urges to jump into certain death.

This kind of reporting is the bullshit that keeps juice so taboo. Now if you get caught with steroids, people are going to compare you to our suicide bomber enemies. Those terrible steroids are what drives people to hate America.
 
McBane said:

Hm well Sadaam is estimated to have killed rougly 20 million of his people while he has been in power. He has raped, and tortored many more I am sure. After seeing interviews with Iraqii's I think it is pretty clear Iraq is NOT pro Sadaam. Sure there are some, but most are very anti-Sadaam. Why else would they have been throwing their shoes at his statue when it came down? I know you said "that's just Baghdad" but if you have seen any of the interviews with Iraqii's and former Iraqii citizens living in the United States it is VERY apparrent that most hate the man
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the highest estimate i have heard is 3 million but the standard one seems to be 1 million people that he has killed. but those estimates also tend to include the people in the iran and iraq war. so hardly his people then. im not justofying saddam but im saying that u cant guess that the majority of iraq is anti saddam becuase one photo op on the news has told you so. iraqi dissedents are likely to hate saddam, but they do not represent the whole iraqi population. much like saddam did not represent the whole iraqi population.
dude dont believe everything our governments or media tells you. its in their interests for them to sell you the idea of this war.
 
McBane said:

Hm well Sadaam is estimated to have killed rougly 20 million of his people while he has been in power. He has raped, and tortored many more I am sure. After seeing interviews with Iraqii's I think it is pretty clear Iraq is NOT pro Sadaam. Sure there are some, but most are very anti-Sadaam. Why else would they have been throwing their shoes at his statue when it came down? I know you said "that's just Baghdad" but if you have seen any of the interviews with Iraqii's and former Iraqii citizens living in the United States it is VERY apparrent that most hate the man
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the highest estimate i have heard is 3 million but the standard one seems to be 1 million people that he has killed. but those estimates also tend to include the people in the iran and iraq war. so hardly his people then. and they also include the 500,000 people who died from the US led UN sanctions on iraq. which many iraqi's still blame the US for. at least whats what the bbc says.
im not justifying saddam but im saying that u cant guess that the majority of iraq is anti saddam becuase one photo op on the news has told you so. iraqi dissedents are likely to hate saddam, but they do not represent the whole iraqi population. much like saddam did not represent the whole iraqi population.
dude dont believe everything our governments or media tells you. its in their interests for them to sell you the idea of this war. they are hardly likely to say to you that saddam is a lovely guy who treats people nicely when they go to war with him. the first casualty of war is the truth.
 
you know taht teh BBC is very liberal and has been a vocal anti-war proponent. It's owned by the government so there can't be any repercussions considering most government officials in england did not support the war.

You seem very anti-war anti-us and you seem to be basing your information on the BBC so I am just curious how informed you are?
 
you know taht teh BBC is very liberal and has been a vocal anti-war proponent. It's owned by the government so there can't be any repercussions considering most government officials in england did not support the war.

You seem very anti-war anti-us and you seem to be basing your information on the BBC so I am just curious how informed you are? not saying that teh BBC is laying at all all ia m saying is that there views are skewed to teh left.
 
This post was originally about saddam's troops on steroids, and I don't really want to get into a political debate, but I need to just paste this from an article I read (maybe nytimes, i forget).

This was in response to Iraqis wondering if they should trust Bush:
"At that point, an elderly man, Sultan Mahdi, stepped forward to declaim that such ambivalence was an evasion. "For 75 years I have been alive, and I'll say this," he said. "If the Iraqi people loved Saddam Hussein, the American military wouldn't be able to last one day in Iraq. Not one day. We would attack them."

You have to realize this too, the armed majority of the Iraqi population is multiple times larger than our armed forces in their country. If these armed civilians wanted to resist the invasion, I believe they would.

Anyway... I debate this war every day, going to an incredibly liberal school, so let's get back to anabolics shall we?
 
bumpo said:
you know taht teh BBC is very liberal and has been a vocal anti-war proponent. It's owned by the government so there can't be any repercussions considering most government officials in england did not support the war.

You seem very anti-war anti-us and you seem to be basing your information on the BBC so I am just curious how informed you are? not saying that teh BBC is laying at all all ia m saying is that there views are skewed to teh left.
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i was using the example of the bbc because i know that many americans regard the bbc as reputable. i do not, and infact it has been accused by people from all quarters of being biased. i base my views on different news channels. i watch them all and then make up my mind. of course im not out there in iraq so i dont know what its like on the street. but all im saying is that most people seem to think they know what the iraqi people are thinking but we dont beccuase we are not the iraqi people. i find it insulting to my intelligence that people like bush keep telling me what they are thinking.

and im not anti ameican. im anti the present US president who wasnt even elected. it kinda throws the idea that saddam is the only one who fixes elections out of the window. if Bush was actually fighting to bring democracy to the world he would resign today. or have a re-election.
 
jacobswell said:


and im not anti ameican. im anti the present US president who wasnt even elected. it kinda throws the idea that saddam is the only one who fixes elections out of the window. if Bush was actually fighting to bring democracy to the world he would resign today. or have a re-election.
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all your credibility just went out the door, I was actually going to be accepting of your views, but obviously your a very biast person who is quite ignorant and it's quite sad.
 
Bro read the Michael Moore book "stupid white men" and learn how the election was really won. And then come back to me and spout in your puerile conformist drivel.

Calling me ignorant because I happen to dislike Bush shows how poor your argument is. I was suggesting that because GWB did not win the majority of votes in the president election that he was not the people’s choice. And if you had read your politics textbook, you would know the meaning of the word democracy is literally “people power.” Hence the people have no power because a guy they did not vote for is in power. Hence the win was not democratic. So fighting for “democracy” in Iraq as I have heard Bush say so many times is not only hypocritical when his election win was fixed, but it is insulting to our intelligence. But if one has no intelligence I guess it can’t be insulting to some.
 
Micheal Moore haha your a fool! lmao thats the funniest thing I have heard in a longtime. You could have chosen anyone else and you chose Micheal moore. I think you should stick to bodybuilding bro because if you ever used that line with an intellectual crowd you would be laughed out the door.

oh by the way buddy american politics aren't decided on popular votes there decided on electoral votes that how the president is elected.
 
This is all I have to say: Many Iraqi troops were on steroids. Those steroids did not have anyting to do with their behavior except they may be able to bench press 2 goats instead of one.

I am also very ashamed that Canada did not decide to assist the US forces, however the decision was not mine to make. It almost seems that "we" said no only to exercise our right to disagree. That being said I think our support of our closest allies would have bolstered the worlds view of the US led coalition in Iraq.:(
 
If anything I think meth was involved. Easy to make and easy to make fight. It originated in Japan in WWII. They would give their pilots that shit. It then went into the population. It took two A-Bombs to stop them. The only way those guys would benefit from AS is some Halo or similar. Either way, you don't go to a gun fight with a knife.............peace!

Arias
 
This is a nice link about amphetamines and US soldiers. It is funny that the US has very strict laws concerning drugs, yet they do not hesitate to drug up and fuck up soldiers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2595641.stm



Drugs involved in friendly fire deaths


The 'friendly fire' killed four Canadian soldiers



By Michael Buchanan
BBC correspondent in Washington


Two American pilots accused in a fatal "friendly fire" incident in Afghanistan took amphetamines before it occurred, an enquiry has found.
The pilots were taking the drugs prescribed by the United States military when they killed four Canadians last April, according to US Air Force investigators.

They are awaiting a court martial hearing due to start next month.


The Canadians who died were serving in Kandahar
US Air Force majors Harry Schmidt and William Umbach face up to 64 years in prison following the incident over Kandahar.

The pilots thought they were being fired at and dropped a laser-guided missile on their presumed attackers.

It was only when they had killed four people and injured eight that they were told the group were Canadian soldiers taking part in a night live-fire exercise and that they had informed the US military.

But it has now emerged that about an hour before the incident the two men had taken amphetamines, or speed as it is commonly known, that had been given to them by the US Air Force.

'Go'-pills

The pills, which are illegal in the US, are given to combat pilots who are involved in long eight or nine-hour sorties in small controlled doses, say the military.

The Air Force stopped prescribing the 'Go' pills, as they are known by the pilots, in 1993 after reports that crews using them during the Gulf War became addicted.

But the drug has been quietly reintroduced in recent years.

The Air Force says they are a medical tool that is essential for combat pilots being sent to war over Afghanistan and, possibly, Iraq.
 
meth use would make much more sense as anabolics (even cheque drops) are largely ineffective without food (and we know the troops didn't exactly have plentiful food)(yes, some folks might benefit in starvation from androgens, but im talking out of 10,000, not too many will)... since meth is cheap, requires no food, and keeps you up all night, if i were saddam (perish the thought, but for the sake of this argument), chosing meth would be a no-brainer... either that or any other fast-acting, euphoric drugs ... because besides the need for food, almost nobody likes to inject anything that isn't going to provide immediate pleasure (a common problem for steroid injections)...

and track marks? most steroid users would actually have scar tissue , but track marks (if i remember my nursing studies) are for veins, but i could be wrong, nevertheless, meth and other amphetamines (which im sure he could have easily stockpiled) are easy to make and a better idea for him at least as it pertains to his strategy (which is not the point of discussion, but it is pertinent to why he would chose one drug)
 
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