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IT'S HOW I PICTURED IT. SEEMS BIASED, BUT I STILL SUPPORT THE ACTIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT.

THOSE ARE SOME MESSED UP PEOPLE!
 
Just because they are "messed up" doesn't mean they are not entitled to their Constitutional rights, such as the 2nd amendment to bear arms. Furthemore, the man in question was not paying federal taxes. Guess what? The US Constitution states that the federal governmetn shall make no provision or institution for the collection of federal income tax.....thus, the IRS is an illegal construct, as per the US CONSTITUTION, of which it overrides any federal government action or policy that dictates that federal income tax should be collected.
 
distanced said:
full auto rifles, sawed of shot guns, explosives and the murder of 12 people are not constitutional rights!

YES THEY ARE!!! THE 2nd amendment never stated what types of firearms that US Citizens would be limited to. It was only after the federal government, about 10 years ago, violated the US Constitution by banning automatic weapons. The 2nd amendment also allows for the formation of militias. How the hell are US citizens supposed to form a formidable militia if they can't own automatic or semi-automatic weapons, let alone other weaponry? The US government has purposely violated the 2nd amendment in order to rid Americans of their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, as well as form militias. The federal government wants total and complete domination over the people. But since you are a Marine, god forbid an employee of the federal government would listen to reason---as well as actually read the very same US Constitution that he was sworn to uphold and protect.

P.S.---The federal government is scared shitless of US citizens being able to form a formidable militia, because then it would keep their asses' in check, such as keeping them from creating such nonsense as the Patriot Act, which is being used to destroy even more Constitutional rights under the disguise of fighting terrorism.
 
HULKSTER said:
The US Constitution states that the federal governmetn shall make no provision or institution for the collection of federal income tax.....thus, the IRS is an illegal construct, as per the US CONSTITUTION, of which it overrides any federal government action or policy that dictates that federal income tax should be collected.

Not to be disrepectful, but you ought to better acquaint yourself with the US Constitution (specifically the 16th Amendment) before making claims like this.

Predicting your response...an amendment supercedes the original document.
 
HULKSTER said:


YES THEY ARE!!! THE 2nd amendment never stated what types of firearms that US Citizens would be limited to. It was only after the federal government, about 10 years ago, violated the US Constitution by banning automatic weapons. The 2nd amendment also allows for the formation of militias. How the hell are US citizens supposed to form a formidable militia if they can't own automatic or semi-automatic weapons, let alone other weaponry? The US government has purposely violated the 2nd amendment in order to rid Americans of their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, as well as form militias. The federal government wants total and complete domination over the people. But since you are a Marine, god forbid an employee of the federal government would listen to reason---as well as actually read the very same US Constitution that he was sworn to uphold and protect.

P.S.---The federal government is scared shitless of US citizens being able to form a formidable militia, because then it would keep their asses' in check, such as keeping them from creating such nonsense as the Patriot Act, which is being used to destroy even more Constitutional rights under the disguise of fighting terrorism.

I do, however, agree very much with your support of American's right to bear arms...
 
JibbyJabba said:


Not to be disrepectful, but you ought to better acquaint yourself with the US Constitution (specifically the 16th Amendment) before making claims like this.

Predicting your response...an amendment supercedes the original document.

However, the Amendment clause states that any amendment will not be abused by the federal government to oppress the people.
 
sure hulkster, so why don't we allow everyone to commit murder and own rpgs, wmd, sams, and aa guns, that would be great asshole
 
HULKSTER said:


YES THEY ARE!!! THE 2nd amendment never stated what types of firearms that US Citizens would be limited to. It was only after the federal government, about 10 years ago, violated the US Constitution by banning automatic weapons. The 2nd amendment also allows for the formation of militias. How the hell are US citizens supposed to form a formidable militia if they can't own automatic or semi-automatic weapons, let alone other weaponry? The US government has purposely violated the 2nd amendment in order to rid Americans of their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, as well as form militias. The federal government wants total and complete domination over the people. But since you are a Marine, god forbid an employee of the federal government would listen to reason---as well as actually read the very same US Constitution that he was sworn to uphold and protect.

P.S.---The federal government is scared shitless of US citizens being able to form a formidable militia, because then it would keep their asses' in check, such as keeping them from creating such nonsense as the Patriot Act, which is being used to destroy even more Constitutional rights under the disguise of fighting terrorism.

Honestly...not to disrespect the Constitution or anything...but the second amendmant is a fucking outdated piece of bullshit that people use to their advantage. The right to form militias?!?!?! This was written back in the day, when there would actually be a reason to form militias and carry firearms. Not for people in 2003 to carry full auto rifles, sawed of shot guns, explosives and murder 12 people.

It pisses me off when people bring up the 2nd amendmant.
 
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