running proviron on a first cycle?

[*The_West*]

thats it folks, the title pretty much says it all. im planning on doing my first cycle in about 3 years, will probably go for test e 250mg e5d. iv been doing a bit of reading on proviron, i like the sound of it, more free test, prevention of steroids aromatizing, but what i cant find is whether it would be beneficial to run on a first cycle, or just unnecessary?
keeping in mind that adex will probably be used at .5mg eod and pct will be spot on. thanks

 

[*The_West*]

anyone?

 

[nickster#1]

thats it folks, the title pretty much says it all. im planning on doing my first cycle in about 3 years, will probably go for test e 250mg e5d. iv been doing a bit of reading on proviron, i like the sound of it, more free test, prevention of steroids aromatizing, but what i cant find is whether it would be beneficial to run on a first cycle, or just unnecessary?
keeping in mind that adex will probably be used at .5mg eod and pct will be spot on. thanks

I looked for your stats, but could not find them. This is going to be your first cycle? I always ran proviron durring all my cycles and yes, very beneficial. If you already posted your stats, I apologize, but I would give more info if I knew a little more about you, goals, stats and age, etc..........sorry again if your stats are posted. I didnt see them in your profile????

 

[*The_West*]

they are there, but il post them now. 21 years old, 6 foot dead, 185lbs, 6%bf.
i have been training (muay thai) for many years, which has obviously involved resistance training, but with the focus on gaining strength, not size.
early last year i broke my ankle real bad, they have always been a weak point of mine, and my doctor, who is amazing and i trust whatever he tells me, tells me it would be unwise to pursue a career in fighting now. its not what i wanted to hear, but what can you do? so since the start of the year i have been training with the focus on getting big and ripped.

 

[*The_West*]

anyone else?

 

[nickster#1]

they are there, but il post them now. 21 years old, 6 foot dead, 185lbs, 6%bf.
i have been training (muay thai) for many years, which has obviously involved resistance training, but with the focus on gaining strength, not size.
early last year i broke my ankle real bad, they have always been a weak point of mine, and my doctor, who is amazing and i trust whatever he tells me, tells me it would be unwise to pursue a career in fighting now. its not what i wanted to hear, but what can you do? so since the start of the year i have been training with the focus on getting big and ripped.

In my book, 21 is still a little young to be doing AAS as you still have an abundance of natty test you can utilize. Sorry to hear about your ankle bro, but if you trust your doc that much, then good luck in your endeavors in BB. When you are ready to do your first cycle, I would run test-e or cyp, NOT SUST, at 500mg a week, and run proviron at 50 to 75 mg a day along with for 12 weeks. you will be amazed at the gains if your diet and training are proper. I dont like sust as it has too many esters.
Good luck bro

 

[galaxy]

Just as you said. Frees up more test and a mild anti e. I stress mild. But more than enough more than likely for that dose of test.

 

[iceman7230]

You better have a pussy source for that cycle! LOL!

 

[1911-45-nizzle]

You better have a pussy source for that cycle! LOL!

hehe

try

test prop 50mg eod
tren a 100mg ed
cabaser 1mg e3d
proviron 50mg ed

ol lady is spreadin 2X ed and sucking at least once a day, her mouth and puss is beat to shit

 

[iceman7230]

hehe

try

test prop 50mg eod
tren a 100mg ed
cabaser 1mg e3d
proviron 50mg ed

ol lady is spreadin 2X ed and sucking at least once a day, her mouth and puss is beat to shit [/QUOTE]
LMAO!

Ya I am glad my girl likes it rough because I get a little more physical when on.

I am doing:

test prop 100mgs ed
masteron 100mgs ed
proviron 25mgs eod
winny 75mgs ed

Next week I am dropping the winny and adding

tren a 75mgs ed
anavar 50mgs ed
Next

 

[*The_West*]

In my book, 21 is still a little young to be doing AAS as you still have an abundance of natty test you can utilize. Sorry to hear about your ankle bro, but if you trust your doc that much, then good luck in your endeavors in BB. When you are ready to do your first cycle, I would run test-e or cyp, NOT SUST, at 500mg a week, and run proviron at 50 to 75 mg a day along with for 12 weeks. you will be amazed at the gains if your diet and training are proper. I dont like sust as it has too many esters.
Good luck bro

if you read my first post you'll see that i actually say im planning on doing my first cycle in about 3 years. but thanks for the info, its looking like i will run test e 250mg e5d
proviron 50mg ed
il see how i react to that before i do one with a dbol kickstart.

 

[*The_West*]

hehe

try

test prop 50mg eod
tren a 100mg ed
cabaser 1mg e3d
proviron 50mg ed

ol lady is spreadin 2X ed and sucking at least once a day, her mouth and puss is beat to shit

every day injects and tren for my first cycle? no thanks!

 

[1911-45-nizzle]

you say your first cycle in three years and then you say it's your first cycle, if you cycled 3 years ago, this is NOT your first cycle

 

[OMEGA]

Just as you said. Frees up more test and a mild anti e. I stress mild. But more than enough more than likely for that dose of test.

CORRECT

also a first cycle should be 400-500 of Test E of C

thats a true reference point as far a am concerned here

 

[cadey]

CORRECT

also a first cycle should be 400-500 of Test E of C

thats a true reference point as far a am concerned here

+1 my first was 500mg test c

 

[*The_West*]

you say your first cycle in three years and then you say it's your first cycle, if you cycled 3 years ago, this is NOT your first cycle

where did you learn to read? im saying "im planning on doing my first cycle-in 3 years time"

CORRECT

also a first cycle should be 400-500 of Test E of C

thats a true reference point as far a am concerned here

after much deliberation on this point, whether to go 250 or 500, i think im going to go with 250. i know mnay who have grown with low doses like that, so i figure, il start low, because if everything is perfect i will grow well off that, know that i react ok, then go with 500 (with a cheeky dbol kicker) on my second, if i then choose to. which i probably will!

 

[mudbone5150]

every day injects and tren for my first cycle? no thanks!

+1
Personally, I'd never recommend Tren for a first timer.

 

[nzrodney]

CORRECT

also a first cycle should be 400-500 of Test E of C

thats a true reference point as far a am concerned here

Exactly. A first cycle should only consist of one compound & then subsequent cycles build on that . Otherwise there is no understanding of how each chem works in your body. You can start a 12 week cycle on 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks then boost the dose up to 500mg. This allows the body to react to increased test levels, you will shut down on this dose probably anyway, & then the increased dose will give you added stimulis & consolidate the cycle. Work in the gym should be intense & diet should be reasonably clean and high in calories. To this extent, if you are not planning to run the gear for some months, you can gradually work on your training intensity & calorie intake so that you have got a good solid base to work from when you start your cycle. You do not need proviron or hcg on a test only cycle, & you certainly dont need trenbolone.

 

[*The_West*]

Exactly. A first cycle should only consist of one compound & then subsequent cycles build on that . Otherwise there is no understanding of how each chem works in your body. You can start a 12 week cycle on 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks then boost the dose up to 500mg. This allows the body to react to increased test levels, you will shut down on this dose probably anyway, & then the increased dose will give you added stimulis & consolidate the cycle. Work in the gym should be intense & diet should be reasonably clean and high in calories. To this extent, if you are not planning to run the gear for some months, you can gradually work on your training intensity & calorie intake so that you have got a good solid base to work from when you start your cycle. You do not need proviron or hcg on a test only cycle, & you certainly dont need trenbolone.

of course you need hcg on a test only cycle, why on earth would you say that?

 

[OMEGA]

Exactly. A first cycle should only consist of one compound & then subsequent cycles build on that . Otherwise there is no understanding of how each chem works in your body. You can start a 12 week cycle on 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks then boost the dose up to 500mg. This allows the body to react to increased test levels, you will shut down on this dose probably anyway, & then the increased dose will give you added stimulis & consolidate the cycle. Work in the gym should be intense & diet should be reasonably clean and high in calories. To this extent, if you are not planning to run the gear for some months, you can gradually work on your training intensity & calorie intake so that you have got a good solid base to work from when you start your cycle. You do not need proviron or hcg on a test only cycle, & you certainly dont need trenbolone.

 

[nickster#1]

Exactly. A first cycle should only consist of one compound & then subsequent cycles build on that . Otherwise there is no understanding of how each chem works in your body. You can start a 12 week cycle on 250mg for the first 3-4 weeks then boost the dose up to 500mg. This allows the body to react to increased test levels, you will shut down on this dose probably anyway, & then the increased dose will give you added stimulis & consolidate the cycle. Work in the gym should be intense & diet should be reasonably clean and high in calories. To this extent, if you are not planning to run the gear for some months, you can gradually work on your training intensity & calorie intake so that you have got a good solid base to work from when you start your cycle. You do not need proviron or hcg on a test only cycle, & you certainly dont need trenbolone.

NO TREN, but proviron will inhance a test-e cycle. or test prop, cyp, base, it dont matter, ester or nor not. Proven fact that proviron does nothing but good for a test cycle at 50 to 75 mg a day.

 

[nzrodney]

NO TREN, but proviron will inhance a test-e cycle. or test prop, cyp, base, it dont matter, ester or nor not. Proven fact that proviron does nothing but good for a test cycle at 50 to 75 mg a day.

Bro I am not saying that proviron is not a good stack with test. What I am trying to say, is that on a first cycle you do not need proviron or hcg. You need to assimulate how the vastly increased testosterone works in your body, without the complications of other chems. Man, I have been around the scene for a few years. 5 years ago no bugger even knew what Hcg was, and I bet Arnold did not use proviron on his first few cycles. The old high performers where Test,Deca & Dbol. More recently say from the early 80s you can add Insulin to that. Its only been in the last 10 years or so that the "nice" add on drugs have become popular. Dont get too comlicated on your first few cycles. Keep it simple. Add on as you see how your body goes on each compound.

 

[eddymerckx]

Bro I am not saying that proviron is not a good stack with test. What I am trying to say, is that on a first cycle you do not need proviron or hcg. You need to assimulate how the vastly increased testosterone works in your body, without the complications of other chems. Man, I have been around the scene for a few years. 5 years ago no bugger even knew what Hcg was, and I bet Arnold did not use proviron on his first few cycles. The old high performers where Test,Deca & Dbol. More recently say from the early 80s you can add Insulin to that. Its only been in the last 10 years or so that the "nice" add on drugs have become popular. Dont get too comlicated on your first few cycles. Keep it simple. Add on as you see how your body goes on each compound.

rod the voice of reason.

 

[*The_West*]

Bro I am not saying that proviron is not a good stack with test. What I am trying to say, is that on a first cycle you do not need proviron or hcg. You need to assimulate how the vastly increased testosterone works in your body, without the complications of other chems. Man, I have been around the scene for a few years. 5 years ago no bugger even knew what Hcg was, and I bet Arnold did not use proviron on his first few cycles. The old high performers where Test,Deca & Dbol. More recently say from the early 80s you can add Insulin to that. Its only been in the last 10 years or so that the "nice" add on drugs have become popular. Dont get too comlicated on your first few cycles. Keep it simple. Add on as you see how your body goes on each compound.

i know, but we DO have it now, so why not use it? its not complicating anything, id still rather play it safe and use hcg. i know il be using a super low dose, but il still be a young guy when i do it, i got to keep my balls in order!