Ross, important question for you!

[79steeler]

Broke dick. LOL

 

[jnef]

well, this is my take on it....practically every AAS compound one could run is going to shut down natural test, so it's important to at LEAST supply exogenously the amount of test the body would be making naturally. Something like tren or masteron is not a substitute for what test can do. Of course, most people run much higher dosages of test than the body "needs", simply for it's anabolic/androgenic benefits.

Test has a host of other benefits besides ensuring against ED... if you were deficient in natural test, then you'd know what I'm talking about (lethargy, lack of focus, lipids would be off, overall health and sense of well-being would decrease).

so would running just 200mgs week keep my body "regular" while say running 100mg para/100mg mast ed

 

[njmuscleguy]

so would running just 200mgs week keep my body "regular" while say running 100mg para/100mg mast ed

ABSOLUTELY! In fact, HRT (hormone replacement therapy) dosage of test in most cases is 100-150mg per week. So if you're taking 150-200mg, then you're definitely ensuring that you're supplying what your body would be making naturally (that is, if you're healthy and have no hormonal deficiencies).

Over the years, dosages of *all* AAS have drastically increased... people think that you need alot more in order to get any kind of results. Simply not true. You can still get great results at lower, more modest dosages provided your training and diet are in check.

 

[jnef]

ABSOLUTELY! In fact, HRT (hormone replacement therapy) dosage of test in most cases is 100-150mg per week. So if you're taking 150-200mg, then you're definitely ensuring that you're supplying what your body would be making naturally (that is, if you're healthy and have no hormonal deficiencies).

Over the years, dosages of *all* AAS have drastically increased... people think that you need alot more in order to get any kind of results. Simply not true. You can still get great results at lower, more modest dosages provided your training and diet are in check.

thanks for the answer

so heres my next question. why is always said "run test higher then the other aas" if 200 will keep me "normal" why bother bumping it above the other aas?

 

[Ross]

hey ross...whay is it so important to run test in every cycle? aside from ed being the obvious.

If one was to run something along the lines of mast/tren/halo what would be the downfall?

Great question, let's adress the "Testosterone Myth".

Testosterone is frequently used as the BASE of all steroid cycles, providing an equal amount of anabolic and androgenic support throughout the duration of the cycle. Testosterone does not have to be the base of every cycle, but it SHOULD be the base of almost every cycle, and for several very important reasons:

First of all, Testosterone maintains a good mood, a strong libido, and healthy levels of energy. Failure to utilize Testosterone will result in a decreased libido, level of energy and quality of mood. This is because the body has ceased all(or most) endogenous(natural) testosterone production, as the HPTA is inhibited.

Secondly, Testosterone is SYNERGISTIC. Adding even a MINIMAL dosage of Testosterone to ANY cycle will completely enhance the effects. For most cycles, adding Testosterone is a no-brainer.

However, one can still run a very successful cycle without Testosterone, by simply using Proviron or Masteron as an androgenic replacement. Proviron and Masteron will both counteract the side-effects associated with low testosterone levels, by adding a distinct and powerful androgenic component to your cycle. For example, one could run Trenbolone/Masteron/Proviron or Deca/Dianabol/Proviron and still maintain a healthy libido without Testosterone.

Here are some NON-Test cycles:

BULKING

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-8: Proviron, 50mgs
Weeks 1-8: Tren A, 100mgs EOD

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Deca, 400mgs
Weeks 1-10: Proviron, 50mgs ED
Weeks 8-14: Winstrol, 50mgs ED

CUTTING

Weeks 1-8: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-8: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-8: Winstrol Inject, 50mgs EOD

Weeks 1-10: Primobolan
Weeks 1-10: Proviron, 50mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Turinabol, 50mgs ED

 

[Ross]

thanks for the answer

so heres my next question. why is always said "run test higher then the other aas" if 200 will keep me "normal" why bother bumping it above the other aas?

Complete nonsense.

 

[jnef]

Great question, let's adress the "Testosterone Myth".

Testosterone is frequently used as the BASE of all steroid cycles, providing an equal amount of anabolic and androgenic support throughout the duration of the cycle. Testosterone does not have to be the base of every cycle, but it SHOULD be the base of almost every cycle, and for several very important reasons:

First of all, Testosterone maintains a good mood, a strong libido, and healthy levels of energy. Failure to utilize Testosterone will result in a decreased libido, level of energy and quality of mood. This is because the body has ceased all(or most) endogenous(natural) testosterone production, as the HPTA is inhibited.

Secondly, Testosterone is SYNERGISTIC. Adding even a MINIMAL dosage of Testosterone to ANY cycle will completely enhance the effects. For most cycles, adding Testosterone is a no-brainer.

However, one can still run a very successful cycle without Testosterone, by simply using Proviron or Masteron as an androgenic replacement. Proviron and Masteron will both counteract the side-effects associated with low testosterone levels, by adding a distinct and powerful androgenic component to your cycle. For example, one could run Trenbolone/Masteron/Proviron or Deca/Dianabol/Proviron and still maintain a healthy libido without Testosterone.

Here are some NON-Test cycles:

BULKING

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-8: Proviron, 50mgs
Weeks 1-8: Tren A, 100mgs EOD

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Deca, 400mgs
Weeks 1-10: Proviron, 50mgs ED
Weeks 8-14: Winstrol, 50mgs ED

CUTTING

Weeks 1-8: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
Weeks 1-8: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-8: Winstrol Inject, 50mgs EOD

Weeks 1-10: Primobolan
Weeks 1-10: Proviron, 50mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Turinabol, 50mgs ED

thanks ross was wondering when you were going to chime in lol

 

[njmuscleguy]

thanks for the answer

so heres my next question. why is always said "run test higher then the other aas" if 200 will keep me "normal" why bother bumping it above the other aas?

Well, *they* say that because the theory is the higher dosage of test will compensate for the side effects caused by the accompanying compound... deca is a classic case... deca causes libido issues, so people recommend running a higher dosage of test than deca to deal with the "deca dick" issue... I can't really prove or disprove if it's absolutely necessary to do this (run higher test)... some might need it, others might not

 

[jnef]

Well, *they* say that because the theory is the higher dosage of test will compensate for the side effects caused by the accompanying compound... deca is a classic case... deca causes libido issues, so people recommend running a higher dosage of test than deca to deal with the "deca dick" issue... I can't really prove or disprove if it's absolutely necessary to do this (run higher test)... some might need it, others might not

gotcha so that goes back to the ed issue

couldnt that also be combated with keeping normal test doses and throwing in cabaser/dostinex which would also help keep the prolactin levels in reason

 

[Ross]

gotcha so that goes back to the ed issue

couldnt that also be combated with keeping normal test doses and throwing in cabaser/dostinex which would also help keep the prolactin levels in reason

It is simply fasle logic;

People assume that to counteract the 400mgs of Deca you need 400mgs of Testosterone, which is simply NOT TRUE.

200mgs of Testosterone is more than enough to keep you raging on 400mgs of Deca.